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Hawaii Missile Alert Worker Fired, Will Sue State for Defamation (khon2.com)

This week Hawaii finally fired the employee who issued a false missile alert warning to the entire state, while the head of the state's emergency management agency resigned, another official quit, and a fourth was suspended over the incident. But new details also emerged about the incident:
  • The New York Daily News reports that the warning officer missed those words "because someone in the office picked up the receiver instead of hitting the speaker." And he insists that "I'm really not to blame in this. It was a system failure. And I did what I was trained to do. I can't say that I would do anything differently based on what I saw and heard." His lawyer adds that "The place was a circus and they got their scapegoat... All that was missing were clowns and balloons."
  • The fired worker now plans to sue the state of Hawaii for defamation, and possibly also for libel and slander, according to his lawyer, "because they lied about what happened." He also says that his client has already received numerous death threats.

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  1. Not a drill, not his fault by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Insightful

    If it said not a drill, it's not his fault. Fire the person who added "not a drill" to a drill.

  2. It's time... by QuietLagoon · · Score: 4, Insightful

    ... to let the courts, and not public opinion, sort this one out.

    1. Re:It's time... by QuietLagoon · · Score: 2

      ...Last time I went outside on a Saturday, I stepped in some bull shit....

      Then, next time, look up from your phone and watch where you step. :)

    2. Re:It's time... by ripvlan · · Score: 2

      I thought it strange that the HR dept would air so much laundry on this employee's job history. Suggesting he was so very incompetent.

      I also thought it was laughable that Plan-B was the governor logging in to Twitter to set the record straight. Seriously? Oh -- and he couldn't remember his password !!!!! The whole state monitors Twitter?

      Why not send out a second broadcast saying "just kidding" -- or apparently they didn't have a button for that.

      Yes - this one person is not at fault - or at least there's blame to share. There were lots of mistakes along the way and apparently no backup plan. I believe the sharing of his HR history was rather egregious.

  3. fireing just leads to people covering up error and by Joe_Dragon · · Score: 4, Insightful

    firing just leads to people covering up errors and blame passing. or people slowing work down to the point where you need 2-3 people to sign off to get stuff done.

  4. Characterization of Service by CRB9000 · · Score: 5, Insightful

    To avoid issues, government HR briefs supervisors that when commenting on the dismissal of an employee, or providing a reference or confirmation of employment that is is important NOT to provide a characterization of service. In other words you say:

    • Yes, he/she worked here for the time period specified.
    • He/she has been released from service.
    • We are prevented from providing a characterization of service positive or negative.

    The fact they provided, to the press, a characterization of his service, include details about his past issues, the State of Hawaii should probably settle and then brief their Emergency Management folks to keep their &^%*ing mouths shut next time.

    1. Re:Characterization of Service by SlaveToTheGrind · · Score: 3, Informative

      I don't think the State of Hawaii said anything about the employee.

      Drilling down from TFA, it appears the FCC and DoD were the ones that did.

      In fact, this article says, "[t]he state has not identified the worker."

    2. Re:Characterization of Service by CRB9000 · · Score: 2

      In a number of news reports they stated the employee had previous issues with instability, thinking drills were real, and other issues.

  5. Re:First by Dutch+Gun · · Score: 4, Insightful

    I can't believe management felt the need to fire someone over this. I mean, it was a bit of an embarrassing mistake, but it's not like any real damage was done, other than letting everyone know that some procedures needed to be reworked.

    I'd say that this whole firing and subsequent lawsuit is more embarrassing than the original mistake.

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  6. System problem by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Informative

    Sounds like this was a system failure with plenty of culpability at several levels, though it is, in the end, the essential responsibility of the agency head that his agency can do its job. And it appears there were previous symptoms of the systemic problems. It is well known that warning test messages should NOT be worded like a real warning message precisely because it causes confusion. It should be like "in place of this message you would have received a description of the threat..." etc. The test is to test the *delivery* of the message, in which case the message content does not matter other than it should do everything possible to not create the impression of an actual emergency. Tornado sirens, for example, are only tested on clear days.

  7. Re:First by Fly+Swatter · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Some jobs like public safety shouldn't get a second chance. They had ONE job, and failed on multiple levels - the whole department should be replaced and internal policies evaluated.

  8. Re:First by tinkerton · · Score: 2

    it's not like any real damage was done

    Okay, apart from making everybody think for half an hour that they were about to die.

  9. Re:First by SlaveToTheGrind · · Score: 3, Insightful

    but it's not like any real damage was done

    The entire island was running around in terror with nowhere to go for over half an hour before these schlocks finally managed to say "oops, just kidding." Would you require actual blood to be spilled or someone to actually die over the mass panic before you consider it to be "real damage"?

  10. Re:First by Antique+Geekmeister · · Score: 2

    This was a government announcement that scared millions of people, cost time and money for millions as they had to deal with the false alert, and will contribute to mistrust of _real_ announcements of danger. This is also not the employee's first major mistake. If that is not grounds for firing someone, what would be?

    No one apparently died, as they rushed to handle the emergency. But that is happenstance: emergency vehicles getting into place, or phones tied up at emergency services as they deal with the social fallout, are measurable risks for that kind of mistake.

  11. Better him fired ... by Mister+Liberty · · Score: 2

    ...than the missile he erroneously sounded the alarm for.

  12. Re:First by Dutch+Gun · · Score: 5, Insightful

    I'd be more apt to fire the person who put "This is not a drill" in the message when it was clearly a drill.

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  13. Re:First by fahrbot-bot · · Score: 3, Insightful

    it's not like any real damage was done

    Okay, apart from making everybody think for half an hour that they were about to die.

    I'm not sure experiencing that is a bad thing. I've had two near-death experiences in my 54 years - once in a car accident and once from accidentally breathing ammonia + bleach fumes from a bucket I thought was empty. In addition, my wife died of a brain tumor in 2006. Being close to death and dying gives you some perspective on life, living and other people - something many people could use more of.

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  14. Re:fireing just leads to people covering up error by Antique+Geekmeister · · Score: 4, Insightful

    It can be very difficult to fire a union worker without a strong track record of failure. It can also be unfair to fire someone for a single bad mistake if they have years of good productivity, or are under enormous work stress. This is why managers write "recovery plans", to give an employee a chance to improve.

    Also, "The Peter Pinciple" still applies today, especially in unionized work. The book of that name described how people progress and get promoted until they are no longer competent enough to get promoted anymore. Many people have learned to refuse to be demoted back to where they _were_ competent and productive, because it poisons your resume and limits your income.and seniority in workplaces where that matters. I've had to be _very_ careful in my own career to avoid getting promoted to work I'd not do well: it startles many managers when an employee refuses a promotion.

  15. Dear... everyone. by Hallux-F-Sinister · · Score: 5, Insightful

    You do NOT. PUT. THE. WORDS. this is not a drill IN. A. FUCKING. DRILL.

    To the person or persons responsible for firing the guy, if, that is, I had the power to fire them, I would ask the following question: Yes means no, and no means yes. Would you like me to fire you?

    Then I would totally fire them no matter what they said.

    I myself have had to deal with incompetent morons in leadership positions who literally did not know the literal meanings of words they were using, including, yes, literally.

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    1. Re:Dear... everyone. by Solandri · · Score: 3, Insightful
      According to the timeline of what happened, there are two safeguards to prevent something like this from happening.
      • "This is not a drill" is only to be included if it is not a drill.
      • Drills are to be preceded and ended by the phrase "exercise exercise exercise."

      For a false alert to be sent out, both safeguards have to fail. Presumably staff are trained that either the absence of "this is not a drill" or the presence of "exercise exercise exercise" indicates a drill. In other words, it is only real if the broadcast contains the phrase "this is not a drill", AND is not begun nor ended with "exercise exercise exercise."

      The first safeguard failed when a supervisor played the incorrect broadcast to staff - one which included the phrase "this is not a drill." He did however correctly include "exercise exercise exercise" at the beginning and end of the broadcast.

      The second safeguard also failed. The Hawaii Emergency Management Agency fired the employee because they think he ignored the "exercise exercise exercise" in the broadcast. The fired employee claims another employee cut off the phone broadcast before the ending "exercise exercise exercise" so he never heard it.

      I agree they should've waited until after an investigation to fire him. But the inclusion of the phrase "this is not a drill" does not automatically absolve the employee of responsibility for the mistake. The system you're advocating only has a single safeguard, which is a really dumb way to design a system which could potentially incite panic.on a state-wide scale. They correctly designed it with multiple safeguards, and it is possible that the employee ignored the second safeguard, which would in fact make him responsible for the false alert.

    2. Re:Dear... everyone. by Hallux-F-Sinister · · Score: 2

      If we're doing this rigidly, then you're saying that reciting the official warning should cause the operator to issue the test alert. There have to be differences.

      According to the operator's account, the announcement was put on speakerphone after the first "exercise exercise exercise" and cut off before the last. I don't know if it's true, but it's plausible. There was some confusion in the room, as it was shift change (and I'm not faulting having a practice during shift change). Counting on the words before and after the script to show it's a drill is dangerous.

      The checklist can indeed be "call operator, read script...". The drill can contain a somewhat modified script.

      I agree... but another, perhaps better safeguard would be to have the system's OUTPUT looped back so that a (false) warning could NOT be sent out, BEFORE the start of the exercise. I'm pretty sure that's how anyone responsible conducts exercises. If they only have ONE system for alerting the people and therefore can't take it offline for training during the exercise, then that means that if anything goes WRONG with that system, they would have no means of alerting the people and so HOPEFULLY, that's not the case, because that would be ANOTHER, even bigger and more ridiculous problem if it were the case, on top of the ridiculousness we were already treated to.

      Also, to anyone further wanting to weigh-in on whether "exercise exercise exercise" either DOES, or DOES NOT cancel the meaning of "this is not a drill," or vice-versa... the very fact that this point is being argued back and forth is, to my way of thinking, rather a good argument for how fucking stupid it is to have BOTH being used in the same situation. What if, for example, one of the people didn't HEAR the "exercise exercise exercise" part? OR, what if DURING the exercise, (as could theoretically happen,) an ACTUAL, real-world incoming missile (or missiles) is detected? How would YOU take the facility in question OUT of exercise mode, and put them, RAPIDLY, EXPEDITIOUSLY into real-world, not simulation mode? Oh, maybe you might say "THIS IS NOT AN EXERCISE". (In reality, if you had the coolness of character and were sufficiently collected if you just found out there're FOR-REAL not for-play INBOUND MISSILE(S) approaching you, and you didn't now ALSO have to worry about how to get the system out of play mode and back into fight mode, as it were, you MAYBE might say, "ABORT EXERCISE!!! ABORT ABORT ABORT! RESUME NORMAL OPERATIONS! ATTENTION: WE HAVE REAL, ACTUAL, NOT-SIMULATED INBOUND MISSILES REPORTED BY RADAR. THIS IS NOT A DRILL ISSUE ALERTS NOW. I REPEAT, THIS IS NOT A DRILL."

      That does not sound like it happened in this case. It reminds me of the loss of millions of dollars and tens, if not hundreds of thousands or even millions of man-hours of work in the case of the Mars Lander, due to confusion between SI and Imperial (US) units, or at least, that was the culprit they went with publicly. (I'm not meaning to cast doubt on that, but this thing in Hawaii is THAT level of stupid.

      The WHOLE POINT of using the expression "this is not a drill" is to indicate when a situation is real, and not a drill. The way it's being described would be like a couple having rough sex, and it being part of their fantasy to use the safe-word as something to indicate the intensity of the sex, rather than AS A SAFE-WORD. It's stupid and irresponsible, and this could all have been avoided, and what's worse, is not just the embarrassment all around, but that it highlights flaws in some of our systems to others, including adversaries, who could then exploit this for strategic advantage... or maybe just laugh their asses off at us.

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  16. Re:Person screws up, wants compensation go figure by HiThere · · Score: 3, Insightful

    *Did* he screw up? Or did he do precisely what he was supposed to do in the presence of the received messages? "This is not a drill" is not something anyone sensible would add to a drill unless they intended to cause people to believe it was not a drill.

    And *why* wasn't there any way to cancel, override, etc. the message? That's the real totally horrible oversight. Everything else is relatively minor...though I'd sure rake the guy who wrote that script over the coals.

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  17. Re:First by Z00L00K · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Overall this case stinks of bad policy and procedures.

    If there's a drill involving "not a drill" statement then there must also be a safeguard in place to block stuff from coming out. But I agree - anyone stating "not a drill" must also deal with the fact that it can come out.

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  18. Re:fireing just leads to people covering up error by ColdWetDog · · Score: 2

    Dilbert? Is that you?

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  19. Re:First by Impy+the+Impiuos+Imp · · Score: 3, Insightful

    Some jobs like public safety shouldn't get a second chance. They had ONE job, and failed on multiple levels - the whole department should be replaced and internal policies evaluated.

    The test didn't fail. It did what it was supposed to do: reveal problems. Skipping possible lies,

    1. Picking up the phone then realizing it was an alert and putting it on speakerphone loses the initial 3 "drill drill drill" or whatever it was.
    2. If they sent out an ostensibly real alert then realized it was fake, they shouldn't have to dig through layers of officials for half an hour to reach someone authorized to cancel a "real" alert.
    3. Why isn't the drill issuer sitting there watching ready to put a kibosh on it if it went wrong?

    The rest, such as during shift change, is fine as that could actually happen. "Drill not a dril!" is not so useful unless if you're testing if you need a W.O.P.R. to launch nuclear missiles.

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  20. Re:fireing just leads to people covering up error by hey! · · Score: 3, Insightful

    Firing absolutely has to be on the decision tree somewhere, but not near the root of the tree for all the reasons you say. Firing is not a quick fix, except insofar as shielding other people responsible for a problem.

    Given that the people who worked with the button-pusher had doubts about his ability to perform, and that this isn't the first time that employee has failed to distinguish between real and drill emergencies, there's obviously a lot more wrong with the way the agency handles performance issues, as well as with the way this particular drill was conducted. If that's not corrected, it could leave employees gun-shy in a real crisis.

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  21. Re:First by Goragoth · · Score: 4, Insightful

    What also gets me about this whole story is that they apparently didn't have a procedure in place for issuing a "oops, our bad, ignore the last message" message on the system. I mean the ability for an emergency alert to cause a panic is blindingly obvious, and no matter the safety systems in place there is always a chance that a wrong message might be sent out. It shouldn't happen but it can, so there should have been an obvious way to retract erroneous message.

  22. Re:First by StikyPad · · Score: 3, Funny

    People in a panic to leave the point of a thermo nuclear detonation, if it really worked a lot of people should have died and been injured trying to escape it

    Escape it how? It's an island. Surrounded by water. For miles.

    what the fuck are you meant to do with that

    Ideally, get underground.

    light a joint and go out high

    I take it you're already running drills.

  23. Re:First by SlaveToTheGrind · · Score: 2

    Next time, likely less than 1% will take it seriously.

    I take it then you agree real damage was done.