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51 Percent of Financial Services Companies Believe Existing Tech is Holding Them Back (betanews.com)
An anonymous reader shares a report: Legacy technology can be a major obstacle to digital transformation projects and, according to a new survey of financial services technology decision makers carried out for business consultancy Janeiro Digital, almost 51 percent say existing technology is holding back innovation. Three of the biggest roadblocks are seen as lack of support for change (34 percent), legacy technology and infrastructure (31.6 percent) and a lack of in-house technical skill (29.5 percent). As a consequence 23 percent of respondents believe their company is behind in digital transformation compared to others in the industry. Only 47 percent are currently implementing new technologies, with 12.6 percent wanting to do so but not having started. That leaves 40 percent not innovating which could see them lose out in a world where consumers want better, faster financial products.
Blame you're implementation of them. Improperly trained Bosses and ingrained static procedures often are the reason the tech you have isn't working for you.
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holding them back. See what they do there?
And now they are complaining because their infrastructure has become "old" and difficult to maintain. Sounds to me as if they just want to blame something else for the bad business decisions they made.
They’re the source of their own problem. Whenever they manage to hire brilliant people, they hold them back with arcane process and lengthy byzantine procedures (mostly enacted to internally cover the bosses’ asses).
Instead of complaining about legacy tech "holding them back", maybe these "financial service" companies should invest in some better tech instead of using those record profits for stock buybacks and bonuses to C-level management. You've been eating out on the backs of taxpayers all through this last decade of the government giving you free money. Maybe it's time to do something that won't, you know, bring down the fucking economy again.
Just a thought.
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Just more crap. They state lots of exact percentage numbers, but talk 100% vague about "legacy technologies". Please define "legacy technology".
And please be very specific about 1) what you're using now, 2) what / how you're being limited, and 3) what the new advanced world-saving technology is and how it will solve all of your (perceived) problems.
Then I will tell you about how much productivity you'll lose while people 1) sit in "training" classes, 2) have problems opening up that old document, .xls, etc., and 3) how these "new technologies" actually slow us down.
Case in point: a year or so ago I "upgraded" this very computer to Win7 from XP. XP was great because I could click on the lower-right network icon and get right to "properties". Now I have to click more times, go through several windows, etc. Time wasted. Stupid. Going backwards we are.
I used to work for a finance company deploying and automating the deployment of finance software. There's a couple I know of. Talisys out in Denver is one, but the 800 lb gorilla is a piece of software called Beta. It's freaking ancient. Like, core parts still in use today are from the 1970s. I think they've written some API front ends for it, but you have to pay through the nose for every feature, and especially for the fancy features. Beta was written... back in the 1970s perhaps? It doesn't lend itself to modern development methods very well. But it works and has a solid, proven track record, which is exactly what risk adverse finance companies like, especially when they are signing four and five nine uptime SLAs. Talisys is a little newer, developed in the early (1992?) 1990s and came to market around 2002 as production ready, but it's still based on 1998 era technology and were crawling in to the modern age offering Windows Server 2012 R2 support in 2015. There was actually a two year gap between when WS 2003 microsoft windows extended service support ended and when they supported a newer version of windows (2012 R2) and yes you read that right some big (not huge) companies are running financial software on top of Windows.
Other financial technology companies like Robinhood are written cloud-first and cloud-native with APIs in languages like Python and Go and Ruby and what have you. They're just going to eat up these old companies as their overhead costs are much lower and their code better documented and aligned more closely with modern programming practices. Their most modern competitors are running windows software designed in the 1990s. It's ripe for disruption and companies like Robinhood are absolutely going to grind these old companies in to a fine paste in the next ten years.
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...their unwillingness to invest in upgrading it, because it will affect the bottom line in the short term.
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So a consulting company held a survey and found that 51% of companies believe that legacy technology is the biggest hurtle they face. That's good news for this consulting company that sells "solutions" to that problem. Oddly enough, my banker thinks I need a credit card and that car salesman insists that my old (2007) car is about to fall apart and I should buy a new one.
Legacy technology and technical debt is a problem that is often overlooked and not budgeted for because it won't affect the stock price this quarter. Still, forgive me if I don't believe that this survey accurately outlines the problems that companies actually have to this degree.
Their definition of "Innovation" is ripping more people off faster with financial shell games. Anything that impedes the "financial services" sector from "innovating" is a good idea.
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(OK, in all seriousness...if they're talking about mainframes and COBOL underpinning almost everything they do, I might agree.) This just sounds like a study by a consulting firm [[looks-- oh yes, it is!]] planting the seeds of doubt in executives' heads to get the purse strings loosened. Traditional companies are totally in Fear of Missing Out mode and the consulting companies are cashing in on that.
there are rules about how they change their tech to keep them from pulling all sorts of tricks and shenanigans with their software. They're hoping to make those rules go away. Believe me, you do not want this. Yeah, you'll get your new tech, but you'll get an unstable financial system and a crash that makes 2008 look like a happy memory.
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What consumers/customers want (even if they don't know how to pronounce it) from financial products is:
So, in other words, not to have to deal with financial institutions at all.
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And they also complain that they have a lack of in-house technical skill. The longer you work with your technology that has become old, the more skilled you will become at using it. Changing it too often just leads to chaos.
Unless, what they meant was that they had a lack of *IN-HOUSE* technical skill, in which case, stop outsourcing it!
Innovation is not an annual goal to achieve.
Innovation is a response to an unmet need or a pain point.
Innovation how you respond to that legacy roadblock: avoiding it, finding a better way, or removing the need for it altogether.
Those that report tech IS the roadblock aren't going to Innovate anything.
They're gonna keep complaining like this until someone makes a computer that will learn to use itself. Then they will complain that it isn't fast enough.
Consultancy specializing in "digital transformation" (i.e., popular new buzzword) does self-serving survey that miraculously finds that their services are needed.
I especially like the finding that 29% of companies are whining about not having the needed skills in-house. I predict that the survey did not ask companies whether they were investing in any training for their IT staff and, if they had, the responses would range from "Hell, no!" or "No" to "Huh? What is this `training' thing you asked about?"
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I'm not much of an expert in finance, but I know a fair amount about IT, and I'd say it's a safe bet that crappy technology, legacy tech, and vendor lock-in is holding back a lot of efficiency and innovation.
I mean, technology in general is adding a lot of innovation and efficiency. For sure. But I see a lot of businesses depending on some weird custom-built application that was built in the '90s and doesn't support any OS past Windows XP. I see a lot of simple, common problems going completely unaddressed, while all the computing talent is focused on building the next crappy Snapchat clone. Microsoft seems intent on using all of their expertise on forcing advertising down everyone's throat. Apple is just making things thinner and lighter without making them more useful or reliable. The FOSS community is so wrapped up in everyone reinventing their own wheel, and so you end up with a bunch of half-finished clunky wheels.
It kind of makes me regret that I gave up programming, because maybe I could fix some of these problems. Of course, if I hadn't given up programming, I'd probably have just ended up being yet another person trying to develop a Snapchat competitor rather than fixing real problems.
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The financial services companies that is. The people that came closest to actual understanding are probably in jail, in non-extradition treaty countries, retired or dead.
Tech isnâ(TM)t going to save those that remain.
51% of Financial companies are too cheap to upgrade their systems.
The real problem is not existing products destroying innovation.
The real problem is patent hoarding destroying the ability to innovate altogether.
Go ahead. Try and invent something. I dare you.
Ask a blockchain proponent/developer in the finance space what the difference between their precious blockchain project and a checksum function is. If they can explain it they are entitled to an opinion on this stuff. 99.99999% of them cant. The vast bulk of the people working in financial innovation space wouldnt know innovation if it bit them in the you know where. The industry's big move to blockchain is primarily them using blockchain for checksum and version control functionality. Oh, what an innovation.....
I deal with tech a lot where I work, an instantly recognizable financial business.
Our core transaction processing systems run COBOL. When your Python app can settle as few trillion transactions nightly with deadlines met within minutes and downtime measured in seconds per year, present it. Someone will listen.
The stuff I deal with daily now uses Cassandra for a db backend, all is hosted within LAMP stacks (we said goodbye to WebSphere a while ago), and is tolerating all major browsers for internal and external users. Our constraints aren't tech, they are resources; we decide to support a certain range of demand, and so size the systems according to budget. When our users begin complaining, we will resize.
I've noticed a bunch of internal apps moved to interesting containers, and using two- or three-factor authentication. Our security methods treat employees as strangers, and internal systems as threats. Nothing is trusted until it is authenticated, carefully. This security problem is the source of much of the apparent lack of innovation in the industry, as we where I work are a top 50 target. Maybe top 10, we have not been told of a breach. We spend as much on testing our security as we do on the security.
Our single biggest repository is on a custom Linux system, some our own software. It handles the volume you would associate with Google. It has to be secure.
And we of course have document storage, but that's on old stuff based on Wang systems, which you cannot outperform yet. No you cannot.
Yet we are faced with demand for flexibility, new and innovative solutions to new problems, and creative products. We've delivered a blockchain based international settlement system with a respected partner, at the same time as we've spun off a product that made all the sense in the world but didn't sell and are turning off one that just isn't working for anyone.
A previous CIO lamented that a third of our projects failed. That's actually pretty good in the business world at large. But it's really not good enough. And new tech by itself will not do it. Better planning, better management, and better infrastructure will. And we are building those. I can name a few competitors that are clearly not, and I relish the opportunities we have to drink their milkshakes.
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Three of the biggest roadblocks are seen as
lack of support for change (34 percent),
legacy technology and infrastructure (31.6 percent)
and a lack of in-house technical skill (29.5 percent).
Item number 1 is a symptom of item number 2. Item number 2 is a symptom of item number 3. Item number 3 is a symptom of outsourcing everything to India.
You get what you pay for.
"That leaves 40 percent not innovating which could see them lose out in a world where consumers want better, faster financial products".
Actually, it turns out that consumers want a good life; a happy, healthy family and friends; interesting work that (ideally) helps others; respect and appreciation; healthy, tasty food and drink; plenty of interesting exercise and sporting activities; enough money to enjoy all those things...
"Better, faster financial products" come absolutely nowhere on the list of things that sane, sensible, well-balanced consumers want.
I am sure that there are many other solipsists out there.
a lack of in-house technical skill (29.5 percent)
It's a free market. Keep bumping up the offer until you get what you want. If the market isn't working for you then you're not trying hard enough.
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They have not been paying or hiring technical talent for years. They do not listen to us when we describe proper architecture and instead insist we use insane technologies like .net instead of javascript for web applications. They underpay us, hell I've been working almost my entire career being paid the same as a fry dipping teenager at mcdonalds and yet creating software that they couldn't hope to find or create any other way.
Then they insult us by hiring foreigners who quite frankly just don't have the chops to do the work properly.
Companies in north america need to get their heads out of their asses, listen to their technical team and give us the resources and time to create the systems they need properly.
...And they also complain that they have a lack of in-house technical skill. The longer you work with your technology that has become old, the more skilled you will become at using it....
Unless those who have the technical skills start retiring. (think: COBOL)
The technology is only part of the issue though. Organisational politics are a major factor. But then there are the hidden issues too. Such as "our order flow system does X, y, Z, and a,b, and in some cases c." Each of those areas has subtle and often undocumented/unspoken requirements and interdependencies. Replacing the overall system is highly desirable, but nothing can meet all the requirements out of the box, and sometimes modifying or building a system has extreme costs with zero benefits. I mean why pay a large amount of cash to get a system that does exactly what we have now, just so we can say we have modern technology. How do you justify that expense to shareholders and/or customers. And because the issues is large and ill-defined, managers would rather focus on the smaller well defined issues they have on their plate. There are better ways. But it's a judgement call if it is in a company's economic best interest to embrace the pain of adopting that better way.
At the 'better documented' comment. The cool kids say the code is the documentation.
These are financial services companies. They're not upgrading because there's a huge perceived risk taht the upgrade will fail in a manner that destroys the company. Certainly, the kids believe that COBOL is obsolete and inherently bad, but the existing code base is giving 5 nines of uptime, and new code might fail.
How about before you paper-shufflers master the technology you already have, specifically in securing it properly so all our very-much-personal information isn't constantly being stolen, before we give you any new toys to play with? I think I speak for everyone else when I say we're all sick and bloody well tired of companies being irresponsible.
I work for an MSP that does mostly small banks, and most programs the banks use for their core business are just GUI frontends for IBM AS400 mainframes. One of the biggest obstacles to "Innovation" is Internet Explorer. The federal reserve websites where you actually send wires and cash orders all still require IE, and compatibility modes for the newer versions. A bunch of programs require Java and/or flash. The vendors are starting to support windows 10, but there are issues. A big issue is for that for regulatory reasons we can't just buy into the Microsoft cloud, or any other cloud service without some serious vetting. So we can push out windows 10, but we have to block onedrive, office online, and every other "innovation" that Microsoft wants to bundle with their OS. Microsoft has the LTSB which actually sounds really good, but they say it's not meant for office drones. Small banks balk at paying twice as much for windows to get the enterprise version, which is really what the pro version should be. Windows 10 Pro is anything but, with ads and GAMES all over the place on a clean install.
If we had all web apps that don't require windows, then windows most definitely wouldn't be the right tool for this kind of environment. But of course, these web apps wouldn't be as reliable as the time tested IBM Mainframe for actual data storage and such.
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How would they know. I still can't find a bank using proper MFA, good password rules, a solid web and mobile app UI, etc. Most of them are stuck in 2005 or 1998!
"according to a new survey .. almost 51 percent say existing technology is holding back innovation. "
How about they stop relying on the industry standard Microsoft Windows.
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Why does everyone give business a 'pass' when they complain about something? If this situation is not their own fault, after years of cheaping out on IT, making it a poor career choice, etc then who's fault is it? Furthermore, who the heck are they complaining to that they feel will have more power to change this then themselves? Why do they choose some arbitrary cap for salaries that is below what the market dictates? Why does nobody put up a mirror?
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AS/400 != mainframe (it's midrange) - I spent a good decade++ programming BOTH directly ON 'em (RPG on their ancestors System 34/36/38 & COBOL on the 400) & then via clientserver GUI frontends (done via Delphi, MSVC++, VB or even Access circa 1994-2008) via clientserver models (via IBM middleware like ClientAccess libs provided @ first (later w/ other methods like ODBC @ first, better lighter methods came later, to DB/2 ISAM-type database structures)).
All they are, is what PC's in clientserver are for most businesses - ENOUGH to do the job (where a mainframe is overkill for their workload & ability to rent OR purchase - 1 fortune 500 I worked for made that 'mistake' & rented off mainframe time to local universities time-sharing it + HEATING THEIR BUILDING FROM IT (smart engineers imo, lol)).
* They have 'newer names' for that hardware now (zOS etc. iirc) - but I could care less (glad to be LONG GONE w/ the DAWN & free of it, lol - I am SURPRISED I can recall this much of it in fact, it's been decades) - great 'line of business' hardware - NOT STRICTLY "multitasking" but more QUEUED FAST PROCESSING - it was designed to be though (dedicated boards &/or ASICS all riding on a backplane bled down to PC's SOMEWHAT @ least from them & their mainframe bretheren to make them better).
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Through the 60's and 70's, blaming "the technology" probably held water. During the 80's, decent technology options (I mean 3rd party, not in-house developed) technology started showing up in many industries.
Now? Perhaps your internal Political Correctness is showing. You cannot mean "the technology" now. Your corporate politics may hold you back, or leadership, or PMs, or staff availability, or money, or a history of failed projects, or, well a lot of things.
I'll be kind and suggest that maybe you don't want to shine a light too brightly on your organizational failings. That can be career limiting. However look inside for answers, not at "the technology".
Change can be scary and big tech projects risky. However if you want to win business from your customers, and they really are demanding new products/services, what are you going to do? Watch your customers move to competitors willing to sell that stuff? Or maybe you ought to fight for that business?
In complex systems some parts depend upon other parts. So it is very difficult to change those at the bottom without upsetting everything.
So the solution is to work around the core issues. For example, a web based banking interface does not attempt to store additional information in the ancient COBOL core. Instead, it copies information into its own database, and then syncs via complex protocols. Over time more and more of these work arounds make the system harder and harder to change.
This is why a small, new bank, with a tiny IT staff and clean, new systems can compete with a large established bank with huge staff. (Plus Parkinson's law of course.)
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The story of creimy the mountain explained:
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Creimy is a typical mountain who poses for postcards, living with his wife Ethel, a tree, between the cities of Rosamund and Gorman, California. The main features on his mountainous face are two large caves, resembling eyes, and a cliff for a jaw, which moves up and down when he talks, puffing up dust and boulders.
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"Creimy The Mountain"
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One, two, three
CREIMY the Mountain
CREIMY the Mountain
A regular picturesque
Postcardy mountain
Residing between lovely
Rosamond and Gorman
With his stunning wife ETHELL, A tree! A tree!
CREIMY was a mountain ETHELL was a tree Growing off of his shoulder
CREIMY was a mountain
(CREIMY was a mountain!)
ETHELL was a tree Growing off of his shoulder
(ETHELL was a tree growing off of his shoulder)
(hey, hey hey!)
Creimy had two big
Caves for eyes,
With a cliff for a jaw
That would go up 'n down,
And whenever it did,
He'd puff out some dust,
And hack up a boulder (HACK!) Hack up a boulder (HACK! HACK!)
Hack up a boulder (HACK! HACK! HACK!) Up a boulder
Now, one day, now I believe it was on a Tuesday, a man in a checkered double-knit suit drove up in a large El Dorado Cadillac, leased from BOB SPREEN
("Where the freeways meet in Downey!")
And he laid a HUGE, BULGING ENVELOPE right at the corner of CREIMY THE MOUNTAIN, that was right where his 'foot' was supposed to be.
Now, CREIMY THE MOUNTAIN, he couldn't believe it! All those postcards he'd posed for, for ALL OF THOSE YEARS, and finally, now, AT LAST, his Royalties!
Royalties! Royalties Royalties! Royalty check is in, honey!
Yes, CREIMY THE MOUNTAIN was RICH! Yes, and his eyeball-caves, they widened in amazement, and his jaw (which was a cliff), well it dropped thirty feet!
A bunch of dust puffed out! Rocks and boulders hacked up, (hack! hack!) crushing 'The LINCOLN'!
I gave him the money He acted real funny He hocked up a rock and It TOTALLED my car!
Oh, do you Know any trucks Might be bound for THE VALLEY?
I don't wanna stand here All night in this bar (Dear Lord)
I don't wanna stand here All night in this bar (No shit!)
I don't wanna stand here All night in this bar!
By two o'clock, when the bars are already closed down, CREIMY had broken 'THE BIG NEWS' to ETHELL. And with dust and boulders everywhere, CREIMY, choked with excitement, announced
"ETHELL, we're going on a VACATION!"
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"ETHELL, we're going to New York!"
But first they were gonna stop in LAS VEGAS
It's off to LAS VEGAS to check out the lounges Pull a few handles,
And drink a few beers, (Oh, ETHELL!)
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The foolish consumers may want "better, faster financial products.", but that's nearly a contradiction, and is one if better includes more secure.
FWIW, I don't want my financial data going over the internet in any way. Well, I can't stop that, but I can restrict the amount of exposure I give myself. You'd think nobody had ever heard of Spectre or Meltdown. I've given up all purchases over the internet until those are widely patched. And I've never been willing to do on-line banking, despite the ads promoting it.
P.S.: To the extent that a "financial service" thinks of me as a consumer rather than a customer, I'd rather not do ANY business with them.
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The financial firms gave lip service to educating their employees while relentlessly replacing them with cheaper employees, fresh out of college.
Unemployed and without income, the former employees gradually grew less relevant and, with rising housing prices, they were quickly driven out of the metro areas where they were in the most demand.
Over and over, financial firms did this, driving the bar lower and lower.
Now, they complain that they cannot find good, sharp, experienced people.
I save, go fuck yourselves, assholes.
51 Percent of Financial Services Companies Believe that Non-Existent Tech Can Help Them
Unless those who have the technical skills start retiring. (think: COBOL)
Unless those who have the technical skills were downsized.