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Peter Thiel Is Now Bidding on Gawker.com (reuters.com)

An anonymous reader writes: Its official. "Venture capitalist Peter Thiel has made an offer for Gawker," reports Reuters, adding that the potential acquisition "would let him take down stories regarding his personal life that are still available on the website, and remove the scope for further litigation between him and Gawker." It was Thiel's 2016 lawsuit which bankrupted the site, prompting a Washington Post blogger to write that Thiel "killed Gawker once. Now it looks like he may kill it again."

Elsewhere the Washington Post argues the whole episode "highlighted the immense legal risk borne by news outlets already facing a precarious financial reality in the digital age." The Post's blogger describes Thiel as "a billionaire leveraging his wealth to obliterate a media outlet...as part of a personal vendetta."

Last month former Gawker staffers attempted to crowdfund the purchase and relaunch of Gawker.com as a nonprofit media organization. But their 1,496 backers only pledged $89,844, far short of the campaign's $500,000 target.

132 comments

  1. Maybe... by lloy0076 · · Score: 1, Troll

    Trump should take notice and buy all the fake news outlets...

    1. Re:Maybe... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0, Troll

      He can't afford to because he's a fake billionaire.

      And it's not 'fake news' because he's a real traitor.

    2. Re: Maybe... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Insightful

      Because you don't like him? News flash, the world does not revolve around YOU.

    3. Re:Maybe... by sabri · · Score: 2, Informative
      Back on topic now.

      It was Thiel's 2016 lawsuit which bankrupted the site,

      Now this is fake news. It was not Thiel's lawsuit. It was Terry Bollea's lawsuit.

      The quality of editing on /. is going down.

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    4. Re:Maybe... by serviscope_minor · · Score: 4, Funny

      Trump should take notice and buy all the fake news outlets...

      Breitbart and Fox?

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    5. Re: Maybe... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0, Offtopic

      News flash, the entire world has already fought countless wars trying to GET RID of tyrants who did exactly what trump is doing right now. Specifically, convincing the gullible populace that HE is the only reliable source of information. And the brainless trumpflakes who voted for that shitbag are all too happy to slurp it up, because they're too ignorant to recognize the exact same historical pattern repeating itself all over again.

      News flash #2, trumpigula is a lying son of a bitch who should be strung up like the traitor he is. He's not only a traitor to this country, he is a traitor to all of humanity.

    6. Re:Maybe... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Peter, is that you?

    7. Re:Maybe... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Informative

      That was paid for entirely by Thiel. What's your point?

    8. Re:Maybe... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Who do you think was Hogan's sugar daddy for the lawsuit?

      Also, only idiots use the term "fake news". There's no such thing. It's either news/fact or it is fiction. "Fake News" is like saying "Hot Tundra" or "Dry Ocean"

    9. Re: Maybe... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      What?

    10. Re: Maybe... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      It's TriggerSpeak, watching some CNN before reading might help.

    11. Re:Maybe... by CaptainDork · · Score: 3, Informative

      Correct:

      From TFA:

      Venture capitalist Peter Thiel has made an offer for Gawker, hoping to overcome legal hurdles and rival bidders for the online news site the billionaire helped shutter by funding litigation against it , people familiar with the matter said on Thursday.

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    12. Re:Maybe... by CaptainDork · · Score: 0

      As are your fears.

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    13. Re:Maybe... by GameboyRMH · · Score: 2

      To be fair, Thiel was paying for it, so it was kind of his.

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    14. Re: Maybe... by Hentai007 · · Score: 1, Troll

      As were yours for the 8 years you cried yourself to sleep with Obama in office. Hey remember when Fox News said Obama was going to invade Texas and take everyoneâ(TM)s guns? What ever happen with that? Fake news I guess

    15. Re: Maybe... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      Actually, fake news captures it really well. Fiction which is presented as news. Or stuff that's not news , is printed as news.

      "Teen-ager moves out of parents house, jobless, not sure how he'll make a living," can easily be fake news as he's going to college. He could also be moving to his uncle's ...

      You see variants of this all the time on slashdot.
       

    16. Re:Maybe... by sabri · · Score: 0, Troll

      Thiel was paying for it, so it was kind of his.

      Thiel sponsored indeed. I sponsor the EFF and ACLU, but that does not make their lawsuits mine.

      Blaming Thiel for Gawker's end is the same thing as blaming Trump for Hillary's loss... (and with that, back to the regular /. off-topic Trump/Hillary bashing)

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    17. Re:Maybe... by PopeRatzo · · Score: 2

      Now this is fake news. It was not Thiel's lawsuit. It was Terry Bollea's lawsuit.

      It was Peter Thiel's in the sense that Peter Thiel paid for it. Hulk Hogan couldn't have financed that lawsuit on his own.

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    18. Re:Maybe... by PopeRatzo · · Score: 1

      Trump should take notice and buy all the fake news outlets...

      Gawker wasn't fake news. In fact, Thiel sued them because they were too real.

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    19. Re:Maybe... by GameboyRMH · · Score: 4, Insightful

      If you were paying the ACLU and EFF most of the costs of pursuing specific lawsuits at your request, I'd say they're kind of your lawsuits.

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    20. Re: Maybe... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Lies! All lies!

    21. Re:Maybe... by CaptainDork · · Score: 1

      So are your ears.

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    22. Re:Maybe... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      So let's have some beers.

    23. Re:Maybe... by CaptainDork · · Score: 1

      Can't.

      I go to Cheers.

      Where everybody knows your name.

      You're AC.

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    24. Re: Maybe... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      No, you got it wrong. He went through Texas, on to Mexico and sold them guns.

    25. Re:Maybe... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      yeah except you're just wrong :+1:

    26. Re:Maybe... by Chris+Mattern · · Score: 1

      This will probably all end in tears.

    27. Re: Maybe... by drnb · · Score: 1

      As were yours for the 8 years you cried yourself to sleep with Obama in office. Hey remember when Fox News said Obama was going to invade Texas and take everyoneâ(TM)s guns? What ever happen with that? Fake news I guess

      He forgot he had golf that weekend.

    28. Re:Maybe... by drinkypoo · · Score: 1

      Gawker wasn't fake news. In fact, Thiel sued them because they were too real.

      Gawker is garbage. 99% of the posts on their entire network are bullshit clickbait ad-whoring. They can't die soon enough.

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    29. Re:Maybe... by PopeRatzo · · Score: 2

      Gawker is garbage.

      That is correct, but don't forget the stories they were sued over were completely and 100% true.

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    30. Re:Maybe... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      The quality of editing on /. is going down.

      Be careful what you wish for, we might end up with some Ex-Gawker "journalist" editing this place.
      Then again, I doubt we'd see any difference.

    31. Re:Maybe... by drinkypoo · · Score: 1

      That is correct, but don't forget the stories they were sued over were completely and 100% true.

      They could have got away with the Thiel thing. But posting those other pieces of media was completely and 100% a shit idea, and in one case it was clearly illegal.

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    32. Re: Maybe... by Hentai007 · · Score: 1

      I guesss weâ(TM)re lucky Trump is golfing enough for 10 presidents. Hey remember when Fox News said Obama was recruiting âoeurban youthâ to be his gestapo? That was both comparing him to hitler and fake news! A two-fer if you will

    33. Re:Maybe... by PopeRatzo · · Score: 1

      But posting those other pieces of media was completely and 100% a shit idea,

      Again, you are correct. It was a shit idea, though 100% true. Gawker could be called a lot of things, but "fake news" is not one of them.

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    34. Re:Maybe... by drinkypoo · · Score: 1

      Gawker could be called a lot of things, but "fake news" is not one of them.

      Fox News occasionally kicks out a real story about real things and says real things about them, but it's still fake news. Ditto Gawker.

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    35. Re:Maybe... by ravenshrike · · Score: 2, Insightful

      Yep, it was, and if Gawker weren't run by complete sociopathic morons who couldn't figure out how to keep their fucking traps shut in the middle of a courtroom the worst that would have happened is a 6-7 figure fine and having to take down and apologize for the Bollea sex tape. But when the people running Gawker do things like proudly declare they would publish child porn as newsworthy, well, they dug their own fucking grave.

    36. Re:Maybe... by KeensMustard · · Score: 1
      You're in arrears

      - Sam Malone.

    37. Re:Maybe... by CaptainDork · · Score: 1

      I'm in her ears.

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    38. Re:Maybe... by hairyfeet · · Score: 2

      Exactly nobody killed Gawker they committed suicide by acting like the grade A douchebags they were and saying shit like if they had celebrity child porn they would publish it, showing what kind of sick clickbait whores they were. Good riddance to bad rubbish.

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    39. Re: Maybe... by MoralCharacter · · Score: 1

      The construction of the wrong think concentration camps should be starting pretty soon.

    40. Re:Maybe... by MoralCharacter · · Score: 1

      Honestly it probably wasn't even necessary since Gawker decided to go ahead and assert that not only were they happy to ignore court orders, they said they would post child sextapes if they felt it was newsworthy enough.
      Who needs a billionaire backing you when the defendant is working so hard to earn the death penalty on it's own.
      The death of Gawker was not that of a valiant news network, it was the just end of a sub-grade tabloid who'd post anything for a quick buck in ad revenue and had flaunted the law one to many times.

    41. Re:Maybe... by Shirley+Marquez · · Score: 1

      Everybody wants to rule the world. https://www.youtube.com/watch?...

    42. Re:Maybe... by CaptainDork · · Score: 1

      Everybody ...

      You know that includes newborns and kids under a year old, right?

      Those typically want a tit.

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  2. Consequences? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0, Flamebait

    Leftists are fond of saying how you're free to say what you want but you're not free from the consequences, you know, punch a nazi and all.

    1. Re:Consequences? by Hal_Porter · · Score: 3, Informative

      Yeah, it turns out running this story was not a good idea

      http://gawker.com/a-judge-told...

      Who'd have thought that contempt of court could turn the judiciary against you and get you nailed for crippling damages when someone whose privacy your tabloid bullshit has violated sues you?

      https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/...

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    2. Re:Consequences? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      We would have gotten aware with it, if it weren't for that meddling Rule of Law!

  3. Good by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Yellow journos epic failure is not a bad thing.

    1. Re:Good by alvinrod · · Score: 1

      The Gawker name might be dead, but you're a fool if you think they already haven't been replaced by a different outfit of the same style under a new name. You can say that when it comes down to it, not many people are actually willing to put down their own money to pay for Gawker, but there are loads who are willing to give it their attention and Gawker made plenty of money from showing ads to that captive audience over the years.

      This is a failure of one particular entity. I suspect that total viewership for yellow journalism as a whole hasn't budged a bit, and as long as there is consumer demand for something, other people are going to strive to fulfill that demand.

    2. Re:Good by Hal_Porter · · Score: 1

      I bet whoever steps in to replace Gawker will realise if a judge orders them to take down sex tape, they either comply or get bankrupted when the person in the sex tape sues.

      Funnily enough when people refused to take down Jennifer Lawrence's leaked nudes Jezebel denounced them, even though they'd previously drawn everyone's attention to the leak. Jezebel was owned by Gawker media. Meanwhile Gawker decided to keeping up a leaked sex tape of Hulk Hogan in defiance of a court order was the hill they'd die on. Quite literally - Hogan sued them and that ended Gawker.

      https://i.imgur.com/CQ5qgvu.jp...

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    3. Re: Good by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      Quite probable other "news" sites had replaced Gawker, but their punishment is still useful pour encourager les autres.

    4. Re: Good by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      You should move to China since you hate freedom so much you cunt. Yould fit in great there licking boots, and Im sure youll love the freedom of their toxic air and polluted landscape.

  4. Eventually Peter Thiel will end up owning by Hal_Porter · · Score: 1

    Nick Denton.

    And I don't mean in a metaphorical sense either. He'll have him serving drinks to Trump in a MAGA hat when Trump comes to visit.

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    1. Re:Eventually Peter Thiel will end up owning by serviscope_minor · · Score: 1

      And I don't mean in a metaphorical sense either. He'll have him serving drinks to Trump in a MAGA hat when Trump comes to visit.

      You'd like that wouldn't you?

      As a generally progression to a free democracy, indentured servitude, debt slavery have all been abolished. What's amazing is the number of people who seem to want to destroy the principles that they society they claim to revere is based on.

      Fortunately for now Nick Denton could alwas plead the 13th.

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    2. Re:Eventually Peter Thiel will end up owning by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Thiel is a turd burgler.

      It's going to be worse than that. No lube, pillow biting expected.

    3. Re:Eventually Peter Thiel will end up owning by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Slavery is still allowed if it is part of a legal punishment. This is why forced labor or community service are legal punishments.

      Still, a pretty unlikely scenario. I don't think I'd want to take drinks from Denton anyway. God knows what he'd try to slip in to them.

    4. Re:Eventually Peter Thiel will end up owning by Hal_Porter · · Score: 1

      Peter Thiel is an agent of the God Emperor, a Gandalf to Trump's Eru Ilúvatar.

      In this analogy Nick Denton would be Saruman type figure.

      https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/...

      Patrick Curry says Tolkien is "hostile to industrialism", linking this to the widespread urban development that took place in the West Midlands where Tolkien grew up in the first decades of the 20th century. He identifies Saruman as one of the key examples given in the book of the evil effects of industrialization, and by extension imperialism. Shippey notes that Saruman's name repeats this view of technology: in the Mercian dialect of Anglo-Saxon used by Tolkien to represent the Language of Rohan in the book, the root word searu means "clever", "skillful" or "ingenious" and has associations with both technology and treachery that are fitting for Tolkien's portrayal of Saruman, the "cunning man". He also writes of Saruman's distinctively modern association with Communism in the way the Shire is run under his control: goods are taken "for fair distribution" which, since they are mainly never seen again, Shippey terms an unusually modern piece of hypocrisy in the way evil presents itself in Middle-earth.

      It seems to me that Denton, as Democrat and city dweller has much on common with Saruman.

      Also if you read Emily Gould's piece it's striking how the Gawker people all seem to betray their friends.

      https://www.theguardian.com/me...

      Not surprisingly Gould has often found herself alienating the people who are closest to her. A former boyfriend went public in the New York Post, penning a critical piece about the way she published details of their relationship on her secret(ish) blog, Heartbreak Soup. After her memoir, And the Heart Says Whatever, was published in 2010, her family, stung by the way she characterised her parents' relationship, stopped talking to her for a time. Even her best friend, Ruth Curry, took umbrage at the depiction of Bev, one of the two central characters in her recently published debut novel, Friendship (they are still close, but Gould says that Curry trusts her less).

      Emily Gould was the Gawker Orcer who was sent out to explain the indefensible Gawker Stalker on Jimmy Kimmel and got shredded.

      Emily Gould isn't doing that well now - she left Gawker "exhausted by the emotional comeuppance of 'being shady, insulting and two-faced'" and now complains she's only making $17,000 a year.

      I.e. all these NYC leftists seem to hate each other. It's this sort lack of lack of discipline and team solidarity that led to Saruman's downfall at the hands of Grima Wormtongue after he tried to blame him for the damage done to The Shire.

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    5. Re:Eventually Peter Thiel will end up owning by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Hal Porter is an unimaginative faggot apologist tapdancing in any story.

    6. Re:Eventually Peter Thiel will end up owning by Shadow+of+Eternity · · Score: 1

      Funny I remember you absolutely stark fucking raving over the fappening leaks but when people you like post leaked pornography of a famous man suddenly it's the end of democracy as we know it when they face consequences for their actions. Once again Serviscope you prove yourself a hypocritical sexist.

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    7. Re:Eventually Peter Thiel will end up owning by serviscope_minor · · Score: 1

      I.e. all these NYC leftists seem to hate each other. It's this sort lack of lack of discipline and team solidarity

      Or, you know, the other explanation is that there is no global conspiracy of leftists and the "team" is entirely in your mind.

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    8. Re:Eventually Peter Thiel will end up owning by serviscope_minor · · Score: 1

      Funny I remember you absolutely stark fucking raving over the fappening leaks but when people you like post leaked pornography of a famous man suddenly it's the end of democracy as we know it when they face consequences for their actions.

      Huh, OK so you have come out and stated you do support the repeal of the 13th amendment. That is the only logical conclusion given the post of mine that you responded to.

      nce again Serviscope you prove yourself a hypocritical sexist.

      You know "sexist" is a word that means something. It's not simply a generic insult, like "fuckwit".

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    9. Re:Eventually Peter Thiel will end up owning by Hal_Porter · · Score: 2

      I just assumed you guys were better organised. Personally I have a phone conference every day for the Vast Righwing Conspiracy. So Vladimir Putin gives a report on his international electoral outreach operations. Whoever is in charge of Fox News that week explains how they're reforming that narrative. The Koch Brothers explain how they're funding right wing think tanks. James O'Keefe talks about how he sows mistrust in the public mind when it comes CNN/WashPo/NYT etc. We all have a chat about talking points and so on.

      I just figured out it was the same for you guys.

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    10. Re:Eventually Peter Thiel will end up owning by Shadow+of+Eternity · · Score: 1

      Sorry what was that? I couldn't hear you over the sound of you once again loudly proving that in reality you and feminism stand for the exact opposite of all the values you loudly claim to stand for and are really just a hypocritical sexist bigot hiding behind rhetoric about "equality".

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  5. Spin spin spin by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    It was Thiel's 2016 lawsuit which bankrupted the site

    No, it was the illegal activities which resulted in a rather large fine which bankrupted the site.

    1. Re:Spin spin spin by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      And here I thought he was pissed because they outed him as gay?

    2. Re:Spin spin spin by ArchieBunker · · Score: 5, Insightful

      Gawker violated a court order. That was the cause of their downfall. Gawker outed Thiel as a homosexual and claimed the Hogan sex tape was public interest. Meanwhile they claimed viewing photos of Jennifer Lawrence nude was the equivalent of sexual assault. The head of Gawker told a jude he would publish nude photos of a four year old if it was in the public interest. Gawker deserved everything they brought upon themselves.

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    3. Re: Spin spin spin by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Actually, it was Gawker publishing a sex tape annd refusing a court order to take it down. The other dirt against Hogan came out only after more than a year after the original publication, and Gawker itself argued it wasn't the cause or justification for that publication.

    4. Re:Spin spin spin by CaptainDork · · Score: 1

      Hey, Jude ...

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    5. Re:Spin spin spin by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      All true.

      Thiel is also a disgusting, degenerate piece of shit that the world would be better without.

      None of these things are mutually exclusive.

  6. TRUMP LAUNCHES ATTACK! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Hawaii suffers missile strike!

    1. Re:TRUMP LAUNCHES ATTACK! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0


      NEVER MIND
      Twas Fancy Bear

    2. Re:TRUMP LAUNCHES ATTACK! by CaptainDork · · Score: 1

      *surfers

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  7. Hypocritical much? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    "The Post's blogger describes Thiel as "a billionaire leveraging his wealth to obliterate a media outlet...as part of a personal vendetta."

    I forget - who OWNS the Washington Post again and what paper of note made fawning statements about Amazon just recently?

  8. Suicide by proxy by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    The people behind Gawker killed Gawker, but as usual in leftist circles, their own fuckups are always someone else's fault.

    1. Re:Suicide by proxy by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Without your username I can't use this post to taunt you next time there is a republican/trump scandal.

    2. Re:Suicide by proxy by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I call BS. I heard the lefties at Gawker were exceptionally sneaky and the alt-right forces had a long bitter battle to outsmart them, but in the end the Alt-Right prevailed. Why you trying to take that away from them?

  9. Nope. by aepervius · · Score: 5, Insightful

    "highlighted the immense legal risk borne by news outlets already facing a precarious financial reality in the digital age."
    No it highlights that contrary to what shithead blogposter thimk (gawker people are not what I would call journalist or even news) privacy protection DOES exists even in the US and the web is not a free post-it-all-for-money, there are consequences. Gawker be damned they earned their happenstance.

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    1. Re:Nope. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      No, no, I've had many Trump supporters lambast me over my dismissal of gawker as not a news site. They assure me not only was gawker a news site, gawker was the #1 most influence of all news sites in the world and my lack of knowing this made me tremendously stupid, bigly time. And since Gawker was killed because it was fake news all other news sites with the exception of Faux, BB, and DStormer must similarly be shutdown. They are very stable geniuses they tell me.

  10. No, he's a gay Republican by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0, Informative

    Being a Republican is apparently a crime now.

    How DARE a gay person wander off the Democrat thought plantation!

    1. Re:No, he's a gay Republican by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      No, it's more like gay men have gone down the 'progressive stack' and now are closer to being literally hitler.

  11. Learn to Code by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    These overpaid bloggers should just learn to code.

  12. Gawk would not remove pictures of a rape by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Insightful

    Gawker refused to remove pictures of a woman being raped when asked to. There are limits to free speech: We do not allow revenge porn, we do not allow sites like Gawker which have no respect for people's privacy or feelings. Gawker was the site with a writer who ruined a woman for posting an insensitive but harmless joke on Twitter.

    Good riddance to bad rubbish.
     

    1. Re:Gawk would not remove pictures of a rape by Hal_Porter · · Score: 4, Informative

      https://nypost.com/2016/03/11/...

      Jurors at Hulk Hogan's invasion-of-privacy trial heard Friday how former top Gawker editor Albert "A.J." Daulerio - who put the infamous Hogan sex tape online - also posted video of the young woman engaged in sex in a bathroom stall at a Bloomington, Ind., sports bar in May 2010.

      Days later, the woman wrote Gawker, begging that the video be taken down from its sports-themed Deadspin Website, according to e-mails read in court by Hogan lawyer Shane Vogt.

      "I am the girl in it and it was stolen from me and put up without my permission," the unidentified woman wrote on May 11, 2010.

      Gawker's complaint department forwarded the message to Daulerio, along with a note saying, "Blah, blah, blah," Vogt said.

      Daulerio then e-mailed the woman and told her to "not make a big deal out of this," adding: "I'm sure it's embarrassing but these things do pass, keep your head up."

      Then-company lawyer Gaby Darbyshire also e-mailed the woman, defending the video as "completely newsworthy" and scolding her about how "one's actions can have unintended consequences."

      But Gawker reversed itself the next day and removed the entire posting, with Daulerio later admitting to GQ magazine he had regrets because the video "wasn't funny" and "was possibly rape."

      Three women and one man on the six-member jury scribbled notes about the e-mail exchanges, with the man sternly peering over his glasses at Daulerio, 41, a co-defendant in the Hogan case.

      An expert witness appearing for Hogan also testified that Gawker boosted its corporate value as much as $15.5 million by posting the hidden-camera sex recording of the pro wrestling legend.

      Jeff Anderson, director of valuation and analytics at Consor Intellectual Asset Management, said 5.4 million people viewed the Hogan tape at Gawker between October 2012 and April 2013, resulting in a 28.5 percent spike in traffic to the site.

      Awful people. And look at Daulerio's expression in the picture - he knows both he and his employer are screwed.

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    2. Re:Gawk would not remove pictures of a rape by GameboyRMH · · Score: 2, Informative

      Gawker was the site with a writer who ruined a woman for posting an insensitive but harmless joke on Twitter [nytimes.com].

      Gawker is a trash rag but none of their writers made that woman write a racist joke through an account tied to her real name. She deserved any consequences she happened to attract.

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    3. Re:Gawk would not remove pictures of a rape by Baloroth · · Score: 0

      Gawker is a trash rag but none of their writers made that woman write a racist joke through an account tied to her real name. She deserved any consequences she happened to attract.

      That's right, anytime anyone makes a single mistake, they definitely deserve to have their lives ruined. Second chances? Benefit of the doubt? Nah, signaling your virtue to the world by calling out a stupid tweet is true justice! /s

      I'm not defending racism (or that tweet, which I don't think is racist but is certainly borderline), but the idea that we can (and should) ruin someone's life over a single stupid and harmless thing they said or did is really, really stupid, and really, really shortsighted (unless you're going to claim that you've literally never said or done a single stupid thing, in which case I don't believe you).

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  13. Interesting... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    So, theoretically, what would I have to write about Peter Thiel, for him to offer to buy my blog for millions of dollars?

    Annoying the rich could be a bigger cottage industry than bitcoin. It would certainly be more fun.

  14. Gawker by 110010001000 · · Score: 1

    Whenever someone mentions Gawker I think of hipsters browsing the web on their Mac's with their ironic beards.

    1. Re:Gawker by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      That's funny, because i often get that image when people mention Peter Thiel.

      Oh wait no, it's the Countess Bathory i think of. Easy to get those concepts mixed up.

      No Pete, that's not Gawker's fault.

  15. Good by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Soon the destruction of online "news" will be complete. Gossip rags that violate the law should be punished.

    Next up social media. Their execs should be imprisoned.

  16. Buy Gawker, Sue Gawker Employees/Board/Officers by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Actually, Thiel will buy Gawker, reorganize the company to make himself king, extend a complete legal release to himself, take down all offensive content, and then... he will have Gawker start suing every former employee/board member/officer that had anything to do with the offensive content for a wide range of breaches of fiduciary duties.

    1. Re:Buy Gawker, Sue Gawker Employees/Board/Officers by jcr · · Score: 1

      That's an interesting idea. It's not like there's much money to be recovered, but those people certainly deserve to have seven-figure judgements hanging over their heads for the rest of their lives.

      -jcr

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  17. time to backup some articles... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    relating to Peter Thiel on gawker....

  18. A Modern American Hero! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Fuck Thiel right in his cunt face.

  19. I've got Karma to burn by rsilvergun · · Score: 5, Insightful

    so here I go again defending Gawker. Gawker did a lot of real journalism and used the muck raking to pay for it. A tradition that's as old as journalism itself. Thiel didn't shut them down because he was outed as gay, he shut them down because they kept reporting on his shady business deals. And their mistake wasn't ignoring the court order. That gets done all the time in their line of work. Their mistake was not realizing that Hogan was backed by Thiel for the express purpose of shutting them down.

    What we have here is a pretty scary precedent. We have a billionaire using his money and the legal system to shut down somebody critical of him. If anyone honestly believes that'll end well for us working stiffs then they haven't been paying attention to the last 300 years of labor relations...

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    1. Re:I've got Karma to burn by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      Precisely.

    2. Re:I've got Karma to burn by The+Cynical+Critic · · Score: 2, Insightful

      Thiel didn't shut them down because he was outed as gay, he shut them down because they kept reporting on his shady business deals.

      I see the tin foil hat brigade has arrived... In all seriousness, what really sparked Thiel's animosity towards Gawker was how they outed Thiel when they knew he was working with investors from countries with a less-than-positive view of gay people (Saudi Arabia even has the death sentence for gay people) and did so after Thiel had personally asked Nick Denton to not out him as gay. It's hard to figure out a more legitimate reason for someone to hold a grudge.

      However what really killed Gawker was how they not only published something they knew had been filmed in private without the knowledge or permission of all the participants, did so knowing that said unwilling participant had expressed his clear disproval towards publishing the video and when a judge told them to take it down, they flat out refused and posted more articles based on that video.

      You may not like this, but the reality is that the freedom of the press is not something that allows the media to do whatever they want and publish whatever they want to publish. All Thiel really did here was level the playing field as Terry Bollea would simply not have been able to afford anything like the kind of legal help Gawker was able to afford on his own after the tapes killed whatever was left of his career.

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    3. Re:I've got Karma to burn by AmiMoJo · · Score: 1

      Bingo. In a fair system everyone would have equal redress against bad journalism. In practice rich people can afford to destroy organizations giving them bad press or exposing their misdeeds.

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    4. Re: I've got Karma to burn by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Precisely wrong.

    5. Re:I've got Karma to burn by rtb61 · · Score: 1

      Only in the USA and other countries with third world legal systems. In other countries where loser pays ie the loser in a civil suit pays the winners court costs based upon recognised rates (no legal fee inflation). So far less likely to play games with lawyers and courts. Of course the US legal system is also really corrupt, where by certain cases are tried in certain locations, where judges have a known bias and also in location where they are elected by campaign donations from companies likely to trigger litigation by the exploitative behaviour. Note all the legal games in the US vs other countries with loser pay laws, civil suits for psychological harassment using the legal, you can get sued to attempting to sue someone just to harass them (no ability or intention to win, just harass them via the court) and face criminal penalties for abusing the civil legal system.

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    6. Re:I've got Karma to burn by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      > ...and used the muck raking to pay for it.

      That's not what that word means.

      https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Muckraker&oldid=815866521

      You either meant "clickbait" or something along the lines of "tabloid trash".

    7. Re:I've got Karma to burn by thegarbz · · Score: 1

      The billionaire can't shutdown someone who isn't doing something to violate the laws. Regardless of how you paint this as a David and Golliath issue, the fact is that David left himself open as heck. Just because someone is a celebrity doesn't mean the entire world is entitled to a breach of their privacy. That is what got them, not the fact that the other person was a billionaire.

      Just because muck raking is tradition doesn't mean it should continue, and doesn't mean it should be exempt from laws. And based on the comments during the lawsuit Gawker deserves to not exist, despite the fact that there was good journalism mixed in with their screwed up practices.

    8. Re:I've got Karma to burn by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      What we have here is a pretty scary precedent

      I would say the bad precedent is your arguments used to defend Gawker

      Gawker did a lot of real journalism and used the muck raking to pay for it.

      In other words, you're saying companies YOU LIKE can act underhandedly and perhaps unethically and immorally, to the point of defying court orders, because they spend their ill-gotten money on things YOU LIKE

      Meanwhile, if a rich guy spends money on things you DON'T like, that's unacceptable even though the things you don't like aren't breaking any laws (AFAIK)

      A tradition that's as old as journalism itself.

      Another bad precedent you're setting here. "It's always been this way" is no excuse. You know what else has "always been like this"? Patriarchy, racism, homophobia, etc.

      We have a billionaire using his money and the legal system to shut down somebody critical of him.

      Except he was only able to shut somebody down when said somebody did something that was in direct violation of the law.

      If Gawker haven't done anything wrong, maybe Thiel wouldn't have had anything to nail them with. Don't blame Thiel for Gawker being lawbreakers.

    9. Re:I've got Karma to burn by RedK · · Score: 1

      In practice rich people can afford to destroy organizations giving them bad press or exposing their misdeeds.

      Pretty homophobic of you saying "being gay" is a "misdeed". Because that's what Gawker exposed about Thiel. But I guess homophobia is OK if it's against conservatives right ?

      The fact is, and you and the "anti-anything-conservative" crowd might not like it, Gawker destroyed Gawker. It was a shitty blog, like Buzzfeed "news" is. There was no journalism there, it was a clickbait farm out to get ad revenue by using naive leftists wanting confirmation bias, and "Conservative takedowns". And it was working until someone got the courts to intervene and enforce the law.

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  20. Merits of case had nothing to do with Thiel by drnb · · Score: 1

    To be fair, Thiel was paying for it, so it was kind of his.

    Not really. The case was decided on the actions of Gawker and Bollea, decided on the merits of the case. Thiel's funding does not change the underlying facts. That's why the case is Bollea's. All you can really argue is that Thiel allowed Bollea to have good representation and make a good case and see things to the end.

    Having an agenda, shopping around looking for a person to make your case upon, that happens all the time. Environmental activists do it, civil rights activist do it, ... but the case is always the selected person's, not the organization that funds it.

    1. Re:Merits of case had nothing to do with Thiel by GameboyRMH · · Score: 3, Informative

      All you can really argue is that Thiel allowed Bollea to have good representation and make a good case and see things to the end.

      I would argue that Thiel's patronage altered the proceedings of the case, turning down settlements and dragging out the trial as long as possible to bleed Gawker dry.

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    2. Re:Merits of case had nothing to do with Thiel by drnb · · Score: 0

      All you can really argue is that Thiel allowed Bollea to have good representation and make a good case and see things to the end.

      I would argue that Thiel's patronage altered the proceedings of the case, turning down settlements and dragging out the trial as long as possible to bleed Gawker dry.

      Not really. Gawker was bankrupted by the judgement not the case. And aren't you really arguing that without Thiel Gawker could have bled Bollea dry and forced him to settle, not letting the case be denied on its merits? Theil allowed to care to proceed, neither side bled dry, and a verdict based on the merits rendered.

    3. Re:Merits of case had nothing to do with Thiel by GameboyRMH · · Score: 1

      I'm really arguing that Bollea might've preferred to settle if not for Thiel's meddling.

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    4. Re:Merits of case had nothing to do with Thiel by drnb · · Score: 0

      I'm really arguing that Bollea might've preferred to settle if not for Thiel's meddling.

      I'm arguing that Bollea might have been forced to settle due to uncertainty or cost without Thiel's meddling, despite having the legally stronger case. That is not a decision on the merits. Theil has nothing to do with the facts or merits of the case, that is why the case is not "his". If anything he supported justice in the sense that a case was decided on the merits rather than one side running out of money first. That his motives were impure does not change this fact.

  21. For the sake of us who are new here... "Who?" by Pezbian · · Score: 1

    Who is he? What is his goal? Where is he doing this stuff? Why is he so pissed-off? When did he learn of the offense? How is he intending to achieve his goals?

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    1. Re:For the sake of us who are new here... "Who?" by arth1 · · Score: 1

      Who is he? What is his goal? Where is he doing this stuff? Why is he so pissed-off? When did he learn of the offense? How is he intending to achieve his goals?

      He's scum. But compared to Gawker, he's cream.
      What I want to know is whether he has a donation site where I can donate to the good cause of getting rid of the site that makes 4chan look good and reddit outright saintly.

    2. Re:For the sake of us who are new here... "Who?" by Pezbian · · Score: 1

      He's scum. But compared to Gawker, he's cream.
      What I want to know is whether he has a donation site where I can donate to the good cause of getting rid of the site that makes 4chan look good and reddit outright saintly.

      Worse than 4chan? How is that even possible?

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  22. Gawker Got what they Asked for by Jarwulf · · Score: 1

    Writers with gawker through the affiliated Jezebel regularly supported huge cash payouts for these sort of privacy invasions in the context of feminism. Among other things they wrote stories crowing over the huge multimillion dollar settlement some dizzy female sports reporter got from a hotel because a rogue employee recorded her. What's good for the goose....

  23. I'm not a conspiracy theorist by rsilvergun · · Score: 1

    I'm a conspiracy analyst.

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  24. Not about indentured servitude by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

    You'd like that wouldn't you?

    As a generally progression to a free democracy, indentured servitude, debt slavery have all been abolished.

    We'd all like it. But it wouldn't be a case of indentured servitude, it would be the courts ordering Denton lobotomized and then hit drooling husk would serve drinks for the pleasure of all he had wronged. That would be a just scenario for people like Nick Denton.

    You may want to support people who love to publicize the rapes of others and revenge porn, but the rest of us have some degree of moral fiber.

  25. Good for him. by jcr · · Score: 1

    I hope he simply deletes that shithole of a site in its entirety. Fuck Gawker, and fuck anyone who ever worked with those thieving motherfuckers in any capacity.

    -jcr

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  26. Hard to care. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    However maloderous Gawker's demise was, I have a hard time feeling much sympathy for what was, in essence, a clickbait rag. Was Peter Thiel's actions justified? No. Is he a creepy scumbag? Assuredly. Is the world worse off without Gawker? Meh.

  27. Gawker the liberal rag by p51d007 · · Score: 1, Insightful

    "Mostly" read by liberals, antifa, BLM, socialist, progressives...ie: the ones that think everything should be FREE...so, it's no wonder they didn't have any people funding a potential "relaunch". They are ok with spending OTHER peoples money, but NOT their own. "Last month former Gawker staffers attempted to crowdfund the purchase and relaunch of Gawker.com as a nonprofit media organization. But their 1,496 backers only pledged $89,844, far short of the campaign's $500,000 target."

    1. Re:Gawker the liberal rag by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      go on.... (popcorn bag opening). I'd also like to hear your enlightened opinion of the following "news" sites while you're at it
      - daily called
      - townhall
      - gateway pundit
      - fox "news"
      - brietbart
      I'm sure you'll give us a "fair and balanced" (not the phrase - it's not fairly unbalanced ... common mistake!) opinion of these sites too.

  28. You're missing the point by rsilvergun · · Score: 3, Insightful

    that kind of brazenness is par for the course. The point of these lawsuits is for both parties to get some publicity. That's why 99% of the time they're settled out of court. It's more a less a game with both sides playing. The trouble is Gawker didn't realize Hogan wasn't the one playing, Thiel was, and Thiel wasn't playing the same game, he was out for blood.

    Now, I suppose you could make the argument that our legal system shouldn't be used to this, but then again the public at large allows it because they find this kind of public theater intensely amusing; even if you and I find it stupid and wasteful. But again, that's missing the point. Gawker's real mistake was not seeing through Hogan to Thiel in time to save themselves.

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  29. You do realize what you just wrote, right? by rsilvergun · · Score: 1

    "If you're not doing anything wrong what have you got to fear?". Trust me, with several billion dollars you can put just about anyone away.

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    1. Re:You do realize what you just wrote, right? by thegarbz · · Score: 1

      Yes that is exactly what I just wrote. It is basically the fundamental principle of a "justice" system. Or do you think Hulk Hogan would have extracted a large settlement out of Gawker for NOT publishing a sex tape and NOT violating his right to privacy?

      Let me turn this around: It shouldn't be up to billionaires to hold people accountable. You should be able to be bankrupt and bring down those who violate your rights just as easily as Theil did (and the fuckwits working at Gawker really did make this very easy).