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Bill Gates: Tech Companies Inviting Government Intervention (axios.com)

In an interview with Axios on Tuesday, Bill Gates warned Apple and other tech giants that they risk the kind of nightmarish government intervention that once plagued his Microsoft if they act arrogantly. Axios reports: The big picture: "The companies need to be careful that they're not ... advocating things that would prevent government from being able to, under appropriate review, perform the type of functions that we've come to count on." Asked if he sees instances of that now, Gates replied: "Oh, absolutely." Why it matters: With the Big Tech companies feeling they're suddenly drawing unfair scrutiny, this is Microsoft's co-founder saying they're bringing some of the problems on themselves, by resisting legitimate oversight.

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  1. "resisting legitimate oversight" by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Insightful

    In another words, using encryption that works and not installing back doors every time the NSA asks.
    Gee - thanks Gates, for having our backs. But please go to hell.

    No wonder Microsoft can't be trusted with our data if it was founded by assholes like him.

    1. Re:"resisting legitimate oversight" by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Interesting

      In another words, using encryption that works and not installing back doors every time the NSA asks.

      Pretty much this ... people who don't understand math are demanding encryption be something you can poke holes in, which you can't because math doesn't care about such things.

      But if you DO poke holes in encryption, then you've undermined security for everything which relies on it, because the state actors and other people with bad intentions will know there is a hole and attack it.

      This is a thinly veiled "it is illegal to keep secrets from the government".

      Papers please, comrade.

      Land of the free? Home of the brave? Good luck with that.

      You can make it secure, or you can make it so the government has access. You can't have both, and it's largely fascists and assholes who demand it.

  2. You can get ahead of it... by yodleboy · · Score: 4, Insightful

    You can get ahead of it, or you can get run over by it. You may get away with shenanigans for a long time, but once you cross the line, the government hammer is going to hit you hard. Unfortunately a lot of companies have no restraint. They will creep up to the edge of legality, pretty much guaranteeing government intervention.

  3. "legitimate oversight" by Gravis+Zero · · Score: 5, Insightful

    The problem is that the oversight provided turned illegitimate when the government decided to build a mass surveillance apparatus in violation of the fourth amendment of the US constitution. It is the government itself that is driving people to encryption. It's no surprised that trust has been lost in the government when even the local PD will hack your phone and make a complete copy without a warrant. Encryption is a way to ensure your rights because they abdicated themselves of that responsibility. The fact that they have been burned by their own bad behavior is unfortunate but there is nobody else to blame but themselves.

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  4. Wait...encryption or Uber's Greyball? by nctritech · · Score: 4, Insightful

    These words are subject to interpretation. I initially jumped to the conclusion that he means encryption; anyone who knows anything about how good encryption works knows that that's just bullshit because math doesn't abide by human law. Then I thought about Uber's Greyball and similar advanced authority-evading tactics and I realized that there is a legitimate point to be made if that's the context he's referring to instead of encryption.

    Don't you just LOVE ambiguity?

    1. Re:Wait...encryption or Uber's Greyball? by nateman1352 · · Score: 4, Insightful

      Agreed that Uber Greyball is a legit example, unfortunately Gates is talking about encryption. From TFA: "When I said he seemed to be referring to being able to unlock an iPhone, Gates replied: "There's no question of ability; it's the question of willingness.""

      This is nothing more than Gates taking pot shots at Apple, Microsoft's main rival. Hoping he can gall some prosecutor somewhere in to giving Apple the gift of an anti-trust lawsuit, just like he experienced long ago. Good to see that Gate's colors have not changed.

  5. Plagued it how? by drinkypoo · · Score: 4, Insightful

    they risk the kind of nightmarish government intervention that once plagued his Microsoft

    It was found that Microsoft violated a de facto monopoly position, and they got off with a handslap. "Plagued" is not the right word here, unless you want to say that we were plagued by Microsoft, as it has been said that Microsoft set back computing significantly.

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  6. Re:"legitimate oversight" by Gravis+Zero · · Score: 4, Insightful

    There is no reason to believe that the Democratic party has any intention of repealing the PATRIOT Act or FISA.

    Unfortunately, our democracy has been crippled and has resulted in a non-representative government that doesn't work for the people because of the reductive first-past-the-post voting system that in effect in 99.9% of the country.

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  7. There is no oversight by rainer_d · · Score: 4, Insightful

    The courts are secret, the decisions are secret, the evidence is secret, the verdicts are secret. And no jury.

    Lawmakers however would like you to think, that copyright-violations are bringing our countries to their knees and threatening their foundations.

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