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Android Oreo Passes 1 Percent Adoption After 5 Months, Nougat Finally Takes First Place (venturebeat.com)

According to Google's Platform Versions page, Android 8.0 Oreo mobile operating system finally has 1.1 percent adoption. Like Android Nougat before it, Android Oreo took five months to pass the 1 percent adoption mark. VentureBeat reports: On the bright side, Nougat this month has passed Marshmallow, meaning the second newest Android version is now the most widely used. The latest version of Android typically takes more than a year to become the most-used release, and so far it doesn't look like Oreo's story will be any different. Google's Platform Versions tool uses data gathered from the Google Play Store app, which requires Android 2.2 and above. This means devices running older versions are not included, nor are devices that don't have Google Play installed (such as many Android phones and tablets in China, Amazon's Fire line, and so on). Also, Android versions that have less than 0.1 percent adoption, such as Android 3.0 Honeycomb and Android 2.2 Froyo, are not listed. The two next-oldest Android versions are thus set to drop off the list sometime this year. The Android adoption order now stands as follows: Nougat in first place, Marshmallow in second place, Lollipop in third, KitKat in fourth, Jelly Bean in fifth, Oreo in sixth, ICS in seventh, and Gingerbread in last. All eyes are now on Oreo to see how slowly it can climb the ranks.

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  1. Finally! by dstyle5 · · Score: 4, Funny

    I'm one of the one percent! Kneel before me Nougat deplorables!

  2. Re:Almost half a year .... by idontusenumbers · · Score: 3, Interesting

    There's some evidence to suggest the issue still lies with google:

    https://twitter.com/essential/...

  3. Re:Almost half a year .... by Fly+Swatter · · Score: 2, Insightful

    That is because every major update of android pretty much requires new hardware. Either because they are lazy to support old hardware, don't bother trying to allow major software updates, or just rely on the manufacturer (which is obviously lame).

    Regardless you are pretty much stuck with whatever major revision came with your end product because only new hardware sales drive adoption of these major releases. Android is a make-it-and-forget-it product, it is the epitome of built-in obsolescence.

  4. Is Android so fragmented by rsilvergun · · Score: 4, Interesting

    that passing 1% is a milestone?

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  5. Re:Almost half a year .... by blackpaw · · Score: 2, Insightful

    My Lumia 640 packed it in recently so I tried Android (ZTE 7 Plus, Marshmallow). Dear dog, I hated it so much - didn't give a shit about the apps, and the UI experience was so bad. Found a 950 XL in excellent shape on Gumtree, awesome phone and a pleasure to use. Calls, texts, messaging, email, browsing all work perfectly.

    And *still* getting regular updates from MS.

  6. Re:Almost half a year .... by Zaelath · · Score: 5, Insightful

    That's an entertaining story, but they're still producing updates for the 4 year old Nexus 5, if you can find one that doesn't boot loop.

    There's a string of manufacturers that abandon their products, looking at you Samsung, but that's not Google's problem.

    Just as soon as you find an off-brand Apple phone, we can make some kind of "support life-cycle" comparison.

  7. Re:Almost half a year .... by alvinrod · · Score: 4, Insightful

    I think the issue lies with Android not really having any one entity fully in charge or at least with enough power to dictate terms. Device manufacturers certainly don't mind killing updates, especially since it helps them sell new devices. The carriers also want you to buy a new device so that they can lock you into monthly contract for another two years. Google certainly would prefer that whatever phone you're using has an updated version of Android, but they're not going to make more money as a result as their profitability doesn't depend on selling devices so there's not enough financial motive for Google to really press the issue. They probably care even less because if none of the other manufacturers are selling devices that have upgrades readily available, it makes it possible for Google to carve out a tiny bit of extra business for themselves by being the ones to sell the devices that do get those speedy updates. Only a tiny percentage of Android customers really care about stuff like that, so the other manufacturers aren't going to get angry at Google or feel threatened by them selling those devices.

  8. Re: Almost half a year .... by julian67 · · Score: 4, Informative

    My 2012 Samsung Galaxy Note II, a flagship model in its time, hasn't received a version update since 2014 (it runs KitKat). However it still got a security/stability firmware upgrade in 2017, and does get "Security Policy" updates (guessing these are SELinux changes). This isn't ideal for anyone who wants new features, but 5 years of security and stability patches is not so bad.

  9. Still selling phones with Android 5 by dicobalt · · Score: 3, Funny

    With trillions of unpatched holes. Maybe one day they will invent Windows Update.

    1. Re:Still selling phones with Android 5 by vlueboy · · Score: 2

      With trillions of unpatched holes. Maybe one day they will invent Windows Update.

      I bought a gift a year ago and it was even worse with tablets on physical stores or Amazon. The asymptotic Android 4.4 version apparently just dropped off the map, but it dragged results down for years. Most worrysome is that its old Dalvik runtime is dog slow at best, and infuriating under load. 5 makes things better, but I wouldn't bet on finding it for cheap.

      A few hours ago tonight I coincidentally ran into https://www.cnet.com/topics/ta...
      where Samsung tablet's video says "best one it's ever made". It's a serious 500 bucks which I find offensive after having purchased other Samsungs for $200 before. That is the golden price point for Android in my eyes. Despite the 500 bucks, the OS is declared to be 7.

      The Google tablet isn't reported with a specific version, so a search led to finding 6.0 and 7 https://arstechnica.com/gadget... (we can assume auto-updates given that Google's name is involved but it's almost like 8.0 wasn't even a dream in the reviewer's mind.) More likely the builds just don't exist yet.

      The Huawei tablet is only on 6. These are reviews that will hang around for the whole year, so it is worrysome that they don't even mention 8.0 even though it's been available on Browserstack's test suite for several months.

      It's odd that the cheap $125 Chinese smartphone I bought around September, despite its serious storage planned obsolescence, came with 7.1 when so much premium stuff out there was still on 6 (and serious offerings already had version 8). It's a pain just number-wise, and features even within the same Android build are shamefully inconsistent across manufacturers... this causes many people to go see things as "iPhone versus non-iPhone" if they are ever disappointed.

    2. Re:Still selling phones with Android 5 by tlhIngan · · Score: 2

      The asymptotic Android 4.4 version apparently just dropped off the map, but it dragged results down for years.

      That's because Google has officially stopped supporting Android 4.4. The last monthly security update that supported Android 4.4 was September 2017.

      October 2017 deprecated Android 5.0 security updates. Android 5.1 remains supported for now.

      Android 4.4 and 5.0 security updates can be backported, but that's it. Google does not support those versions of Android anymore.

      So yes, those old Androids are slowly being deprecated.

  10. Re:Almost half a year .... by Zaelath · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Why would I care? If you buy a Apple phone you get updates, if you buy a Google phone you get updates, otherwise you need to be talking to whoever makes your phone. If your smart TV running embedded Linux doesn't get updates, are you moaning at Linus?