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Now Meltdown Patches Are Making Industrial Control Systems Lurch (theregister.co.uk)

Patches for the Meltdown vulnerability are causing stability issues in industrial control systems. From a report: SCADA vendor Wonderware admitted that Redmond's Meltdown patch made its Historian product wobble. "Microsoft update KB4056896 (or parallel patches for other Operating System) causes instability for Wonderware Historian and the inability to access DA/OI Servers through the SMC," an advisory on Wonderware's support site explains. Rockwell Automation revealed that the same patch had caused issues with Studio 5000, FactoryTalk View SE, and RSLinx Classic (a widely used product in the manufacturing sector). "In fairness [this] may be RPC [Remote Procedure Call] change related," said cybersecurity vulnerability manager Kevin Beaumont.

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  1. Industrial systems should be super-simple by davidwr · · Score: 5, Insightful

    In general, simpler systems have a smaller attack footprint.

    Like the rest of the computer industry, many industrial systems are more complicated than they need to be.

    Yes, industrial equipment is simpler-by-design than your average general-purpose computer, but there are still some "because we can have it and it would be a nice thing to have, we have it" or "because we can buy an off-the-shelf chip that does things we don't need cheaper than paying the chip-vendor to disable unneeded functionality, we do" situations.

    There are probably innumerable industrial-control systems that can run their core functions "intelligence" on the equivalent of an early-1970s microprocessor or less. Perhaps they should.

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    1. Re:Industrial systems should be super-simple by gtall · · Score: 4, Insightful

      Yep, you as a control system owner can either buy (a) what's behind door number 1 that does everything you'd ever want and walks the dog when you are too tired, all for the low, low price enabled by the manufacturer selling millions, (2) what's behind door number 2 that does precisely what you want because you specified and contracted that system for your operation, all for the high, high price forced because you require a one-off.

      By the way, what's behind door number 1 comes with a volume discount so you can use it in several places in you operation. What's behind door number 2 comes with a volume discount of one because its a one-off.

      Choose wisely.

  2. Stuxnet is now crashing by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Insightful

    Now things like Stuxnet won't be able to infiltrate as easily. WTF are these things doing connected anyway, and if not connected why do they need the patches? And don't get me started on Windows...

  3. Re:VMware pulled some of their patches by El+Cubano · · Score: 3, Insightful

    I guess I should have finished my thought.

    It's not just industrial control systems, but hypervisors, and plain old systems too. It sees like this is an object lesson in how speed (in terms of releasing a fix) comes at a cost of performance/quality. I know people were all in a panic once Meltdown and Spectre became public, but this wasn't just fixing a SQL injection vulnerability in Rails or Django. This fundamentally affected the execution of nearly every instruction to go through affected CPUs.

    I suspect that the severity and publicity made a more organized roll out with extensive beta testing impossible for just about every vendor that had affected products.

  4. Toldja so... by GerryGilmore · · Score: 5, Insightful

    From the very beginning, I've tried to get everyone to pause the Panic Parade, but nnnnnooooooo. To try to address probably the most complex vulnerability yet discovered (it took over 20 YEARS for this to be found) that also requires you to already be running malware on your system, people are flashing new BIOSes, patching kernels and generally behaving like idiots. Slow FT down, folks! Let the CPU and OS experts have a real shot at minimizing the risk, without killing our production systems, FFS!!

  5. Industrial systems don't have as much spare room by plague911 · · Score: 4, Insightful

    I have never worked on industrial systems, I did work on some large scale defense equipment. One of the design considerations is cost, in order to minimize cost, you match the components spec to the semi-well defined performance need. No need on buying a V12 when a V6 will do...... Now I am not saying you don't build in some buffer, but the MASSIVE performance hit required by these patches could easily blow the given performance buffer out of the water. I could easily see how billions of dollars worth of industrial systems simply will not be able to patched due performance cost of the patches. Additionally given the age/design of the systems there is no way to conveniently upgrade the systems.

  6. The hazards of monoculture by plopez · · Score: 3, Insightful

    relying on one piece of tech is as bad as relying on one food crop.

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