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Lawyers Faced With Emojis and Emoticons Are All \_("/)_/ (wsj.com)

Zorro shares a WSJ report: Lawyers gathered at the Atlanta office of a big law firm were debating a head-scratching legal question. What does the emoji known as the "unamused face" actually mean? They couldn't even agree that the emoji in question -- it has raised eyebrows and a frown -- looked unamused. "Everybody said something different," recalls Morgan Clemons, 33 years old, a regulatory compliance lawyer at Aldridge Pite who organized the gathering last summer at Bryan Cave LLP, called "Emoji Law 101." Emojis -- tiny pictures of facial expressions or objects used in text messages, emails and on social media -- are no longer a laughing matter for the legal profession. (Editor's note: the link may be paywalled; alternative source.) Increasingly, they are bones of contention in lawsuits ranging from business disputes to harassment to defamation. In one Michigan defamation dispute, the meaning of an emoticon, an emoji-like image created with text characters from a standard keyboard, was up for debate.

A comment on an internet message board appeared to accuse a local official of corruption. The comment was followed by a ":P" emoticon. The judges on the Michigan Court of Appeals concluded in 2014 that the emoticon "is used to represent a face with its tongue sticking out to denote a joke or sarcasm." The court said the comment couldn't be taken seriously or viewed as defamatory. Puzzled lawyers are turning to seminars, informal meetings and academic papers to discern innuendo in seemingly innocuous pictures of martini glasses and prancing horses.

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  1. Defamation??? by mark-t · · Score: 4, Insightful

    An emoticon is understood, by definition, to convey emotion.

    I get how certain emoticons might feel offensive to some people in certain circumstances, but how can what someone *FEELS* be defamatory?

    1. Re:Defamation??? by ScentCone · · Score: 3, Interesting

      Expressing "feeings" doesn't have to meet the legal definition of defamation to still wind up getting lawyers involved. Even so, would you consider a restaurant review that says "My [food emoji] had [insect emoji] and [poop emoji] in it. Never eat here." ... to be an expression of "feelings," or the use of symbols to convey what any reasonable person would consider to be something exactly like "My salad had bugs and shit in it. Never eat here." ?

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    2. Re:Defamation??? by Junta · · Score: 4, Insightful

      In the cited example, it was the emotion that made it *not* defamation. If taken as serious, it might have been defamatory, but the emoji declaring it as a joke was how it was made *not* defamatory.

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    3. Re: Defamation??? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Insightful

      You're a bit oversensitive if you think that's harassment.

    4. Re:Defamation??? by Junta · · Score: 2

      Good thing you included that ':-P', otherwise that might have been seen as a threat of malicious lawsuit.

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    5. Re:Defamation??? by Solandri · · Score: 3, Insightful

      To be clear, without the emoticon, the meaning behind the phrase in question was already ambiguous (as short, written statements like you find on forums often are). The emoticon pushed it from the "could be misinterpreted as defamation" category to "not defamation."

      So contrary to the way TFA is presenting this, the emoticon actually clarified the meaning of the written statement. Which if you think about it, is the entire reason emoticons were invented in the first place. The cases TFA cites where the meaning of the emoticon is ambiguous are cases where the meaning/intent of the written statement was already ambiguous, and the emoticon didn't clarify the meaning enough.

    6. Re:Defamation??? by Junta · · Score: 2

      Eggplant is usually associated with penis, so saying someone likes to eat penis is making assertions about their sex life.

      Basically, using slang emoji is just like using slang words, and inappropriate use can be defamatory and/or offensive.

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  2. Are these guys serious? by redmid17 · · Score: 2

    There are literally emoji libraries where on can search the meaning. There is literally a word attached to every standard emoji (which in turn is an agreed upon ASCII representation)

    1. Re:Are these guys serious? by 6Yankee · · Score: 3, Insightful

      I participate in a forum with a very limited number of "smileys", one of which is pretty much exclusively used to indicate disgust. Its bbcode is {crazy}. They mean what the community decides they man, not necessarily what the designers intended.

      Emojis are [poop-emoji].

    2. Re:Are these guys serious? by Junta · · Score: 4, Insightful

      If I lookup U+1F346, then I'll get that it means 'AUBERGINE'.

      It will not say it means 'penis', which is what it means 99.9% of the time when actually used.

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    3. Re:Are these guys serious? by msauve · · Score: 2

      If you have a penis which looks like an eggplant, seek medical attention.

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    4. Re:Are these guys serious? by Oswald+McWeany · · Score: 3, Funny

      If you have a penis which looks like an eggplant, seek medical attention.

      I did and the nurse gave me her phone number.

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  3. Re:context by DickBreath · · Score: 2

    Who cares what words mean as long as it gets more billable hours for lawyers and paralegals.

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  4. Re:What is the meaning of \_("/)_/ ? by Oswald+McWeany · · Score: 2

    I was puzzling over the meaning of \_("/)_/ as shown in my Chrome browser.

    A quick search with google finds me this: \_()_/ Which immediately, looks like someone throwing up their hands in an "I don't know" fashion.

    Even the humble smiley :) carries a very different face when rendered on different devices. And thus has a different or no meaning sometimes.

    It gets worse. The famous pile of poo emoji sometimes gets rendered as a horrible stinky shit with flies buzzing around it. Other times it's a happy smiley piece of shit. A very different meaning is conveyed depending how it is rendered. Perhaps quite a different one that the author meant.

    The moral of the story is. Don't use emoji. Use proper language with proper words as found in proper dictionaries. Get your spelling right and be sure the words you are using have the meanings you intend.

    Of course slashdot does not render my second example correctly. Which demonstrates my point well. :)

    Back talking about your poop. It has been very famously been mistook for chocolate ice cream by numerous people. I, myself remember the first time I saw it wondering if it was poop or ice-cream (it was identical to the strawberry ice cream only brown)- I correctly assumed poop from the context.

    The original emoji come from Japan, and some of them are really only used by the Japanese. I think there is one that looks like there is a bit of water coming off the forehead; I forget what it really means, but I recall that most people in the West get it wrong.

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  5. Peeing on beds by Oswald+McWeany · · Score: 3, Funny

    A comment on an internet message board appeared to accuse a local official of corruption. The comment was followed by a ":P" emoticon. The judges on the Michigan Court of Appeals concluded in 2014 that the emoticon "is used to represent a face with its tongue sticking out to denote a joke or sarcasm." The court said the comment couldn't be taken seriously or viewed as defamatory.

    Donald Trump paid me $5,000 to pee on him. :P
    Hillary Clinton showed me her penis at a fund raiser. :P
    Richard Gere bought a hamster off me for $300 so he could stick in his rectum. :P

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  6. Re:No shit they're confused. by HiThere · · Score: 2

    Which font are you looking at the emoji in? It makes a difference.

    Emoji are ambiguous. This is largely intentional by the designers, and often by the users.

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  7. Emoji is plural. by BenFenner · · Score: 2

    "Emoji" is both singular, and plural. Just like "sheep" or similar. It is a Japanese word; a language where all nouns are singular and plural. Can we keep the "S" out of it? I ask just this one thing, please.