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Twitter Notifies 1.4 Million Users of Interaction With Russian Accounts (recode.net)

An anonymous reader quotes a report from Recode: At least 1.4 million people on Twitter engaged with content created by Russian trolls during the 2016 presidential election, the company revealed on Wednesday. That's more than double the amount that Twitter initially identified -- and perhaps still just a fraction of the full universe of users who may have witnessed Kremlin propaganda over that period. In announcing the new data in a blog post, Twitter also said it had notified all 1.4 million affected users that they saw election disinformation. That fulfilled a pledge that the company previously made to members of Congress who are investigating Russia's tactics on social media. Notified users included those that followed one of the roughly 3,000 accounts belonging to the Internet Research Agency, the troll army tied to the Russian government, as well as users who retweeted, replied, liked or mentioned those IRA accounts in their tweets. But Twitter did not alert users who merely saw Russian troll tweets in their feeds but did not interact with the content. Nor did it reach out to users who saw tweets from the roughly 50,000 Russian bots that tweeted election-related content around November 2016.

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  1. While you were distracted by Nunes by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Trump refused to implement the sanctions law, claiming the mere threat of sanctions was working.
    https://www.reuters.com/article/us-usa-russia-sanctions/trump-administration-holds-off-on-new-russia-sanctions-despite-law-idUSKBN1FI2V7

    However his CIA chief says Russia has not let up attacking the USA and expects Russia to interfere in the US Midterm elections:
    http://time.com/5124313/cia-mike-pompeo-russia-midterm-elections/

    Republicans should clean house, Nunes is blowing a smoke screen to hide Russian attacks on the US elections, and you can't have the Republican head of the Intelligence oversight committee giving cover for a *foreign* intelligence agency to attack the US.

  2. One simple fix. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Interesting

    Put a flag icon of the accounts country of origin over their tweets. That way you can see where it's coming from.

  3. We need examples of the elleged Russian action by bogaboga · · Score: 4, Insightful

    When it comes to trolling, I will be most grateful if anyone presents clear-cut example(s) of what Russians are alleged to have exposed to us.

    I have a feeling it's not that different when compared to what the US agencies do themselves.

    So folks, spit out some examples.

    1. Re:We need examples of the elleged Russian action by ganjadude · · Score: 4, Insightful

      exactly. i mean, if they are pushing truth and not lies, shouldnt we be more upset with our own government for lying to us??

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    2. Re: We need examples of the elleged Russian action by bsDaemon · · Score: 3, Insightful

      The best I can figure is, they leveraged two pillars of a free society: freedom of press and freedom of speech, by posting on open social media platforms and buying ads. Some people donâ(TM)t like the outcome and refuse to accept that after 30+ years of dealing with Clintons in the political spotlight, enough people in strategically important locations were sick of it to not vote for her. It must have been a few months of social media lies by Russians!

      The burried lead here is essentially that Democrats are insisting that Trump voters are easily misled idiots incapable of rational thought. BUT if they had believed different social media bias and voted for Clinton, then they would obviously be independent thinkers.

      I didnâ(TM)t vote for Trump. I think heâ(TM)s crass and shallow. But I didnâ(TM)t vote for Hillary because I donâ(TM)t want her to be president either. I will also say this much: I have no appreciation for those who say âoeif you donâ(TM)t agree with me you are an easily duped idiot who made up his mind because of a tweet.â

    3. Re: We need examples of the elleged Russian action by guruevi · · Score: 2

      I'm not on either Facebook or Twitter, I have an IQ greater than 70 after all, but I would love to see some hard evidence and messages that these trolls send out. I'm sure there is much ads and bots going around Twitter/Facebook but it reminds me more of IRC in the late 90s.

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    4. Re:We need examples of the elleged Russian action by burtosis · · Score: 3, Insightful

      exactly. i mean, if they are pushing truth and not lies, shouldnt we be more upset with our own government for lying to us??

      Whoa, whoa, whoa. Are you trying to say that maybe we should focus on what's actually important, affecting us daily, and under our control?!? Good, because I'm pretty sure the answer is in her goddamn emails.

    5. Re:We need examples of the elleged Russian action by allcoolnameswheretak · · Score: 4, Interesting

      Since the Ukrainian vote to join the EU, Russia has gone on an all-out propaganda offensive with the intention to split the west and weaken NATO. Russia regards the Ukraine as its "home-turf" and buffer against perceived NATO "aggression", and it regards the EU as the gateway to NATO membership for eastern European countries that were formally part of the Soviet Union.
      Russia feels as if NATO is encroaching on its sphere of influence and waging an "underhanded" war of political expansion. Looking at a map you will see how one by one, former Soviet republics have been converted into NATO countries.
      Russia also feels that this NATO expansion is a violation of a promise made to Gorbachev at the dissolution of the Soviet Union, that NATO would not expand to the east.
      For this reasons Russia has decided to go on the offensive and start fighting NATO. Not by military means, since it does not have the means to seriously compete with NATO, but by information warfare, taking full advantage of the traits of our open societies, such as freedom of speech and of the press. Using fake news and trolls that sow discontent and dissent, it intends to cause a rift between our countries and institutions.
      Russian agents already provided plenty of cannon fodder to the Brexit crew and succeeded in swaying public opinion. Everything that causes a rift through the EU and NATO is good for Russia.
      Russia is very active in spreading fake news and inciting discontent around far-right groups in Europe, using the refugee crisis to full effect (fake news about rapists, terrorists and other criminals among refugees) to strengthen the far-right and to politically destabilize European nations, especially Germany and France. Fortunately these activities have only had marginal success thus far, with the far-right Front National in France and the AfD in Germany gaining some votes, but not enough to pose a serious threat to the political establishment.
      It had resounding success in the U.S. were it just so managed to tip the scale in favor of Trump, the weaker candidate, and the US government and especially foreign policy is practically paralyzed and ineffectual at the moment. If you want some information or evidence on these activities, it's really only a good google search away.
      Russian activities in Germany and Europe:
      https://www.nato.int/docu/Revi...
      http://time.com/4889471/german...
      https://www.politico.eu/articl...
      http://www.bbc.com/news/world-...
      http://www.telegraph.co.uk/new...

      On Russia's overall strategy and interference in the US:
      https://www.newyorker.com/maga...
      http://www.slate.com/articles/...

      That should be a good start to get an idea.

    6. Re: We need examples of the elleged Russian action by nedlohs · · Score: 2

      Both sides were being played - it wasn't just pro trump but more a "sow discord". At least those are the allegations. For example:

      http://www.houstonpress.com/ne...
      http://www.foxnews.com/politic...

      It's not Trump voters are idiots for believing Russian trolls, it's there are enough idiots on both sides that it's easy to manufacture conflict - which then gets reported in the media creating more conflict and on we go.

    7. Re:We need examples of the elleged Russian action by ScentCone · · Score: 2, Insightful

      Good, because I'm pretty sure the answer is in her goddamn emails.

      No, not "her emails." Rather, "Her willingness to look you in the eye and lie non-stop for a year about her deliberate mishandling of classified material in a way that would lose anyone else their clearance and their job, and likely put them in serious legal jeopardy ... and the willingness of a few key people in the FBI and DoJ to do everything possible to make sure she was held to a different and - by comparison - completely toothless standard for purely partisan political reasons, to make sure she became the next boss of all of those people who would lose their jobs and their liberty if they did anything even approaching what she did, and which everyone near her insisted on getting immunity agreements to even talk about."

      And, at this point, it wouldn't really matter. Except that what the purely partisan year-long witch hunt we're currently witnessing is based on is a collection of decisions and actions made by some of those very same Clinton-backing partisans in the FBI and DoJ. Yes, that IS under our control. Those people shouldn't be in that line of work. There are a jillion other things that would more constructively benefit from all of the energy the left is currently putting into their phony, theatrical hysterics. But they still can't get over the fact they put Hillary Clinton forward as their candidate, and lost because she was a terrible candidate who went out of her way to exhibit her disdain for - among other things - millions of women she called deplorable. Or the entire state of Wisconsin, in which she couldn't even be troubled to set foot during her campaign. So to make up for their terrible performance and choices, the Democrats and the majority of the media, which carry their water, are standing around with their hair on fire pretending it's all about something else, and wasting all of our time and energy. Yes, we can do something about that, and should. Because we have other stuff to do.

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    8. Re: We need examples of the elleged Russian action by penandpaper · · Score: 2

      This kind of comment shows how effective at poisoning the well works. There is no need for critical thought on the message if you can dismiss the messenger with a single word.

      To pivot a little, one argument being made is that we should know "who" donates to PACs, Super-PACs, online ads, and online groups so we know their "true" motives. Initially, sounds great but it is very much like poisoning the well. I don't need to think about the position if I can dismiss it as a Kock or Mercer propaganda piece. I wonder, would that position apply in the US South in 1850's for anti-slavery political spending. Would you care that the person promoting anti-slave positions in the south would face consequences for their position by deanonymizing them? Can their message stand on it's own merits and why would it change today?

      The point is that any message should be judged by its own merit and sometimes knowing who said the message is irrelevant. If the best you can do is dismiss any message because someone you don't like said it then you are intellectually lazy and lack critical thinking abilities.

    9. Re:We need examples of the elleged Russian action by ganjadude · · Score: 2

      this response right here, this is the nonsense that tells us you guys dont have any real arguments. When presented with a thought your first response it to cry russia. Sad really

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  4. Re:Right about 1%.... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Insightful

    Exactly!

    The liberals are pushing the idea of globalism and acceptance of other people, but they are critical of each and every person that has even the slightest interaction with somebody from Russia.

  5. Trolls, political campaigns, difference? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Interesting

    Which should beg the question: What's the difference between foreign political trolling and domestic political campaigning? We already allow corporations and any domestic actor to express their political opinions, constructively and not. Is it somehow different when it's a foreign actor?

    "... commit myself to defend ... the United States against all enemies, foreign and domestic ..."

    1. Re: Trolls, political campaigns, difference? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Insightful

      "Is it somehow different when it's a foreign actor?"

      Yes. Yes it is. The fact that you feel you need to even ask that question is frightening. What the hell is wrong with you?

  6. Re:We need examples of the alleged Russian action by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Insightful

    There was a claim, [possibly made by Vlado himself,] that many of the Russian IPv4's interacting with Twitter traffic were due to TOR exit servers based in Russia.

    So we are back to a verifiable {micro-sized airborne particles of combustion origin and planar reflective surfaces} situation

  7. Real question is .... by JuliceMTL · · Score: 2

    how many users engaged with content created by american trolls?

    1. Re: Real question is .... by guruevi · · Score: 4, Funny

      How many followers does CNN have?

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  8. Who they were targetting by XXongo · · Score: 2, Insightful

    Wonder who they were targeting...

    In fact, it's pretty clear that they were targeting America in general.

    Despite the popular thinking, all the evidence is that they weren't actually trying to help one political party over another-- their intent was just to disrupt American society, and the democratic process, any way that they could.

    (and not just America-- they wanted to disrupt western European countries as well. And, of course, it all stems from their attempts to destabilize Ukraine.)

    1. Re:Who they were targetting by Green+Mountain+Bot · · Score: 4, Insightful

      This is mostly true. Their primary objective was definitely to divide the populace and undermine liberal democracy, and they went so far as to organize opposing protests in adjacent locations. But it isn't true that they didn't care who won. They definitely preferred for Trump to win - they just assumed that there was no way US voters would be that stupid, and focused on undermining the legitimacy of the system as a whole. But as Mencken said, "Americans are dumber than horse shit." (That is the quote, right?) And here we are.

  9. You don't see evidence you don't look at by XXongo · · Score: 4, Informative

    I haven't seen any evidence that Russia ever attacked us in any way,

    Depends on what you mean by "attacked". What they did was spread disruptive messages primarily through social media, with the apparent intent of sowing discord and animosity. If you "haven't seen evidence", I take it to mean that you haven't actually looked at any of the evidence.

    I will point out, however, that what they seem to have done here is not actually illegal. They posted messages. Turns out it's legal to post messages of almost any sort. (They may have violated terms of service by using a bot army to do a lot of this... but it's not clear that violating terms of service is actually a crime).

    Except for the part about breaking into the DNC email system. That part actually was illegal.

    nor that they hacked our elections,

    Depends on what you mean by "hacked our elections". There's no evidence, for example, that they ever successfully broke into voting machines to change votes (although there is some evidence that they did some probing). What they did was use their army of bots to spread disruptive messages. Is that "hacking an election?" Well, if social hacking is "hacking."

    something Obama and Clinton said could not happen when it was them being accused of it before the election.

    Interesting, but, no, neither one of them ever said that it's impossible to hack an election. They did not say this.

  10. Examples of the Russian action are in the links by XXongo · · Score: 2

    When it comes to trolling, I will be most grateful if anyone presents clear-cut example(s) of what Russians are alleged to have exposed to us.

    So, I take it you didn't follow any of the links in the summary, like say this one https://www.theverge.com/2018/... or this one https://blog.twitter.com/offic...

    Why are you bothering to comment if you aren't even interested enough to follow the links?

    you could have tried a google search, too: https://www.google.com/search?...

  11. Re:Can't get an answer if you don't pay attention by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Insightful

    Ya... nothing in the links specifically talk about how they identify that an account was opened by a "Russian"

    They use terms like, "Linked with" and other vague phrases. But nothing that says they can prove an account was opened in this location by some individual. If I were in Southern CA and opened an account and posted material similar to what they claim are Russian accounts, they'd likely claim I was a Russian.

    More likely they are simply choosing what accounts to claim are Russian based solely on their content.

    If you have a better explanation, I'm listening.

    BTW, calling someone a Russian simply because you don't like their messages is pretty much the bottom of the barrel when it comes to any kind of discussion. Conceptually, it's no different than scoffing at someone and dismissing them as a N*ger or K*ke, or any other racist pejorative. It is pure intellectually laziness and an explicit admission that you have lost the argument.

  12. Re:Right about 1%.... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Funny

    Russia wants the U.S. to be divided politically.

    This has been the historical norm.

    the last Presidential election was divisive. Regardless of who won, bipartisanship is, if not at an all time low, pretty close to it's all time low.

    I honestly do not believe that if Clinton had won we would have the same merry-go-round circus shit-show we have now. Sure, many GOP would do obstruct with like Obama but that is hardly new and not the same level of divisiveness.

    Part of the issue is cognitive dissonance on the left after Trump won. Because the rhetoric was "literally Hitler" they had to accept the fact that people disagree with them and try to figure out why or double down and find any excuse to validate their belief no matter how faulty or weak the evidence. Saying "The country is more racist than I thought.[1] Russians stole the election.[2] Trump only won because collusion with Russia[3]" etc is easier than to admit your were wrong or that the media that influenced your belief was wrong. There is no evidence as it stands for any of those things. If Clinton had won it would have been a "sigh of relief that we avoided disaster " and "avoided literally Hitler" and they could continue to believe what they already believed without having to face disagreement or that they might be wrong.

    Honestly, given the State of the Union address and the Democrats sitting on their hands for literally anything said, I am not sure how you can get any bipartisan agreement. I am curious how the opposition party reaction during the State of the Union can predict future agreements. Did the GOP sit for everything said by Obama or only for things they don't like? Were they able to make progress on the things they agreed on errr stand up for?

    1) The only evidence was a statistic that had hate crimes rise a little and if you break down the numbers most of the increase was attributed to more hate crimes against white men.
    2) There is no evidence that Russia changed a single vote or hacked a single voting machine.
    3) There is an investigation but as it stands now there is no evidence. Anyone claiming otherwise before the evidence is out is only looking for things to confirm their per-existing belief.

  13. Re:Right about 1%.... by Narcocide · · Score: 3, Insightful

    Traitors.