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Pornhub Is Banning AI-Generated 'Deepfakes' Porn Videos (vice.com)

Posted by BeauHD on from the not-on-my-watch dept.

On Tuesday, Pornhub told Motherboard that it considers deepfakes to be nonconsensual porn and that it will ban these videos. "Deepfakes" is a community originally named after a Redditor who enjoys face-swapping celebrity faces onto porn performers' bodies using a machine learning algorithm. Motherboard reports: "We do not tolerate any nonconsensual content on the site and we remove all said content as soon as we are made aware of it," a spokesperson told me in an email. "Nonconsensual content directly violates our TOS [terms of service] and consists of content such as revenge porn, deepfakes or anything published without a person's consent or permission." Pornhub previously told Mashable that it has removed deepfakes that are flagged by users. Pornhub's position on deepfakes is similar to statements made by Discord and Gfycat, and in line with its existing terms of service, which prohibit content that "impersonates another person or falsely state or otherwise misrepresent your affiliation with a person."

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  1. There's no quality control on Internet porn by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Interesting

    Judging by how often a search yields videos that have none of the tags or anything to do with the search, other than having sexual content, I don't see how they can pretend to give a crap about this.

    It will be allowed, and tagged as something completely different, just like all the other videos uploaded.

    1. Re:There's no quality control on Internet porn by nonBORG · · Score: 4, Insightful

      To take issue with the subject at hand. This is a free speech issue but you still cannot slander. This I would put in the same category. As to the rest of your comments, best ignored (enough political tainting of threads already.)

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    2. Re:There's no quality control on Internet porn by xonen · · Score: 2, Insightful

      Example :

      Trump is bad for just about everything, economy, environment, people etc. People want to argue about this even though it is obvious.

      Javascript is the best scripting language. People still want to pretend it is terrible because it took over because it was so good.

      I'm sorry but your examples are not as `obvious` as you think. Opinions differ, for a reason.

      I'd not vote for Trump, but i also don't think everything he does is wrong. And actually, how he is pictured here in Europe is only testifying non-objective press.
      Same for javascript. It's popular because it filled a niche, and came at the right time at the right place. Apart that it indeed is a horrible language.

      Things are not always perfect. Things not always have to be perfect. And any/most downsides have an upside. Trump got chosen cause a majority voted so. Javascript got popular despite a truckload of flaws. Climate change is politically abused as argument by all sides. Money and subsidies gets wasted while civilians have to pay up with unneeded taxes, while leaving the real big polluters untouched in the name of economy. Green electricity is often a farce and only consists of purchased certificates. It is very hard to find an objective truth, and surely it's less 'obvious' than you pretend it to be.

      2 off-topic cents.

      On-topic: they (pronhub) better not try to be holier than the pope or they'll lose a lot of visitors.

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    3. Re:There's no quality control on Internet porn by Dog-Cow · · Score: 2

      US citizens don't vote for POTUS. They vote for people who vote for POTUS. The actual voters for POTUS picked Trump. Just because Liberals don't understand the system under which they are governed does not make them right.

    4. Re:There's no quality control on Internet porn by Mashiki · · Score: 2

      What? Of course there is. Everyone sensible holds the opinion that Trump is a bumbling buffoon, but it remains a matter of opinion.

      Kinda throws your "everyone sensible" right out the window, maybe you meant to say "everyone who's a partisan hack" or something along those lines. Really, your post isn't any different then the people who say "What Trump said, is really really bad!" but when they're shown that it was say Hillary or Obama who said it suddenly panic when their bubble is popped. Or when someone is given a viewpoint/statement that they agree with, and suddenly discover that it's Trump who said it. That they again panic as their bubble is popped.

      Funny how that works, and how some people are so damned wrapped up in their derangement that they only agree with what they're being told.

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    5. Re:There's no quality control on Internet porn by angel'o'sphere · · Score: 2

      The people (electors) once could vote as they saw fit, now they are required to vote like their voters wanted. They get removed and replaced if they vote different.

      And I doubt being a liberal has anything to do with knowledge. Or does your lack of it make you a redneck?

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    6. Re:There's no quality control on Internet porn by cayenne8 · · Score: 2

      The electoral college is a disaster for a democracy.

      It is actually a VICTORY for the United States...otherwise you'd have only a few states on either coast directing how the entire country is ruled and managed, and that is NOT fair and is not how the US was set up.

      You are a citizen of your state first, and a citizen of the United States second.

      With this country being so geographically spread out...each state has its own unique needs and views of the people and they need to be proportionally represented.

      The nice thing about all this is...it allows the states to all be somewhat different if they choose. One size does not fit all....and if you don't like how your state runs things, then you can move to one that houses people more in your line of thinking.

      The electoral college and make up of congress reflects this.

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    7. Re:There's no quality control on Internet porn by avandesande · · Score: 2

      Think about what all of the stuff you don't see on these sites (like ever) and the idea that there is "no quality control" appears ludicrous.

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    8. Re:There's no quality control on Internet porn by porges · · Score: 3, Funny

      the subject at hand

      I see what you did there.

    9. Re:There's no quality control on Internet porn by Darinbob · · Score: 2

      Do you consider those old school Republicans, people like John McCain, Jeff Flake, George Bush (both), and so forth, to be the real Republicans, or that the new upstarts from the tea party to be the real Republicans?

      Remember, that majority of Republicans were opposed to Trump during the primaries, and a few started backtracking when Trump won, and even more backtracked after Trump won the general election, and even more followed him when they realized he was going to help with their dream wishlist. Backtracking like this for political gain is not really integrity.

    10. Re:There's no quality control on Internet porn by Rakarra · · Score: 2

      Really? So what does that make of someone like Trudeau in Canada, or Nanci Pelosi(Dem), or Keith "ethnostate are great" Ellision(dem leadership) for example. I realize that by looking at the leadership and high-leadership in the opposing party has already set an incredibly low bar,

      They do not set a very high bar, but they set it quite a bit higher than Trump does. I'm a conservative who stays far away from the Republican Party, because they sold their souls and integrity for an election victory. I have a lot more admiration for Bill Crystal or a Never-Trumper than I do a fraudster.

      it seems, that by his own actions he's managed to accomplish more then Obama did and actually went through the house and senate instead of imposing rules, regulations and unconstitutional orders by EO's.

      The only things Trump has accomplished, besides the Tax Bill, has been through the executive action. Many of those were also rejected for their illegality, but hey, they score political points with his base!

  2. Re:Putting obamas head on trumps body by sheramil · · Score: 2

    Just for the lulz :)

    In order to do this, you would need a porn video of President Trump. Do you happen to have any? Perhaps urolagnia themed?

  3. It took long enough! by hyades1 · · Score: 5, Funny

    I am profoundly relieved, because that nasty Scarlett Johansson person will be unable to post videos featuring my face grafted onto the bodies of her lovers. The chance that my dignity might be outraged in this way been worrying me ever since "deepfakes" became a thing.

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  4. Just call it what it is by DeplorableCodeMonkey · · Score: 3, Insightful

    You are using an algorithm to appropriate the likeness of another person without their consent. The wording they've chosen, intentionally or not, makes it sound more like rape when it's really just a matter of defamation and IP infringement.

    The need to shoehorn every sexual matter into "consent" to determine the moral qualities is like how everyone goes "muh dumbocracy" over everything they don't like that a legitimately elected government does. These terms get so overloaded with rhetorical baggage that they become meaningless.

    1. Re:Just call it what it is by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Interesting

      Not entirely sure it would be considered IP infringement if you are using photos in public domain or that you've taken yourself.
      The porn video used is probably copyrighted, but if you use your own amateur footage then you have the rights on it.

      Defamation is possibly to go for, but if the person already has pornographic content out there then it will be hard to argue that the new video caused any harm.
      You would have to argue that it would be shameful if people got the impression that you had sex with the other actor or that there is something appalling with the substitute actors body or something.

      The safest bet is if the rights holder of the source content forbids the usage.

      What I don't get is how Pornhub could possibly enforce the ban.
      Yes, they can ban videos that ar tagged with a celebrity, but that will block both AI-edited content as well as real footage.
      The problem is that it isn't just big celebrities faces that are used. People use faces of small time streamer with 100 - 1000 viewers.
      There are probably a whole bunch of clips where some asshat used the face of a school mate or an ex and uses the content for blackmail or for the lulz.
      To be able to sort that out Purnhub needs to match the videos against all other videos and that assumes that the clips used aren't amateur porn that haven't been wildly spread.

      To some extent we have to accept that video editing have reached the point where photo editing were.
      Previously it was expensive to fake a video so it would only be cost effective for political reasons. (Getting permission to mine in a natural preservation area is something worth spending a couple of hundred millions on so you can both create a fake video supporting your cause and bribe a politician to support you.)
      This isn't something we can create laws to protect us from. We need to learn that video evidence is as reliable as photo evidence.

  5. Re:ToS by geekmux · · Score: 4, Insightful

    I love how every shitty company and their dog always point to their ToS like it's the word of god.. As if anybody gives a tiny rat's ass about them.

    A pair of handcuffs are harmless...until you find them on your wrists.

    Same goes for ToS. No one gives a tiny rat's ass about them...until you find yourself standing next to a lawyer in a courtroom spending thousands defending your ignorance regarding their word of god.

  6. You can't stop it.. by sTERNKERN · · Score: 2

    You just give the opportunity for others to make their fortune with such a site that promotes these thing.. .There is a big demand for such a thing and it is going to be an easy task in the near future to create and use such a tool.

  7. Strange by nospam007 · · Score: 3, Interesting

    They have had and still have 'Celebrity' videos for years.
    Stolen videos are OK but fake ones aren't?

    https://www.pornhub.com/video?...