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iTunes Snafu Made 'Thor: Ragnarok' Available Almost a Month Early (engadget.com)

An anonymous reader shares a report: When you check out the 'Thor: Ragnarok' page on iTunes, it says pre-orders of digital copies are expected to arrive on February 20th. But as TorrentFreak reports, some people got their hands on the Marvel film about a month early due to some sort of snafu with iTunes and Movies Anywhere. According to TorrentFreak, a Reddit user said in a now-deleted post that their legal purchase of the film on Vudu landed them an iTunes copy of it the next day. "I pre-ordered Thor Ragnarok on Vudu yesterday and it links it to my iTunes also. But curiously it showed up in my iTunes library this morning (pre-orders shouldn't). And now I can watch the full movie in HD," they wrote. "I obviously downloaded it right away. I know its supposed to come out February 20th." Others then responded that going that same purchase route made the movie available to them in iTunes as well.

46 comments

  1. who cares by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    not me

    I give zero shits

    1. Re: who cares by Hentai007 · · Score: 2

      And yet you clicked on the article...

      And posted in the comment section

    2. Re: who cares by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      And yet you clicked on the article...

      And posted in the comment section

      And yet you replied to the obvious troll...
      And leant it your karma bonus. Idiot.

  2. Typical by dos1 · · Score: 1

    iTunes is somewhat known for releasing stuff early due to mishap. Their management panel must have some poor UX, as it happens quite often with episodes of less known series.

    1. Re:Typical by tgetzoya · · Score: 4, Funny

      It's designed as planned. We're just using it wrong.

    2. Re:Typical by mccalli · · Score: 2
      What annoys me is the way they handle extras. For example, I'm currently on an iTunes Pass for The Librarians season 4. For those unfamiliar with the terminology, that means I get a new episode after it has been broadcast, so one a week.

      I've just watched episode 5. According to iTunes though, it was episode 11. That because it gives all the extras and vlog stuff its own episode number, and puts them mid-series too. Means episode 1 shows up as episode 1 the actually programme, then episode 2 is the directors stuff for episode 1. When the real episode 2 turns up, it now gets called episode 3 and the director commentary for it becomes episode 4. And so on, and so on.

      Sane might be having episode 1, then directors commentary for that on episode 101, then episode 2 and director stuff on episode 102. Best would be some non episode number way of grouping them - e.g. Episode 1 then 1.1, 1.2 etc. for each extra associated with it. Make it possible to hide those too because to be honestI rarely watch them. It's just annoying to have the real episode numbers screwed up by these things being stuck in the middle.

    3. Re:Typical by omnichad · · Score: 2

      iTunes is somewhat known for releasing stuff early due to mishap.

      Hence the correct use of the term SNAFU.

    4. Re:Typical by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      How about the time they accidentally ruined everyone's library by accidentally putting a U2 album in there. So embarrassing. I was mortified when I opened iTunes and found that there.

    5. Re:Typical by AmiMoJo · · Score: 3, Interesting

      As usual the pirate version is better quality, correctly numbered.

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    6. Re: Typical by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I still haven't been the same since.

  3. good rips too by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I was wondering why high quality rips were showing up on usenet and torrent sites before the ETA services said that it was due for release.

  4. Damage? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

    I'm sure the studio will measure the damages in the billions. And somehow blame this for their terrible year.

    1. Re:Damage? by DanielRavenNest · · Score: 1

      This film brought in $850M in worldwide box office, and beat the other Thor films by 50% domestically. At worst they lost a little home video income. It is not like the pirate audience wouldn't have downloaded it next month anyway. It just came earlier than expected.

      Normally the pirate version comes out as soon as the physical Blu-Ray disks are being distributed to stores. It only takes one person to borrow it long enough to make a copy, and it gets out. Typically this happens a week or two before the on-sale date. If digital downloads come out before that, it gets pirated even earlier.

  5. Before it was itunes... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    They advertised all albums on sale for $5 each, but inadvertently listed entire artist collections as albums. I scored entire collections at that price .I can't remember the name but Apple bought it and created itunes.

    1. Re:Before it was itunes... by omnichad · · Score: 1

      I can't remember the name but Apple bought it and created itunes.

      iTunes was created by direct agreement between publishers and Apple. Some features of iTunes (like Cover Flow) were created by other people and purchased by Apple, but both the core software and the store were built by Apple.

    2. Re:Before it was itunes... by tepples · · Score: 1

      both the core software and the store were built by Apple.

      The Store yes. But early versions of iTunes (pre-Store) were clearly a fork of SoundJam MP, whose developers Apple hired.

    3. Re:Before it was itunes... by omnichad · · Score: 1

      Sure - the relevant part is the store here. But still, looking at the screenshot on Wikipedia it really looks like most of what makes iTunes 1.0 what it was was created after the developers were hired on by Apple. Also, I'll fight you on the use of the term fork if it's the same developers refining the same software and merely discontinuing the original name.

      I only wish someone at Apple would fork iTunes 1.0 and add some modern features to it sans-bloat. It really was a great music player/library app. They should merge the app store with their music store on the desktop and make the music player just a music player again.

    4. Re:Before it was itunes... by TechyImmigrant · · Score: 2

      Is there any evidence that iTunes was actually designed?

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    5. Re:Before it was itunes... by tepples · · Score: 1

      It exists and was created by human beings.

      (That is, unless by "designed" you mean "designed well by a true Scotsman.")

  6. Yay, another superhero movie by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    How long until they load them onto your iPod for free without asking you first?

    1. Re:Yay, another superhero movie by DontBeAMoran · · Score: 2

      Thor: U2 Edition?

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  7. Wording... by WolfgangVL · · Score: 3, Insightful

    I know it's only a summary, but....

    You place blame on consumer with "Illegal purchase"

    Consumer did nothing wrong. They pre-ordered the media for viewing after release and got a pleasant surprise.

    You aught to place blame on merchant with "Illegal offering" or "illegal sale" as Amazon messed up and made the media available early after collecting the $$.

    Is that really illegal to begin with? Or is it just against some TOS somewhere? We are talking about an official distribution channel right?

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    1. Re:Wording... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      Back in the dead tree days, a bookstore selling a new release book before the release date was rather common. I'm not surprised that happens in online retail too.

    2. Re:Wording... by omnichad · · Score: 1

      If anything, it's merely a breach of contract. I don't even think this could count as a copyright distribution violation by Apple because they were licensed to distribute.

    3. Re:Wording... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      The summary doesn't even use the word 'illegal'.

    4. Re:Wording... by WolfgangVL · · Score: 1

      You're right. Apparently my brain replaces the word legal with illegal. All this time I thought I was a criminal. Turns out I'm just illiterate.

      Not sure which is better.

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    5. Re:Wording... by MatthiasF · · Score: 1

      Why are you blaming Amazon for this? Apple runs iTunes, not Amazon.

    6. Re:Wording... by ausekilis · · Score: 1

      Please oh please let the MAFIAA start fighting with Apple. I'd like to see those two 500lb gorillas fight...

    7. Re:Wording... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I think Disney should sue apple for incompetence

    8. Re:Wording... by sheramil · · Score: 1

      You're right. Apparently my brain replaces the word legal with illegal.

      Please tell me you aren't a policeman or a judge in real life.

    9. Re:Wording... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      He's an Apple zealot. The koolaid he consumes creates a reality distortion field which makes this cultist's brain swap brand names whenever Apple screw something up. It's been going on since the 8 bit micro days. Try as they might, the medical profession has yet to find a cure.

  8. Good by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Insightful

    Artificial release restrictions shoudn't exist. Release early release often.

    1. Re:Good by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Artificial release restrictions shoudn't exist. Release early release often.

      The Pirate Bay motto.

  9. same thing happened with blade runner 2049... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    but no one cared cuz it sucked.

  10. They paid for it, no damage done by iamhassi · · Score: 1

    They paid for these so who cares? It's not like they got the movie free, they just got it a month early.

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    1. Re:They paid for it, no damage done by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      There was some damage. This provided the movie to the pirate groups who made it available to everyone else... and the number of active downloaders is higher than any torrent I can remember in recent time.

      Damage done. How many people pirated a month early and now will not be purchasing it?

    2. Re:They paid for it, no damage done by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      They paid for these so who cares? It's not like they got the movie free, they just got it a month early.

      Retailers offering physical discs for sale may disagree about your assessment of "no damage done".

    3. Re:They paid for it, no damage done by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Zero. If they pirated it now, they would have very likely pirated a month from now. Unless Jan 2018 was set to be a banner year in reducing piracy somehow.

    4. Re:They paid for it, no damage done by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Jan 2018 isn’t a year.

    5. Re:They paid for it, no damage done by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      If I do get around to pirating a movie, I'll usually buy the used redbox bluray later. Not only does this rectify the copyright infringement (i kill my upload, so no distributing), but the copyright owner also sees zero money from me.

  11. Never mind iTunes, how about Pirate Bay? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Never mind iTunes, how about Pirate Bay?

    (Checks)

    Yep, it's there.

  12. Customer did something Hollywood hates: buy by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    You place blame on consumer with "Illegal purchase"

    I think this is what Hollywood is trying to do.

    If you've ever tried to play a purchased movie, you've probably noticed all the DRM constantly attempting to get everyone to switch to routine piracy, so that purchases become a thing of the past and the companies stop getting any revenue. These "businesses" are wildly, fanatically anti-revenue and few things piss them off more than paying customers. If you pay them, they are angry about it and looking for ways to either inconvenience you or hurt you, so that you'll stop. DRM is helping a lot with that.

    But some people, you just can't reach. They'll use whatever hilariously bad and inconvenient tools you make them use, to be compatible with the DRM. So Hollywood's problem is this: How do you get them (people who are ok with DRM) to start pirating?

    Illegal sales. And casting illegal sales as illegal purchases is how you start to work on these people. Scare them. Make them think they did something "wrong" or illegal, so that they'll switch to piracy to avoid it. (Without a purchase, you can't have an illegal purchase, and remember that purchases have your identity associated with it, so buying instead of pirating is a legally risky thing to do.)

    Some people are averse to inconvenience. Some to poor quality. Some people hate ads. But the customers they're targeting with this move, are ones who are averse to fear. Fear will make them pirate.

    Every Hollywood story can be better understood by remembering the context: the purpose of these companies' management is to inflict maximum damage on the stockholders, through outright fraud or malicious practice of fiduciary duties. They will not rest, until every person is a pirate. As long as they have customers, the war on customers is not over.

  13. Excellent by ArtemaOne · · Score: 1

    I'm sure they will want to fix this bug, but I'm definitely going to watch this tomorrow.

  14. Publicity stunt. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    So people are going to buy this feeling they are oh so clever when the "Thor: Ragnarök" theme has been beaten to death thousands of years ago. And, like John's Revelation, Ragnarök is not really all that dramatically interesting but just a large catastrophic action scene winddown. I'd rather have Thor dress up as Freya and try his best (which is awfully bad but sufficient) to be a coy Giant bride.