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Trump Team Considers Nationalizing America's 5G Network (axios.com)

JoeyRox writes: "Trump national security officials are considering an unprecedented federal takeover of a portion of the nation's mobile network to guard against China, according to sensitive documents obtained by Axios." This is based on a PowerPoint presentation Axios has in their possession. Two options are described -- a national 5G network funded and built by the Federal government, or a mix of 5G networks built by existing wireless providers. A source suggests the first option is preferred and essential to protect against competition from China and "bad actors". The presentation suggests that a government-built network would then be leased out to carriers like AT&T, Verizon, and T-Mobile.
The PowerPoint presentation was produced by a senior National Security Council official, and argues that the move is necessary because "China has achieved a dominant position in the manufacture and operation of network infrastructure," and "China is the dominant malicious actor in the Information Domain."

It also suggests America could export its secure 5G technology to protect its allies, and "Eventually this effort could help inoculate developing countries against Chinese neo-colonial behavior."

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  1. Re:Also in the news... by Actually,+I+do+RTFA · · Score: 5, Informative

    Mobile networks are not a natural monopoly, the way wired networks are.

    I find your views on limitless spectrum intreging and would like to know more. At the very least, you can always (at huge expense) run more non-interfering fiber. You cannot just broadcast more data.

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  2. Re:Extraordinarily bad idea by jeff4747 · · Score: 5, Informative

    Placing government in control of a 5G network everyone uses grants government means of directly tracking high resolution movements of everyone everywhere in real time. Hard to come up with a worse more dangerous idea than this one

    That horse left the barn in the Bush administration. Carriers are required to provide that information to the federal government. It's one of the things in the FISA bills that keep quietly passing Congress.

  3. Well Infrastructure should never be private by Casandro · · Score: 4, Informative

    We have learned that in Germany, where we went from one of the most modern data networks before we sold our phone company, down to something that's worse than in most eastern European countries.

    However in the interest of balance. Here's a counter point claiming that private enterprise means competition and therefore democracy. And obviously the oil industry in the US is a prime example for this.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?...

  4. Re: Good by kelemvor4 · · Score: 5, Informative

    Citation or examples please.

    As usual you have no clue.

    I work for the government. We are incompetent assclowns.

    NOAA, NASA are the first that come to mind. Your department may be full of assclowns, but not all are.

  5. Re: Good by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Informative

    Not to mention the USPS, which despite constant bitching from the Right will still deliver to any address in the U.S. for the cost of a stamp, which adjusted for inflation is about as cheap as it's ever been and is still an order of magnitude less than what you'd pay a private carrier for the same service.

  6. Re: Good by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Informative

    Korea.
    Australia.
    Netherlands.
    Sweden.

  7. Re: Good by apoc.famine · · Score: 4, Informative

    Really? USPS delivers to my door 6 days a week, and drops off for Amazon on Sunday. UPS swings by at 10am on a Tuesday, and slaps a note on my door that if I want my package, I have to drive to a shady strip mall 3 miles away in another day or two and pick it up from an "unaffiliated" UPS Store.

    And when I tell the employees at that store that it's fucking bullshit that I pay to have packages delivered to my door, and they don't even let me sign them to be left when I'm not there, they tell me that they're not affiliated with UPS. At a store branded "The UPS Store". And that I should call a 1800 number, wait on hold for 20 minutes, and then complain. And, of course, this "unaffiliated" store is open like 9 to 6, and Saturday morning.

    All while a mile from my house USPS has a 24hr service center where I can bring my packages in, weigh them, affix the postage, and drop them off, and buy stamps and even snag some of the flat-rate boxes.

    I'm in the upper Midwest in a small city. The difference between USPS and UPS is very stark around here. UPS sucks balls, and USPS is pretty fantastic, even when there's 2' of snow and a -20 wind chill.

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