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Chinese Companies Hunt for AI Talent at American Conference (nikkei.com)

Chinese internet players have flocked to a research conference on artificial intelligence here, fighting to attract students from their home country who received a top-notch education in the U.S. From a report: Chinese is the language of choice among 34 company and group booths occupying prime real estate near the entrance to the Association for the Advancement of Artificial Intelligence conference, opened Friday. Native speakers represent companies including virtual mall operator Alibaba Group Holding and Tencent Holdings, which runs the communication platform WeChat. They woo students, mainly of Chinese origin, with descriptions of comfortable jobs or invite them to attend parties. The intense competition reflects the great strides China has made in the field. This year, the AAAI received research submissions in record numbers -- at least 3,800. Entries from China increased 57% on the year to a level roughly even with those from the U.S. Moreover, Chinese researchers were involved with about 60% of the research posters on display -- a privilege given to selected papers. The research poster exhibition was sponsored by Chinese internet company Baidu.

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  1. Yeah by Ryanrule · · Score: 1

    You giving me a high level party membership? No. THEN FUCK OFF.

    1. Re:Yeah by JaredOfEuropa · · Score: 1

      Play your cards right, you might actually get it. Quite a few engineers and scientists in Chinese politics. As opposed to us in the west: we get politicians who can talk, talk, talk all day, speak with authority, answer any question or glibly evade it, exude confidence and leadership... but with anything of substance ever leaving their mouths or even their brains. SLight off tpoic: that's what I liked about the press conference that Elon Musk gave. The guy is not a great public speaker and was frequently a bit flustered and lost for words... which, given the kind of people who don't possess those "deficiencies", speaks well of him.

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    2. Re:Yeah by DaMattster · · Score: 1

      Jesus you are delusional. China is a dictatorship.

      Actually, you're wrong. China is a Communist oligarchy.

    3. Re:Yeah by RightwingNutjob · · Score: 1

      That's because in the US, who's in government is largely inconsequential. Our society is dominated by private decisionmaking rather than public policy. So long as the windbags do anything egregious or intrusive or otherwise offensive, they will get reelected. Whether it's democrats or republicans in office in DC or the state capitol doesn't really affect where you can live, what jobs you can work, or whether the supermarket is stocked with food.

    4. Re: Yeah by kaatochacha · · Score: 1

      And yet, the discussion is China. Oh, donuts may be mostly round, and Elon Musk may have launched a car into space: these are true, but have nothing to do with what we're talking about.
      You sound like my cousin. He could make a discussion on the merits of sous vide cooking somehow a diatribe against the US.

  2. Hoho by fubarrr · · Score: 1

    Laowai shopping never went out of fashion with Chinese dot com crowd

  3. Re:education in the U.S. should be USA first and n by stabiesoft · · Score: 1

    If only it was that simple. The problem is that US students go to college for the experience, not the education. I can't recall a single parent even caring about the grades their kid made. Most don't even know what grades their kids are making. As long as their child is happy, they are happy.

  4. BTW by fubarrr · · Score: 1

    BTW, with all that AI research bandoozle going within Baidu, they can't even beat Google search accuracy from 10 years ago...

    I doubt they will ever improve, no matter how much Ivy league grads they hire, unless they disadopt that cargo-cultish view of the industry they got from the Silicon Valley.

    The few SV companies that do perform well, do so exactly because they refuse to go along the local koolaid culture

  5. Re:massive cluelessness by RightwingNutjob · · Score: 1

    Ukraine, Syria (start to about 2015-6), the India/Pakistan wars over Kashmir, whatever the hell is going in CAR right now, Uganda civil war in the 90s, in fact just about all the wars that aren't Iraq or Afghanistan we've got nothing to do with. Try harder.

  6. Small wonder by nospam007 · · Score: 3, Interesting

    Chinese students believe in artificial intelligence while US students believe in intelligent design.

    1. Re:Small wonder by TheRaven64 · · Score: 3, Insightful

      This story isn't really news. Chinese companies have been turning up at the top computer science conferences (not just AI) for years and recruiting. So have US companies, though they've been doing it longer. It might have been news 10 years ago when companies like Huawei first started appearing at the recruitment desks, but it's been going on so long now that the only way that it pretends to be news is that someone has noticed that AI conferences are treated like the rest of computer science now.

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  7. Re:education in the U.S. should be USA first and n by sit1963nz · · Score: 1

    Its is, but there is simply not enough smart Americans around.

    Hell when about 7% of American adults think chocolate milk comes from brown cows... and captain Covefefe thinks he "like a smart person", you just know you are in trouble.

    And not everything invented in the USA has been invented by an American.

    If you get rid of all the smart people, soon you will be just left with the stupid ones.

  8. Re:massive cluelessness by volodymyrbiryuk · · Score: 1

    You really live up to your username.

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  9. My experience with Chinese grad students by RightwingNutjob · · Score: 4, Interesting

    here in the US at a top-5 engineering program about 8 years ago.

    A third of them are bright and chipper but too obsequious to learn well. Embarrassed to ask for help, and all too quick to waste time praising your intelligence when they do. Go off to nowhere for weeks at a time, and then present a bunch of nonsense because they didn't acknowledge the limits of their own knowledge and just threw everything at the wall. We all have these limits, but most of us from here who make it to research-heavy grad schools have the good sense to ask questions based on those limits instead of trying to hide them and hoping for the best.

    Another third is here on vacation. They've got connections back home, which is how they scored their spot abroad, and they view grad school as subsidized playtime to take trips and go shopping instead of buckling down and working. They've already got a sweet lined up back home, and their stint in the US is a box to check off. Not just Chinese, I've seen some Indians fall into this category too. Not many Americans. Americans don't tend to go to grad school for vacation.

    The last third is comparable to the bulk of American students. Some are better than others, some are worse but they're there to work.

    So whose more likely to bite on the shiny back home being offered at these recruitment events? Probably not that last third.

    1. Re:My experience with Chinese grad students by RightwingNutjob · · Score: 1

      For the purpose of my argument, which was to assert the limited yield from these sorts of recruiting efforts, I have just the right number of categories. I don't understand why you'd be agree about it, AC, unless I've struck a nerve with my less than flattering description of people (plural) I've met, worked with, and watched operate over several years.

    2. Re:My experience with Chinese grad students by RightwingNutjob · · Score: 1

      No, for all you know it's the opposite of "ignorant," which is to say "well-informed." Probably through first-hand experience.

    3. Re:My experience with Chinese grad students by kaatochacha · · Score: 1

      and yet, he's signing his comments, while yours are just AC.
      Like mine.
      Which mean nothing.

  10. Re:Emigration easier now by RightwingNutjob · · Score: 1

    Evidence?

  11. Re:education in the U.S. should be USA first and n by RightwingNutjob · · Score: 1

    Experience is the education. Experience of life among engineering students and engineering professors prepares you to experience the rest of your life among engineers.

  12. Re:education in the U.S. should be USA first and n by thinkwaitfast · · Score: 1

    My parents stopped caring about me when I was 18. HS grades, maybe. 18, you're an adult now. Deal with your own problems.

  13. Re:education in the U.S. should be USA first and n by 93+Escort+Wagon · · Score: 2

    education in the U.S. should be USA first and not being more open to higher paying international students.

    At the university where I work, there is a push from various groups (including faculty) to admit MORE international graduate students simply because they bring in more money. The reasoning is - while we are supposed to be prioritizing in-state applicants, over the past few decades the state has drastically cut the overall percentage of the university's budget which it funds... so why should we continue to follow rules which were set when the state paid the majority of the university's operating budget?

    Note: I'm not arguing this is good or bad... just that it is a thing.

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  14. Re:education in the U.S. should be USA first and n by thinkwaitfast · · Score: 1

    Most milk comes from Holstein cows, ~7% of which are brown.

  15. where is Sarah Conner? by Thud457 · · Score: 2

    "The Capitalists will sell us the rope by which we will hang them." -- 6 Lenin

    Wait, I already used that one regarding Facebook/Twitter.

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  16. Re:massive cluelessness by RightwingNutjob · · Score: 1

    So arms sales a few years in and arms embargoes to combatants are having our fingers in the war? OK. Sure. Hell, I bet there's an Intel or AMD chip somewhere in the North Korean satellite launch control room. That's tantamount to building their missiles for them with our own hands! Ditto for the Iranian nuclear program.

  17. Re:massive cluelessness by RightwingNutjob · · Score: 1

    How much does this kind of trolling pay? I bet it doesn't pay that much, otherwise it would be of higher quality. It might even include some copy-paste talking points instead of silly word games.

  18. Brain Drain by Ol+Olsoc · · Score: 3, Interesting
    Brain Drain is beginning.At least one of the parties is actively anti- knowledge, and anti science.

    And vehemently anti immigrant. Hey that's all right . Money and Jesus are all we need.

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    1. Re:Brain Drain by RightwingNutjob · · Score: 1

      Anti-science? Remind us again how many genders there are.

      Anti-knowledge? Remind us who exactly has been chasing academics down with baseball bats?

      Anti-immigrant? Plenty of immigrants consistently vote for border enforcement and deportation of fence-hoppers.

      Try again.

    2. Re:Brain Drain by Ol+Olsoc · · Score: 1

      Anti-science? Remind us again how many genders there are.

      There are only two. Male, and female. There are some intergender people, but if you have trouble figuring out what is what - have them drop trou, and do an inspection

      Anti-knowledge?

      Using nutjobs is not a very good tactic of trying to smear anyone who isn't a Republican. Both parties have nutjobs. But just so you know, here are Republicans that have been elected, therefore are supported by the mainstream Republican party. Whack-a-doodles are not in firm control of the Democrats. Let us look at a few of these people have to say: https://www.npr.org/2011/09/07...

      But then, your little diversion isn't my point at all. If Ron Paul doesn't believe in evolution, or Rick Santorum believes that the world was created exactly as in Genisis 1, well I could hardly give a rat's ass. If you want to believe the sun rotates around the earth, or is a burning lump of coal, or that somehow enough water rained out of the sky to cover the entire earth in 40 days from sea level to the top of Everest, (do the math on that) and that the animals in Australia swam to the middle east across the ocean to avoid drowning, well, I support that.

      But making policy on all of that is demonstrably anti-science, and it is exactly mainstream Republican dogma. The outliers like John Huntsman are exactly that - the outlier- the exception that proves the rule. Meanwhile, we need to settle if Genesis 1 or 2 is the correct order of creation.

      And if some left wing doofus wants to declare that there are an infinite number of genders, or that crystal harmonics rule the universe, the same holds. I am pro science, not pro policy. And right now, the team that is in power, the team that controls what happens is not. And just as in other anti-science countries, a brain drain will occur.

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    3. Re:Brain Drain by RightwingNutjob · · Score: 1

      Rick Santorum hasn't held an elected office in twelve years. He lost that office after the people of Pennsylviania, the same people that voted for both Trump and Obama, had enough with his theatrics. The grandstanding over Terri Schiavo's body is what did it for most people. I lived in PA at the time, and I voted for him out of spite for the Dems, but I held my nose doing it.

      And if you think the craziest thing about Ron Paul is creationism...well OK.

      Bottom line: people vote for extremists all the time. Sometimes polar opposites. Life isn't binary, but most American elections are.

    4. Re:Brain Drain by neo-mkrey · · Score: 2

      I think you meant to say coal and Jesus.

    5. Re:Brain Drain by kaatochacha · · Score: 1

      You know, I've been thinking about this, in my admitedly limited capacity. It seems everyone I know is constantly holding their nose and voting for someone they mostly disagree with. i think if we can get past this, we may find a solution.

    6. Re:Brain Drain by Ol+Olsoc · · Score: 1

      I think you meant to say coal and Jesus.

      My bad!

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      The shepherds did so well protecting the flock that the sheep no longer believed that wolves existed.
  19. Re:Emigration easier now by RightwingNutjob · · Score: 1

    So you can't cite any? Or say anything without making up whole new insult words? WTF is a 'fuckstick' exactly? Is it some sort of sex toy?

  20. Intro by arjun+dmkt · · Score: 1

    Nice artilces