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Google Moves To Debian For In-house Linux Desktop (zdnet.com)
Google has officially confirmed the company is shifting its in-house Linux desktop from the Ubuntu-based Goobuntu to a new Linux distro, the DebianTesting-based gLinux. From a report: Margarita Manterola, a Google Engineer, quietly announced Google would move from Ubuntu to Debian-testing for its desktop Linux at DebConf17 in a lightning talk. Manterola explained that Google was moving to gLinux, a rolling release based on Debian Testing. This move isn't as surprising as it first looks. Ubuntu is based on Debian. In addition, Google has long been a strong Debian supporter. In 2017, Debian credited Google for making [sic] "possible our annual conference, and directly supports the progress of Debian and Free Software." Debian Testing is the beta for the next stable version of Debian. With gLinux, that means it's based on the Debian 10 "Buster" test operating system. Google takes each Debian Testing package, rebuilds it, tests it, files and fixes bugs, and once those are resolved, integrates it into the gLinux release candidate. GLinux went into beta on Aug. 16, 2017.
Windows outhouse. The only way to support it.
and i run JEWBUNTU
The only reason to work at Google is money: otherwise it is an alt+Left trans-nationalist socialist entity with a rather dystopian vision. That they run Linux on their desktops is just poo-icing on their sh**-cake.
But for how long? Google appears to be readying its own home-grown OS, to replace Linux (and Android).
https://arstechnica.com/gadgets/2018/01/googles-fuchsia-os-on-the-pixelbook-it-works-it-actually-works/
It states that google is "fixing bugs" in the distro before rolling it out. Is Google submitting any of this back to Debian? It'd be interesting to know the involvement in development that Google has back to Debian.
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Don't they have to publish the source under GPL? (I realise that this is different from having a downloadable pre-compiled distribution, but it is still available)
I think this counts as a milestone.
Although I disapprove of ruining Linux with the "desktop" nonsense, or trying to get those to like it, who are so lazy that they get angry if they ever "have to" think or make a decision for themselves, and much prefer it to stay professional (but still graphical and discoverable, please).
I'm still counting this. In the desert, a dying man craves even a glass of ... no, I'm NOT making the joke ... NO, brain! Stop it! ... GAAH, I can't not say it! ... of ... of ... frosty piss.
Having been a big Ubuntu fan (yes, including Unity) for quite a while now, I have been severely underwhelmed by the 16.04 LTS. The thing that really gives me pause (in addition to the basic instability of what is supposed to be a stable release) is the show-stopper bugs in major projects that have gone not only un-fixed, but unaddressed for nearly two years.
Here's one (Status: confirmed / Importance: High / Assigned to: Unassigned)
https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubu...
Here's another one (Status: confirmed / Importance: High / Assigned to: Unassigned) :
https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubu...
Both of these examples are _major_ bugs in _major_ packages in the distro. And nobody has bothered to work on them, at all. This suggests to me that Ubuntu is too short on manpower to actually maintain the distro at an acceptable level.
Canonical, WTF?
I remembered "goobuntu" well when I worked at the Google IT help desk call center in 2007-08. Usually for troubleshooting network issues, setting up hostnames in DNS, installing the latest NVidia drivers and VMware images from the CLI. I'm surprised that they didn't call the Debian version "goodeb".
but Google already has written the world's most popular app platform, and it wouldn't be farfetched for them to do it again.
Then why aren't APK the current most popular way to run your word processor on your laptop ?
Part of the reason is that Google (an Apple with their AppStore - the *other* most popular app platform) didn't as much take over an existing eco-system, as they actually managed to build an entirely new eco-system and fill a void.
This void was due to the emergence of a new class of platform (specifically smartphone, the combination of former PDA and dumb phones in the same device).
At that point, the former ecosystem that existed were either to old and a bit out place, or pretty much meh to begin with. (e.g.: PalmOS was a giant success on older PDA. By the time smartphone started emerging, it was a very old platform that didn't fill the needs anymore. Even Palm Inc started to ship WinCE on their smartphones.) Or where straigh killed by mis-management (Elop at Nokia).
But despite their tremendous success on the new platform, the same ecosystem didn't manage to displace older eco-system that where still successful. No matter how much we collectively hate Windows here on /., it's still dominating the classical laptop/desktop segment, because that's what every body is used to and that what everyone has already invested into - we Linux-running people are the odd guy out.
The segment where Windows doesn't dominate are the new different segments that emerged since (Chromebooks, Smartphones, etc) where Windows didn't have any establishement to leverage.
I expect the same fate might be waiting Fuschia :
- on newer emerging segment that didn't exist before and where there aren't already well established leader, it might create its place : IoT devices, wearables, etc.
- on well established segment, the current iOS / Android will be hard to displace (Smartphone tablet). Any wannabe competitor will have to keep compatibility with them (e.g.: the various Android compatibility layer on minor smartphone OSes like Tizen, Blackberry, Sailfish OS... or failed attempt thereof: what WSL began its life as under Windows RT before being repurposed as "Bash in Windows").
Fuschia could only succeed if it basically "a different way to run android apps on your smartphone". And then being based on an entirely different kernel, it will also need to convince hardware manufacturer who have invested large amounts of know-how in Linux kernel (mainly for Android).
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when I read Margarita Manterola at first i was thinking it was an Ubuntu release name
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Ubuntu needs to die. 'nuff said.
Creimertards????
What the fuck do you mean, you disgusting fat sexist tube of lard?
There is one and only one creimertard, it is yourself; Christopher Dale Reimer! Hence, the name can't be plural. Learn to write you fucktard!
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distnended. Al7 I of OpenBSD versus
Debian wheezy (EOL May 2018) still doesn't have patches released.
Even Centos 6 has spectre/meltdown fixes available.
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I work at a corporation that has 1 Windows machine.
The rest are Linux.
We are capitalists and like making money. Linux solves most of our enterprise problems, faster, cheaper, with less hassle and fewer IT support people than other options.
From here, it appears you are completely out of touch with how non-legacy corporations work.
of course, the most important question: Does glinux use systemd?
Is this what fake news is?
Does this mean that I'll be able to have Google spy on me and track everything I do just by apt-get installing a package included in the Debian repos?
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>Fourth, your jump cut to your previous "three letter agency" video is cringe-worthy.
That is strictly prohibited. I wonder where he learned about getting yourself fired from one big revenue stream to free up time to chase thousands of tiny revenue streams during a period of homelessness.
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Fuschia can displace Android overnight if Google decide so. It is their call, their children. their control.
So, if Google snap their fingers, suddenly, all the hardware manufacturer that make embed SoCs will have stable Fuschia drivers (you know, the same manufacturer where you're still stuck with a 3.10 linux kernel, despite the current version being 4.15), all the manufacturer of boards will have all the other ancillary drivers for the rest of the chips ready too, and all the android manufacturers who takes ages to swtich between current versions of android (despite all of them being the same general Android/Linux structure) ?
Yeah... sure...
Nope.
If Google leverage their influence, they might manage to convince a certain subset of the chip manufacturer to accept keeping in mind to also write a Fuschia driver-daemon, next to linux kernel modules for the next chip that they are currently working on. (Forget about trying to persuade to shed any resources to write something for chips that they have sold)
Meaning that 1-2 years down the line, the smartphone/tablet manufacturers would have a choice of ready-to-integrate PCBs that could also offer a Fuschia deamon to assemble into a Fuschio OS, in addition to an Android Linux kernel to install Linux onto.
Meaning that within 3-4 year you would have a reasonable wave of cheap asian no-name smartphones with decent specs, available in big enough quantities that Fuschia would make a attempt at significant market share.
Until that point, you'll only be seeing "boutique" smartphone that Google can be custom making with a couple high profile tightly collaborating manufacturer.
And it will have the exact same market-wide shattering effect that Samsung's Tizen has.
(Currently, any contender that even just try to "exist" on the market and that doesn't have the same influence as Google / their own manufacturing as Samsung / bought they way (=Nokia) into it like Microsoft, can only manage to quickly reach market by harnessing the general android Linux efforts. e.g.: Jolla's Hybris being used for Jolla's own Sailfish, Canonical's former/now UBports' Ubuntu Touch, etc.)
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