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A Facebook Employee Asked a Reporter To Turn Off His Phone So Facebook Couldn't Track Its Location (businessinsider.com)

Steve Kovach, writing for BusinessInsider: To corporate giants like Facebook, leaks to rivals or the media are a cardinal sin. That notion was clear in a new Wired story about Facebook's rocky time over the last two years. The story talks about how Facebook was able to find two leakers who told a Gizmodo reporter about its news operations. But one source for the Wired story highlighted just how concerned employees are about how their company goes after leakers. According to the story, the source, a current Facebook employee, asked a Wired reporter to turn off his phone so Facebook wouldn't be able to use location tracking and see that the two were close to each other for the meeting. The Wired's 11,000-word wide-ranging piece, for which it spoke with more than 50 current and former Facebook employees, gives us an inside look at how the company has been struggling to curb spread of fake news; battling internal discrimination among employees; and becoming furious when anything leaks to the media. Another excerpt from the story: The day after Fearnow (a contractor who leaked information to a Gizmodo reporter) took that second screenshot was a Friday. When he woke up after sleeping in, he noticed that he had about 30 meeting notifications from Facebook on his phone. When he replied to say it was his day off, he recalls, he was nonetheless asked to be available in 10 minutes. Soon he was on a video-conference with three Facebook employees, including Sonya Ahuja, the company's head of investigations. According to his recounting of the meeting, she asked him if he had been in touch with Nunez (the Gizmodo reporter, who eventually published this and this). He denied that he had been. Then she told him that she had their messages on Gchat, which Fearnow had assumed weren't accessible to Facebook. He was fired. "Please shut your laptop and don't reopen it," she instructed him.

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  1. Is it me or... by Opportunist · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Is it me or does that company become more and more like some kind of cult?

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  2. Facebook creeps me out by sjbe · · Score: 4, Insightful

    But one source for the Wired story highlighted just how concerned employees are about how their company goes after leakers. According to the story, the source, a current Facebook employee, asked a Wired reporter to turn off his phone so Facebook wouldn't be able to use location tracking and see that the two were close to each other for the meeting.

    And people wonder why I don't want to have anything to do with Facebook. If Facebook really is tracking people's location with that amount of accessible detail then I will never ever have an account with them and I will block them by every means I have available.

    1. Re:Facebook creeps me out by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 4, Insightful

      If Facebook really is tracking people's location with that amount of accessible detail then I will never ever have an account with them and I will block them by every means I have available.

      Of course they are, and whether you realise or not, you gave them permission when you installed the app ... because that thing wants access to pretty much EVERYTHING. And you can bet your ass they're mining your phone for all sorts of stuff you aren't aware of.

      From this:

      -Your contacts, call logs, text messages. This essentially means that the company can see who all are in your contacts, call them, message them and also see who youâ(TM)ve been in contact with. The app can also make modifications in your deviceâ(TM)s calendar.
      -Your location, which enables them to know where you are.
      -Your camera, which means the app has permission to click images, record videos and audio via the microphone too.
      -Your internal storage, which means they can see files on your phone as well as delete them.
      -The app can access your WiFi, change the wallpaper, network connectivity and much more.

      Fuck that.

      And, just as bad, so many websites have embedded links to Facebook in their page that they track much of where you go ... if you have an account they match it up, if they don't, they do anyway.

      My browsers all block Facebook outright, because I simply do not trust Facebook even in the slightest.

      Facebook exists to collect your data and monetise your life, and I refuse to accept that. If you have the app installed, you've given the ability to read everything you do.

      How is anybody even slightly surprised by this?

  3. Wait, what? by TheRaven64 · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Why didn't the person who was leaking just leave his phone at home, then Facebook would have seen the journalist in one place and the leaker in another and not been concerned. Either turning off the phone is enough to disable the tracking, in which case either party can do it because the thing they're worried about is being seen together, or it isn't in which case why ask the reporter to do it?

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  4. The wrong kind of comforting by Teun · · Score: 4, Insightful

    This makes me kind of smile, apparently it's not just the Facebook users that suffer a total loss of privacy but also their own employees.

    I have little sympathy for FB users that get burned but it's even less for those evil enough to work there.

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  5. Re:facebook can see gchat? by Jfetjunky · · Score: 4, Insightful

    I hope it was a corporate device, potentially signaled by the "Please shut your laptop and don't reopen it" line. Otherwise that would be a shocking level of collusion.

  6. Block as much as possible by sjbe · · Score: 5, Insightful

    They don't need you to have an account with them in order to track you.

    Which is why I make heavy use of various ad blockers and privacy guarding software to prevent as much of that as possible. I'm well aware they try to track me but I try to not make it easy for them. For example on my current browser I have Privacy Badger, Ublock, and Adblock Plus as well as some stuff to block flash. I'll use every tool I can find to give them the figurative (and literal) middle finger.

  7. Not surprising by Vermonter · · Score: 4, Insightful

    99% of the time, the more powerful an entity becomes, the more it will exert it's power to keep (and usually increase) said power. It doesn't matter if that entity is a company, a government, or an individual.

  8. Re:Android development by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Check what libraries you're including. Nothing is free...

  9. I resent having to police my friends by sjbe · · Score: 4, Insightful

    However, many of your friends, family, co-workers, etc, likely use Facebook, and in doing so may reveal much about you.

    I've had this exact argument with several people. Some of them couldn't wrap their head around the fact that I: A) didn't want to be on facebook, B) resented them posting information about me without my permission, and C) resented that I had to police them from doing so which is difficult since I don't want to use Facebook in the first place. Even if I liked what Facebook offers (I don't) I still don't trust the company to be responsible with information about me.

    I worry about my daughter because in her generation it's kind of hard to have a social life without using some social networking systems that often don't care at all about respecting privacy.