Half-Assed Solar Geoengineering Is Worse Than Climate Change Itself (vice.com)

New submitter beccaf writes: Ecologists and climate scientists investigated the consequences of rapid initiation of solar geoengineering (pumping sulfuric aerosols into the atmosphere) in 2020 and then rapid termination of this solar geoengineering fifty years later. It provides only short-term benefits to biodiversity, and, if stopped abruptly, temperatures will soar faster than they would with climate change alone and the consequences to all living things will be even worse than if humans had never interfered in Earth's natural processes at all. The study has been published in the journal Nature Ecology & Evolution. Rebecca Flowers via Motherboard summarizes the effects of solar geoengineering, according to research conducted by Christopher Trisos, an ecologist at the National Socio-Environmental Synthesis Center, and his colleagues: "Initially, organisms stop having to change habitats in response to rising temperatures. Highly mobile species that had already moved, like migratory birds, might return to their original ecosystems, and species that were too slow to move before, like corals, have a higher chance of survival than they did before the geoengineering project began. After mere decades, though, living things in highly biodiverse areas like the Amazon Basin have to start moving again, as much as they would have to in a non-geoengineering scenario."

"Suddenly, it's 2070," Flowers continues. "Governments begin to disagree on how to handle climate change, and, besides, they can no longer afford to pump aerosols into the atmosphere. As a result, we stop pumping aerosols into the atmosphere. Then things really go to hell. The amount of warming that would have happened without geoengineering over fifty years is essentially squished into a decade..."

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[Fancy Feast Cat Food]

Yours or his?

Back when Beau and I were in high school (circa 2014) he was a little weasel that couldn't make the debate team, so he went for the school newspaper. They welcomed him on as no one took interest in it. He had a really good shot at being the editor in chief our senior year since no other senior was on the newspaper, but they made an exception and gave the role to a freshman with a good reputation since Beau was so stoned out of his mind and never motivated to write anything that mattered.

Based on those reliable models...

[bradley13]

All of this, of course, is based on those oh-so-reliable models that can't account for the "pause" and generally fail to distinguish adequately between natural and anthropogenic warming. Just the kind of basis you want to use as the basis for a massive experiment with the planet's atmosphere.

First understand. Then tinker.

At the moment, the models generally fail to make any specific and falsifiable predictions. Where people have tried to make such predictions, based on the models, they have generally been wrong. It's not clear that current models are any better than the Farmer's Almanac.

Re:Based on those reliable models...

[Mashiki]

Suppose we don't have to suppose, because we're there already.

You mean it doesn't have to do with the fact that we're measuring in more places, more often, all of the time? Instead of the just occasionally some of the time? I mean come on now, we've already seen in the past with cherry picking of samples to "prove" global warming. Or the fact that more people happen to live in areas prone to "worse weather" that makes them think that the end is neigh. If you lived in Southern Ontario right now, you'd be thinking that. 2 weeks ago it was -23C. It was +9C yesterday. It's -6C outside right now. 3 years ago, we had more rain then snow. 5 years ago, there were places that had 7m of snow in a 24hr period with the lakes frozen over. 13ish years ago, they were screeching that the great lakes were going to dry up, last year they were limiting the flow from rivers into the lakes to try and avoid flooding in cities along the lakes.

I guess that's the thing you new-day global warming cultists don't get. Many people accept that there's "climate change" what people are disputing are the shit tier models, and then the screeching by people like yourself that anyone who dares to question it, is a denialist. It really "isn't that bad" or did you forget that the settlements in the 1500's and 1600's, the winters were so cold that entire settlements were wiped out simply from the weather. As far south as where DC is today, and in the span of less then 60 years, it became so warm that that malaria was common as far north as Upper Canada.