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Chrome OS Is Almost Ready To Replace Android On Tablets (theverge.com)

Several news features rolling out to Chromebooks paint a picture of the future of Chrome OS as the rightful replacement for Android tablet software. Those include a new split-screen feature for multitasking while in tablet mode, and a screenshot feature borrowed from Android. The Verge reports: As it stands now, Chrome OS is very close to taking up the mantle there, and features like this push it ever closer to becoming the hybrid OS for all types of Google-powered screens. This has been in the works for quite a while as Google's Chrome and Android teams have coordinated closely to ensure the influx of low-cost, hybrid computing devices like 2-in-1 Chromebooks get the best of both worlds. There is, of course, Android app compatibility on Chrome OS, an initiative that first arrived somewhat half-baked last year and has taken months to fully jell as Google worked out the kinks. For instance, just last month Google added the ability for Android apps on Chromebooks run in the background. In July of last year, Google also began embarking on a touch-focused redesign of Chrome OS to make the software more functional in tablet mode. We're likely not getting the full-blown merging of the two divisions and their respective platforms anytime soon, or perhaps ever, as Google has played with the idea for years without ever seeming to decide that one platform should supersede the other. In essence, however, Android remains Google's dominant mobile OS, while Chrome OS has been taking on more responsibility as Chromebooks have steadily become more capable and tablet-like.

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  1. It seems that... by SurenEnfiajyan · · Score: 0

    the year of Chrome OS on the desktop is cumming in the near future.

    1. Re:It seems that... by blahbooboo · · Score: 3, Funny

      the year of Chrome OS on the desktop is cumming in the near future.

      Interesting typo... The word is "coming", "cumming" means something completely different.

    2. Re:It seems that... by SurenEnfiajyan · · Score: 0

      Yeah, accidentally clicked on a wrong spellcheck suggestion It's the drug of 21 century.

    3. Re:It seems that... by Excelcia · · Score: 1

      Not necessarily wrong. Google wants to splooge Chrome all over every notebook screen. What a great idea - a whole OS dedicated to giving away as much of our data as possible and placing all our reliance on Google.

    4. Re:It seems that... by Illogical+Spock · · Score: 1

      It was not a typo, he was just f*cking with us...

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    5. Re:It seems that... by bornroot · · Score: 3, Funny

      Interesting typo... The word is "coming", "cumming" means something completely different.

      He was using the new split-screen feature, writing in one window, doing something else in the other.

  2. ChromeOS, Androind, Linux. Lah de dah. by TechyImmigrant · · Score: 0

    >Chrome OS Is Almost Ready To Replace Android On Tablets

    Linux is Almost Ready to Replace Linux On Tablets.

    There, fixed that for you.

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    1. Re:ChromeOS, Androind, Linux. Lah de dah. by Actually,+I+do+RTFA · · Score: 1, Redundant

      Electric signals are almost ready to replace electric signals in tablets

      Stupid reductionism is stupid. I cannot just run any Linux software on a tablet (e.g. GIMP). Being based on linux is no more interesting than being based on electricity.

      See also, OSX != BSD

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    2. Re:ChromeOS, Androind, Linux. Lah de dah. by Jane+Q.+Public · · Score: 3, Informative

      I cannot just run any Linux software on a tablet (e.g. GIMP). Being based on linux is no more interesting than being based on electricity.

      Sure you can.

      There are various apps you can use (I use one called "Linux Deploy") that let you run a full Linux install in a "VM"-type arrangement on your Android tablet.

      I can install a full Linux setup with a KDE or Ubuntu desktop, and get near-native performance. And run it either full-screen, or in an Android-type window.

      You would need a big SD card if you're going to install a lot of apps, but big SD cards are available.

    3. Re:ChromeOS, Androind, Linux. Lah de dah. by Actually,+I+do+RTFA · · Score: 1

      Wow, a virtual machine! Tell me more!

      Look, I'm not trying to dis Android. I'm just saying that it being based on Linux doesn't make it equivalent to Chrome OS, any more than OSX is equivalent to BSD or the ability to run Windows 95 in the browser of your Android device makes it a Windows machine.

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    4. Re: ChromeOS, Androind, Linux. Lah de dah. by jouassou · · Score: 1

      One one hand I agree: it's Linux, but it's definitely not GNU/Linux. And in the cases of Android and ChromeOS, this distinction is quite meaningful. On the other hand, every time Android or ChromeOS gets official driver support for another mobile or tablet device, that means you've got full support for the Linux kernel, and can in principle run any other Linux-based OS on it as well. In that sense, it is actually relevant.

    5. Re: ChromeOS, Androind, Linux. Lah de dah. by Actually,+I+do+RTFA · · Score: 1

      Oh, I'm totally willing to say that Android and ChromeOS are good for the Linux ecosystem. You're quite right that it drives drivers (probably the most important aspect.). But that's not the topic of this thread. I was originally responding to someone who said "Android and ChromeOS are both Linux, therefore interchangable"

      I'm imagining my next surfing/email/slashdot computer will be a Chromebook with a "real" distro on it. They seem to be driving the price down on those platforms pretty nicely.

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    6. Re:ChromeOS, Androind, Linux. Lah de dah. by serviscope_minor · · Score: 4, Informative

      Linux is Almost Ready to Replace Linux On Tablets.

      And this is why people really hate RMS: because the bastard is far too often right.

      He warned about this decades ago with the whole GNU/Linux thing and lots of people pokled fun and/or claimed he was trying to take credit. He always said it was to abvoid PRECISELY this kind of confusion.

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    7. Re:ChromeOS, Androind, Linux. Lah de dah. by TechyImmigrant · · Score: 1

      >I cannot just run any Linux software on a tablet

      I got up a bash shell on an android tablet. I could ls and cd and pwd and cat and echo. That's enough userspace to be going on with.

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    8. Re:ChromeOS, Androind, Linux. Lah de dah. by Jane+Q.+Public · · Score: 1

      If you would like more information about how to do this, go here.

    9. Re: ChromeOS, Androind, Linux. Lah de dah. by Jane+Q.+Public · · Score: 1

      Using chroot, you can essentially install a VM on your Android device.

      Yes, REAL, full-blown Linux. I keep having to repeat that when I tell them about this, because they tend to disbelieve.

      For one way to do it, check out this.

  3. Why Chrome OS when Fuchsia is the future? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Why is Google wasting time on Chrome OS when Fuchsia sounds like it will be so much better than Chrome OS could ever hope to be?

    Frankly, I think that Chrome OS should be thrown out. I think that it's much like Firefox OS, in that it embodies nearly the wrong way to do everything on a mobile device. It uses the Linux kernel, instead of a lightweight microkernel. It puts so much focus on the web browser, which is among the least-battery-friendly and least-efficient software around. It locks down the device to the point of it being pretty much useless unless you replace Chrome OS with a real OS of some sort.

    The resources being wasted on Chrome OS could be put toward Fuchsia instead. Fuchsia is something I'm really excited for. But Chrome OS? The only thing that excites me about Chrome OS is knowing that hopefully someday soon Fuchsia will crush it!

    1. Re:Why Chrome OS when Fuchsia is the future? by ChunderDownunder · · Score: 3, Insightful

      Chrome OS is a real, shipping, product. Fuchsia will be ready in 1, 2, or 5 years?

      Google wants to gain momentum in the education market; Fuchsia would miss that window. My niece recently graduated from year 6 to high school. She attends a boutique K-12 private school where in earlier years every kid had an iPad but now her cashed-strapped parents must buy her a Macbook. Chrome OS running Android apps offers the best (worst?!) of both worlds on a single device.

    2. Re:Why Chrome OS when Fuchsia is the future? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      If any school system required me to purchase an Apple product for my Child, I would tell them to shove it where the sun don't shine. If they want to require students to use such an overpriced no future device, then they can pay for it.

      "Training" students on Macs is not the way. Walk though any corporate office and tell me what you see sitting on 95% of the desks. I'll bet they are Dells or HPs

      I am all for alternatives to Windows, but teaching our students to use something that nearly no offices use is just doing them a disservice for future job prospects.

      Sure you will have the bright students that can easily transition from one platform to the other, but you are going to have a majority who wont be able to click their way out of a wet paper bag if confronted with windows, if all they have ever sat in front of is iOS/MacOS prior.

    3. Re:Why Chrome OS when Fuchsia is the future? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      You are creating a cognitive dissonance here:

      "boutique K-12 private school" vs. "ashed-strapped parents must buy her a Macbook".

      Really, you bring had to bring Apple into it didn't you. Cash-strapped, indeed.

    4. Re:Why Chrome OS when Fuchsia is the future? by ChunderDownunder · · Score: 1

      Not every parent that sends their kids to private school is mega-rich.

      At least in my corner of the globe it's common to sacrifice a large proportion of one's income because the state-run system is considered inadequate.

    5. Re:Why Chrome OS when Fuchsia is the future? by ChunderDownunder · · Score: 1

      Their school, their rules.

      I would personally send them to the local high school so they could meet kids in the neighbourhood rather than driving them 15km but it's their choice.

    6. Re:Why Chrome OS when Fuchsia is the future? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I see Macs, lots and lots of Macs, and iPhones and iPads. Of course, I work in the engineering and operations side of the business. But even the business folks in accounting, sales, and the c-suite are all rocking iPhones and iPads with some turning in their Windows based Thinkpads to use iPads exclusively.

    7. Re:Why Chrome OS when Fuchsia is the future? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      And I hope CPS takes your kids away.

    8. Re:Why Chrome OS when Fuchsia is the future? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      If you are doing all of your primary work on an iPhone/iPad, your job sounds easily downsized.

    9. Re:Why Chrome OS when Fuchsia is the future? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      Stop calling the marketing department the engineering department Jim. We've been over this.

      Also please stop calling our Linux machines Macs. They aren't.

      Signed,
      An Engineer from the Actual Engineering Department

    10. Re:Why Chrome OS when Fuchsia is the future? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      The executives don't need general purpose computers anymore since they only use several apps which all run on an iPad and the rest is browser based (cloud). However, there are a few engineering or operations managers that have also gone the iPad route since they only manage people.

      My company is not small, we have almost 100K employees globally with over $20B in revenue.

    11. Re:Why Chrome OS when Fuchsia is the future? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Sounds like a lot of bloat on the top side

    12. Re:Why Chrome OS when Fuchsia is the future? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      CPS is going to take your kids away because you refuse to inflict apple's walled garden on them? Thank god i choose not to be a breeder

    13. Re:Why Chrome OS when Fuchsia is the future? by Zontar+The+Mindless · · Score: 1

      Let me guess... you're about 14 and live in a trailer park, right?

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    14. Re:Why Chrome OS when Fuchsia is the future? by Zontar+The+Mindless · · Score: 1

      But at least they don't have to pay taxes sufficient to support a good public school system. I'm sure that's a huge relief.

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    15. Re:Why Chrome OS when Fuchsia is the future? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      According to you, there is lots of bloat on the top because people don't use devices that are not needed.

      The bloat is in your brain.

    16. Re:Why Chrome OS when Fuchsia is the future? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Itâ(TM)s not common in Australia, but sometimes rich fucks (like yourself?) have delusions of poverty while sending their kids to private schools.

    17. Re:Why Chrome OS when Fuchsia is the future? by ChunderDownunder · · Score: 1

      I read somewhere recently that roughly 40% of parents in Melbourne were sending their kids to non-government schools on top of having 30 year mortgages of some of the most overpriced real estate on the planet. Yes, it's common.

      Me, a rich fuck? Hardly. I'm in the lower spectrum of earners, putting myself through a university degree.

  4. Crouton Phone by LarryRiedel · · Score: 1

    I hope they proceed to using this on phones so I can install Crouton on my phone and have a regular Linux desktop user experience there if I want.

    1. Re:Crouton Phone by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Can't help you with a "desktop experience" just yet. But I found Termux incredibly useful. I use it on my Chromebook; and since I installed it, I haven't touched my primary laptop again. That's been about two months ago. It addresses most of my needs. And what I can't do in Termux, I can do with Chrome Remote Desktop and a virtual instance of Linux somewhere in the cloud.

      At some point, we'll get CrosVM on ChromeOS, and it'll give us the ability to natively run Linux containers without requiring "Dev Mode". Very little is known about this feature and it's still a way out. But current indications suggest that it'll support at least some types of desktop applications.

      Of course, that won't help you with your use case. This feature is not expected to show up in Android.

    2. Re:Crouton Phone by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      You mean like having trouble getting sound to work properly? *ducks* ;)

    3. Re:Crouton Phone by drinkypoo · · Score: 1

      Try Linux Deploy (or if you don't trust Google, go to the github.) You do have the problem of having to connect to it via VNC still AFAIK, since last I looked all the Android X servers were garbage. But if you know one that works, I'm interested.

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    4. Re:Crouton Phone by squiggleslash · · Score: 1

      They've had systems, albeit imperfect, to install Debian or Ubuntu on Android phones pretty much since the 2.x days (maybe earlier.) I believe almost all require root. Here's one of the most popular, although I believe it's not being updated any more.

      Ubuntu at one point had an official Android/Ubuntu hybrid project, which I think was used as the core of the Motorola Atrix, the one phone that you could dock and turn into a full desktop (or it might have been Ubuntu for Android was based on the Atrix system, I don't know which was first), it's definitely an area being worked on, and has the advantage, over both Crouton and DebianNoRoot, that Android apps are fully integrated, you can bring them up on your desktop, just like more recent ChromeOS versions allow you to.

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    5. Re:Crouton Phone by OneAhead · · Score: 1

      You must have had a better experience with Crouton than I did. I've been using it on a laptop that saw roughly 6 hours of use per week, but in the end, it required manual intervention a little bit too often to keep running correctly - largely due to ChromeOS updates breaking things, but Google arguably can't be faulted for breaking an unsupported 3rd party hack by trying to take their ChromeOS product in a given direction.

      Anyhow, I eventually got rid of the thing and bought a wintel laptop (on which I did a proper Linux install) for the same purpose. The replacement cost easily 3x as much as the chromebook, but my time has value too.

  5. split screen by mapkinase · · Score: 1

    there is nothing to split.

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  6. TFS belies TFH (The Fucking Headline) by thomst · · Score: 2

    The headline claims "Chrome OS Is Almost Ready To Replace Android On Tablets," while TFS (which is itself apparently a quote of The Verge's story) says, "In essence, however, Android remains Google's dominant mobile OS, while Chrome OS has been taking on more responsibility as Chromebooks have steadily become more capable and tablet-like."

    So the story contradicts the headline, which means the headline is pure ...

    ... clickbait.

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  7. Bastardizing the GNU by eclectro · · Score: 2

    So they are using the Linux Kernel, but yet their license looks nothing like the GNU license?

    If I wanted to be locked-in with an OS and other services, I'd buy Apple products. They do a much better job it seems and are not a search company trying to get all my data so they can mine personal information about me then sell it.

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    1. Re:Bastardizing the GNU by farble1670 · · Score: 2

      So they are using the Linux Kernel, but yet their license looks nothing like the GNU license?

      That comment makes me wonder if you understand how software licensing works at all. They are following all the rules that allow them to make use of the GPL. How is that "bastardizing" GNU? It's exactly the opposite of that actually.

      If I wanted to be locked-in with an OS and other services, I'd buy Apple products.

      What does that it even mean? Locked into an OS? You're locked in to ChromeOS just as much as you are if you start learning and accumulating software for any OS.

      I'd buy Apple products

      Based on your rantings (trolling) I'd have to assume you are pro-OSS. Most of ChromeOS is open source. Go download the MacOS kernel. Let me know how that goes.

      are not a search company trying to get all my data so they can mine personal information about me then sell it.

      From the mouths of babes.

    2. Re:Bastardizing the GNU by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      Go download the MacOS kernel.

      For your convenience, here's a link to browse the source online.

      (To be clear, I'm being facetious here; your point is that most of Apple's software isn't free-as-in-freedom, you just chose a bad example).

    3. Re:Bastardizing the GNU by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I think the point being made here, is that while android is an actual open source license https://source.android.com/setup/licenses , Chrome OS licensing on the other hand. It is no secret that google has been replacing open source apps on android with less free (as in freedom) apps for a long time. Here is an interesting read on the subject.

      https://arstechnica.com/gadgets/2013/10/googles-iron-grip-on-android-controlling-open-source-by-any-means-necessary/

    4. Re:Bastardizing the GNU by short · · Score: 1

      So why is Apple blocking the Free WebM format? How to play Free videos on iPhone? That is probably the last reason why YouTube still have to provide also the mp4/H.264/5 crap variant for all their videos.

    5. Re:Bastardizing the GNU by tlhIngan · · Score: 1

      So why is Apple blocking the Free WebM format? How to play Free videos on iPhone? That is probably the last reason why YouTube still have to provide also the mp4/H.264/5 crap variant for all their videos.

      WebM isn't free. Google has admitted to it and is paying the license fees for the patents it uses. That's why Google is preferring people use h.264 instead It's also why all the big players have stopped bothering with it - if they're going to pay h.264 license fees for something that is worse than h.264, they're just going to stick with h.264.

      h.265 is another matter altogether and no one knows what is going to be supported by anyone anymore, especially with AV1 just finishing standardization But AV1 just finished, so nothing really supports it and hardware decoders take a year or two to appear..

  8. Screenshot! by farble1670 · · Score: 4, Funny

    and a screenshot feature borrowed from Android

    OMFG the screenshot feature is ready? Ship it!

    1. Re:Screenshot! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      This is why my chromebook never gets used. It's a web-developers wet dream and it can stay that way.

      I want a real computer, which needs no internet connection (ever) to work if I decide to never let it connect. To have something that depends on the internet to function is just asking for trouble when it's lights out time for the internet.

      Couple that with 'internet fast lanes' and it's a big pile of stinking mess. I'll have hardware I can actually use offline thanks.

  9. Modular is lighter than an OS on microkernel by raymorris · · Score: 1

    > Linux kernel, instead of a lightweight microkernel.

    I think you mean "a single lightweight Linux kernel instead of a daemons and a microkernel". Running the same functionality in many separate processes isn't lightweight.

    If, instead of either compiling or loading the modules a device needs, Android ran the "do everything" kernel that Redhat ships, that would include more functionality than needed, and be heavier than needed. The lightweight way to go is to load only the functionality the device requires - and a thousand messages and process switches per second aren't required. That's extra weight. You can argue that security or some other goal is worth the extra weight, but microkernels do a lot of extra work. Nothing lightweight about it.

  10. Who Cares? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    iOS is the best tablet OS.

  11. Just to be replaced by Google Fuchsia? by JohnStock · · Score: 1

    .. Not thanks.. It's an internet meme how fast Google creates new products then abandons them, or creates several competing products in the same space and then abandons all but one of them. The last 2 years this has accelerated and it's hard to trust them for anything medium term and commit to them.

  12. Video decoding is in the hardware, knucklehead by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Video decoding acceleration is in the hardware. Almost all hardware on Earth has H.264 video and audio decoding builtin, from Intel to AMD to most mobile.

    Your phone could of course use software decoding for WebM, the cpu use would be incredible and your battery would get taxed heavily.

    So that is likely why they don't support your favorite codec on the iPhone, because it is not a computer plugged into a wall with as much power as it likes running a 3Ghz Intel desktop chip, having speed to spare.

    You have a low Slashdot ID, what is your excuse to not know these kinds of things?

    1. Re:Video decoding is in the hardware, knucklehead by short · · Score: 1
    2. Re:Video decoding is in the hardware, knucklehead by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      And that link demonstrates what? It doesn't load for me, but I highly doubt it has any way to shoehorn WebM acceleration into Intel CPUs.

      You must have the affliction known as shit for brains. Does it slosh around in your head or is it a hard turd?

    3. Re:Video decoding is in the hardware, knucklehead by short · · Score: 1

      I have found my Android really plays/prefers mp4 from YouTube, probably because of the hardware acceleration. But then Android plays even WebM, iPhone cannot play WebM. That is what makes the difference between shit and normal OS.

  13. This is fair by jareth-0205 · · Score: 2

    Having got a Pixelbook to replace my Pixel C, I think this will probably happen. Android has never been ideal on a tablet mostly because the apps haven't taken full advantage of the space. Also the larger screen leads to more web-use, and Android Chrome is quite limiting compared to the desktop version.

    Android apps on ChromeOS fill in the most obvious deficiencies of ChromeOS, ie the lack of decent touch support (try using web Google Sheets with a touch screen, without scroll-flinging it is very odd), and offline support (apps are much more often built to handle intermittent network). It's a strange device, I'll say that, but much more capable than a pure Android tablet.

  14. Tablets are dead by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Android never bothered to properly support tablets and it showed in lousy sales. But tablets overall in decline and frankly Chrome OS isn't that great for touch screens. Nor is Chrome OS even close to having the amount of devices in use as Android. Just not sure what Google is thinking? You start installing Chrome OS on tablets and you basically hurt your Chromebook business model. But at this point I wouldn't buy a Android or Chrome OS tablet. Neither is going to be very good.

  15. You can already multitask by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    And take screenshots. It will have to do a lot more to distinguish itself.

  16. "Gonna" by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Yeah, there's a lot of "gonna" in the tech business.

    Remember when OS/2 was gonna replace Windows (or was it DOS)?
    Remember when that experimental HP WebOS was gonna replace iOS, Symbian, BlackBerry and all the rest?
    Remember when Metro/Modern/Live Tiles was gonna take over every platform?
    Remember when Itanium was gonna be the CPU architecture that took over the entire Intel lineup?
    Remember when Pen Windows was gonna be revolutionary?
    Remember when the Apple Newton was gonna be the bees knees?
    Remember when...

    Well you get the idea. It's fine to have plans and ambitions. Just remember that there are about 10 tech grand announcements for every 3 successful implementations.