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Messenger Kids Advocates Were Facebook-Funded (fastcompany.com)

Fast Company: Facebook unveiled this kid-friendly version of its signature messaging service in December, while the YouTube Kids scandal was in full swing. Messenger Kids, Facebook said, had been designed to serve as a "fun, safer solution" for family communications. It would be available for children as young as 6, the company said. To forestall criticism, Facebook asserted that the app had been developed alongside thousands of parents and a dozen expert advisors. But it looks like many of those outside experts were funded with Facebook dollars. According to Wired, "At least seven members of Facebook 13-person advisory board have some kind of financial tie to the company." Those advisors include the National PTA, Blue Star Families, Connect Safely, and the Yale Center for Emotional Intelligence.

35 comments

  1. Facebook kids by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Brought to you by Pedro the bear

  2. Considering the false grassroots campaigns used by H3lldr0p · · Score: 2

    throughout lobbying, this shouldn't come as a surprise to anyone. There are no depths to which those versed in averace will not sink in order to satiate their perverse desires. If it means having to prop up puppet groups, just like the far right has done numerous times, in order to find such "family friendly" advocates then let them. Let them do it so we can mock them and point out their lack of clothes.

    It's that second part which is more important. There is no pity to spend here. Mocking laughter is the only cure for this ailment.

    1. Re:Considering the false grassroots campaigns used by Megol · · Score: 1

      Seek help.

  3. Why am I not surprised by DarkRookie · · Score: 1

    I am not in the least surprise by this.
    More surprised that only 7 of the 13 are in their pockets and not 11 or 12.

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    1. Re:Why am I not surprised by HiThere · · Score: 1

      Well, since what they said was only that 7 out of 13 "have been shown" it's not that surprising. It could easily be 13 our of 13, and that would still be honest. It's like the ISP promise of a connection speed of "up to 10 mbps". It's perfectly honest even if you can't raise the carrier at all.

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  4. Religious Indoctrination? by mario6915 · · Score: 2, Funny

    Get 'em while they are young right Zuck? Fucking child-manipulating piece of shit.

    1. Re:Religious Indoctrination? by gnick · · Score: 1

      Get 'em while they are young...

      Well yeah, a consumer's a consumer. Kids steer $$ too so their data's valuable. If we keep down this road, I'm afraid we'll start seeing video games marketed toward children that INTENTIONALLY try to get them hooked.

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  5. Paid Google spin by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Gee, that's an improvement.

  6. I mean... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Yeah do expect these parents and experts are going to help Facebook for free just because. Would you help Facebook as an expert for free with no financial incentive?

    1. Re: I mean... by Zero__Kelvin · · Score: 1

      Exactly what I came to say. Experts get paid for their expertice. What I find fishy is why they wouldn't *all* be paid. I am no Schmuckerberg fan, and the list of valid criticisms are long indeed, but citing this as one just makes one look phenomenally foolish.

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    2. Re:I mean... by iamhassi · · Score: 1

      No, I help my kids for free, and make choices that are hopefully the best for them. I would never recommend anyone get on Facebook, let alone a child. Facebook really needs to die off or something better replace it because it's been so manipulated with fake information and controlled by what they want you to see (fake news) instead of what you really want to see (baby pictures) that Facebook isn't worth using anymore

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  7. What about the other 6? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Even if over 50% had financial ties, if the rest didn't (6 out of 13), then I don't see an issue here as they participated willingly with no financial skin in the outcome.

    Having said that, I still think Messenger Kids is a bad idea for kids in general.

    1. Re:What about the other 6? by nitehawk214 · · Score: 1

      Bribing is ok as long as you don't bribe absolutely everyone? Maybe the first 7 were bribed, and the remaining 6 were just idiots.

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    2. Re:What about the other 6? by iamhassi · · Score: 1

      Even if over 50% had financial ties, if the rest didn't (6 out of 13), then I don't see an issue here as they participated willingly with no financial skin in the outcome.

      Having said that, I still think Messenger Kids is a bad idea for kids in general.

      Does that mean if over half a jury is bribed by the defendant that's ok?

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  8. Wow Deceitful by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Well, I hope this doesn't lead to people distrusting things they read on the Internet and balkanizing into groups that only read things that they already agree with...

    Nah, what am I saying? People are smarter than that.

  9. is this news? really? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Facebook launches an app, and wants expert advice. Facebook pays for that advice. So?

    The story would have been if Facebook launched this product with no expert advice, no?

  10. Zuck is Far Right? by huckamania · · Score: 1

    Not sure I see that.

  11. The title of the Wired article is misleading by Jaguar777 · · Score: 3, Interesting

    Halfway through the article the author says they were unable to find any bias caused by the funding.

    Funding from Facebook may not have affected the feedback or research around Messenger Kids. The Facebook advisers who spoke to WIRED offered thoughtful perspectives, based on personal experience or supported by research.

    The title of the article could have just as easily been "Facebook Sought Expert Review for Messenger Kids"

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    1. Re:The title of the Wired article is misleading by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Yeah nothing untoward about a company giving BRIBES.

      Go suck some chinese cock you traitor.

    2. Re:The title of the Wired article is misleading by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Yeah, because Wired is a trustworthy source. They're just as bad as Facebook. There is always bias caused by funding. Wired is just out of touch with parents.

  12. Just like tobacco companies by Rick+Schumann · · Score: 1

    ..and soda companies, and sugar companies, and so on, and so on: Fund the narrative you want to present, cherrypick your data to fit it, supress anything that doesn't. Congratulations, Facebook/Zuckerberg, you're at least a full order of magnitude more evil than even I thought you were.

  13. For the looney "progressive" left? He sure is. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Hell, if you listen to today's campus "progressives", old Joe Stalin himself allowed too much free speech.

    1. Re:For the looney "progressive" left? He sure is. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Stalin did nothing wrong. Have you ever had Ukrainian cuisine? Neither have they! But they deserved it.

    2. Re:For the looney "progressive" left? He sure is. by Psion · · Score: 1

      I laughed at that. I shouldn't have. Hopefully I'll stop chuckling any minute now.
      Any minute.

  14. Re:is this news? really? by Megol · · Score: 1

    Please don't use logic, it upsets a lot of people.

  15. I am SHOCKED ... by cascadingstylesheet · · Score: 2

    I am shocked, SHOCKED, to find astroturfing going on in this establishment.

    {Your biased expert findings, sir.}

    Thank you.

  16. Not clear what the complaint is here... by RickRussellTX · · Score: 1

    Would people prefer that Facebook only solicit advice from uncompensated non-professionals?

    1. Re: Not clear what the complaint is here... by Zero__Kelvin · · Score: 1

      Many, many people here would, clearly. Gone are the days when most of the Slashdot readership were competent thoughtful professionals, but we both already knew that. Next up, "Porsche bribed experts to design their cars. In fact our investigation has uncovered the fact that every single expert involved in the design was financially compensated by Porsche!"

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    2. Re:Not clear what the complaint is here... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Thirteen is not a dozen.

    3. Re:Not clear what the complaint is here... by Actually,+I+do+RTFA · · Score: 1

      The experts were supposed to be advocates for the children. They had non-advisory panel connections to Facebook. It's a conflict. It's the same reason that, while we expect doctors working on human drug trials to be compensated, we certainly don't expect those doctors to own the drug they're testing.

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  17. Re:is this news? really? by RickRussellTX · · Score: 1

    Clearly only uncompensated amateurs with no interest in Facebook should provide advice to Facebook.

  18. kids are smarter than you think by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Facebook lost 10% of subscribers under 18 last year.

  19. Who else was going to pay for it? by drew_kime · · Score: 1

    If you're not getting funding from Facebook, how much time and money are you going to spend studying their upcoming products?

    This is the universal problem with "independent" testing. Same problem for food, drugs, cars, etc. We require manufacturers to test their products, then doubt the results because they paid for it.

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  20. Of course they received money from Facebook! So? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    If you consult for a company, you usually expect to get some money for it, no?

    Yes, FB is an evil piece of shit that should never have existed and needs to be exterminated along with anyone and anything that ever supported it.

    But this story is just retarded. Like nearly all stories nowadays.

  21. Facebook-Funded? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Are you quite sure it wasn't the Russians?