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UK Blames Russia For Cyber Attack, Says Won't Tolerate Disruption (reuters.com)

Britain blamed Russia on Thursday for a cyber-attack last year, publicly pointing the finger at Moscow for spreading a virus which disrupted companies across Europe including UK-based Reckitt Benckiser. From a report: Russia denied the accusation, saying it was part of "Russophobic" campaign it said was being waged by some Western countries. The so-called NotPetya attack in June started in Ukraine where it crippled government and business computers before spreading around the world, halting operations at ports, factories and offices. Britain's foreign ministry said the attack originated from the Russian military. "The decision to publicly attribute this incident underlines the fact that the UK and its allies will not tolerate malicious cyber activity," the ministry said in a statement. "The attack masqueraded as a criminal enterprise but its purpose was principally to disrupt," it said.

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  1. Harsh Response by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Insightful

    That'll teach them, if we just keep telling them we wont tolerate things enough maybe they'll just stop poisoning people in London with radioactive materials, and stop bringing down NHS systems and such.

    We just need to keep up the pressure of telling them how much we wont tolerate it and then they'll stop.

    1. Re: Harsh Response by Maritz · · Score: 4, Insightful

      lol. That's right; he wasn't "poisoned" comrade, he just happened to drink some polonium tea that was probably lying around for no particular reason.

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    2. Re: Harsh Response by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Informative

      This series of 6 articles alleges the Russian state or their Mafia allies have committed 17 politically motivated murders in the UK.

      To save us all time, I'll preempt the usual Krembot objections: yes, it's Buzzfeed, the evidence is in the six articles.

      The UK authorities have apparently been reluctant to do anything about it for fear of unleashing further mayhem or disturbing the huge amounts of dirty Russian money swilling around London, sorry invested in the UK.

    3. Re: Harsh Response by Hal_Porter · · Score: 3, Funny

      As my friend Comrade Colonel General Koleshnikov once said "Dmitry Sonovavich, we have often noticed traitors and spies have large amounts of hazardous radioactive isotopes in their hideouts. We have no idea why this is. Maybe they put them in their tea for some reason"

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    4. Re:Harsh Response by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      bogaboga and friends must've modded you down. The usual vatniks are out in full force today!

    5. Re: Harsh Response by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I stopped reading at "[buzzfeed.com]", thanks for the warning ahead of time.

    6. Re: Harsh Response by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      The UK authorities have apparently been reluctant to do anything about it for fear of unleashing further mayhem or disturbing the huge amounts of dirty Russian money swilling around London, sorry invested in the UK.

      The UK authorities have also been rather quiet about Russian influence on the Brexit vote - whatever it was they were voting for, nobody really know apart from Boris

    7. Re: Harsh Response by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      If that is the case, why doesn't UK government declassify, even if partially, his autopsy results despite being repeatedly asked to? Throwing such accusations around with zero medical proof is very unusual, to say the least.

    8. Re: Harsh Response by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      "Comrade"? Really? This is the only murder case I ever read about where the very cause of death has never been officially confirmed despite full autopsy. Do you know any other examples?

      What on Earth could stop the release of the portion of his autopsy that says how much Polonium he had in his body and whether it caused his death? I realise that the full report could be witheld for privacy reasons. Sorry, I've no other explanation than that it is because it is not consistent with the official theory. Especially when the second contaminated person is alive and well despite being told to have "five times the lethal dose"

    9. Re: Harsh Response by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      However the west has killed several hundred Russian mercenaries in Syria. There are ways and means of exacting your revenge that leave your opponent with little recourse.

  2. And as Vault 7 shown us by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0, Insightful

    That anyone in our own agencies could have created it with the footprint of any nation. And there is plenty of motivation for our own agencies to do it. In fact, it is part and parcel for something like the CIA to do.

    So this is a finger pointing shit show leaving wondering who to trust here.

    1. Re:And as Vault 7 shown us by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      So this is a finger pointing shit show leaving wondering who to trust here.

      Start with nobody. When idiots are allowed to elect your leaders, there is nowhere to run. Best of luck to everybody...

    2. Re:And as Vault 7 shown us by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      You forgot to state your assumption: it can't be the russians because they're so nice.

    3. Re:And as Vault 7 shown us by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Start with Dear Leader Putin. You can trust Dear Leader Putin.

    4. Re: And as Vault 7 shown us by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      But seriously, it targeted Ukraine. Also, notice they didn't actually deny it, they said it's part of a series of rusiophobic stories, sure, that's true, but they don't deny that they were the ones who launched the original attack.

  3. Sounds like fake news by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Insightful

    Yeah

  4. Moscow Donald - Treason, Obstruction of Justice by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0, Troll

    Lock him up!

  5. Ironic irony by Badlight · · Score: 3, Interesting

    "Country with history of lying about foreign affairs accusing another country with a history of lying about foreign affairs of lying about foreign affairs."

    This story was a waste of electricity.

    1. Re:Ironic irony by fustakrakich · · Score: 0

      "What do you call it when the assassin accuses the assassin?" - Abraham Lincoln

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    2. Re:Ironic irony by Maritz · · Score: 0

      They accused them of disseminating malware, not of lying about foreign affairs.

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    3. Re:Ironic irony by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      They accused Russia of doing something in regard to foreign affairs that Russia claimed to have not done. Therefore, they accused Russia of lying about foreign affairs.

  6. Hypocrites by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Interesting

    Given what GCHQ get up to, that makes the UK government a bunch of utter grade A hypocrites.

    1. Re:Hypocrites by Hal_Porter · · Score: 1

      I don't think Her Majesty's Government would get involved in anything underhand.

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  7. Todays attack that APK failed to stop by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    This must be today's news of an attack that APK's work failed to stop. I'm sure he is off trying to figure out a way to claim that hosts stops it but will completely miss the point of the attack. Too bad he has problems parsing English so doesn't realize what was actually said and doesn't seem to understand that his software is a very bad security janitor that tries but fails miserably to clean up the mess. I'm sure we can look forward to misquoted Slashdot users, incorrectly interpreted "experts", lots of name calling, as well as piles of fevered ranting.

    1. Re:Todays attack that APK failed to stop by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      You're not doing it right.

      Lord of Hosts, I summon thee.
      FAT32, network\etc\hosts, I summon thee.
      Hosts file, hosts file, hosts file, I summon thee.
      ...
      Maybe he ded.

    2. Re:Todays attack that APK failed to stop by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      You said that yesterday and many times before but apk proved you wrong again and again https://yro.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=11741695&cid=56126363/

  8. At least they didn't ask for it by Hasaf · · Score: 2, Interesting

    At least the UK leadership did not, publicly and directly, implore Russia to involve themselves in the internal decision making process in the UK.It is kind of hard to act self-righteous if you first ask them to do it.

    1. Re:At least they didn't ask for it by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      That's right, sneaky and underhand beats open and honest. It's the Russian way.

  9. The UK comes out of this looking like chumps by JaxTheAxe · · Score: 0

    UK cybersecurity is pants. How do we know ? The Defence Secretary just told us. Russia is using the internet to rig elections in other countries. How do we know ? They are so bent on destruction of the UK that May is still in power, and Boris Johnson is Foreign Secretary. No doubt Russia is to blame for Brexit as well, despite not having provided the gun, loaded the bullet, pointed it at the UK's foot or pulled the trigger. The UK has at least 99 problems, but Russia right now probably isn't one of them.

    1. Re:The UK comes out of this looking like chumps by DogDude · · Score: 1, Insightful

      Russia is doing this to plenty of countries, including the US. At least your country is led by people smart enough to say, "This isn't right." President Shithole actively invited them to mess with our elections.

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    2. Re:The UK comes out of this looking like chumps by DNS-and-BIND · · Score: 0

      The problem is a political mindset that excludes Brexit as a valid choice made by the most important polity: the people. Instead the opinions of elites are held as correct without any critical thinking. Democracy is a "problem" that we need to "fix". The dirty foreigners aren't the problem here. Surprise, the problem was ourselves the whole time.

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    3. Re:The UK comes out of this looking like chumps by DNS-and-BIND · · Score: 1, Interesting

      LOL as if the USA hasn't meddled in so many countries' elections. It's really rich to hear you complain. The 1996 Russian election was decided by collusion with the Americans. And many elections since. Hell, even in Brexit Obama interfered by saying Britain would be at the back of the queue for trade negotiations. Isn't it a wonderful triumph of democracy when the people act against the wishes of elites? Let's all take a moment to cheer.

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    4. Re: The UK comes out of this looking like chumps by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Interesting

      I hope you're not admitting the Russians are guilty? Wouldn't want you to lose your job over this.

      Supervisor to cubicle 101! Supervisor to cubicle 101! DNS-and-BIND leaving the script. Thoughtcrime in progress.

    5. Re:The UK comes out of this looking like chumps by Maritz · · Score: 3, Insightful

      "the people" voted Brexit because they thought it would make the fucking brown people go away. They were asked a complicated question and responded with a fucking stupid answer. There never should have been a referendum, there's a parliament that takes care of governance, democratically elected, and populated by people who know what the EU actually is.

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    6. Re:The UK comes out of this looking like chumps by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      It wasn't a stupid answer. They decided that their culture and national identity was worth more to them than economics.

    7. Re:The UK comes out of this looking like chumps by DNS-and-BIND · · Score: 2, Interesting

      "The people" ARE the government. Having an external body make decisions for them without reference to their opinions is...what's the word? Oh right: fascist. You're a fascist. The entire idea of "my ideas are right and yours are wrong" is anti-democratic to the core. How the fuck do you end up with an idea like "the EU is an unmitigated good which must never be opposed"? It's just one idea, with which reasonable people may disagree. To say otherwise is fascist.

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    8. Re:The UK comes out of this looking like chumps by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      The question was about sovereignty - that was and is very clear. As for accusations of racism: the EU is predominantly white and Christian, so you've just demonstrated your ignorance.
      I always find this accusation interesting, as it's the EU that discriminate in favour of predominately white people in the EU and against those from Africa and Asia. The leave position is to welcome controlled immigration, with a policy that's applied equally.

    9. Re: The UK comes out of this looking like chumps by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      So when "the people" elect Corbyn and the next GE, that will be a "stupid answer" too, then?

    10. Re: The UK comes out of this looking like chumps by dunkelfalke · · Score: 1

      Authoritarian, not fascist. A monarchy, even a representative one, is inherently authoritarian.

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    11. Re: The UK comes out of this looking like chumps by DNS-and-BIND · · Score: 1

      That's it? That's the best argument you've got? The Queen is a fascist dictator? Seriously? LOL.

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    12. Re:The UK comes out of this looking like chumps by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Because as we all know, Brexit is going to cause TEH DOOM!!!!!
      Even though the fucking economy is booming and unemployment is at a low.

      But the next cyclical recession will of course be blamed on Brexit.

    13. Re:The UK comes out of this looking like chumps by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      "The people" ARE the government. Having an external body make decisions for them without reference to their opinions is...what's the word? Oh right: fascist. You're a fascist. The entire idea of "my ideas are right and yours are wrong" is anti-democratic to the core. How the fuck do you end up with an idea like "the EU is an unmitigated good which must never be opposed"? It's just one idea, with which reasonable people may disagree. To say otherwise is fascist.

      The people make the decisions in a direct democracy. But the UK is a representative democracy, and going back to arguments put forward by Edmund Burke in 1774 (and before) a representative is someone who can, where appropriate, exercise his or her own judgement and not simply parrot the opinions of the electorate: "It ought to be the happiness and glory of a representative to live in the strictest union, the closest correspondence, and the most unreserved communication with his constituents. Their wishes ought to have great weight with him; their opinion, high respect; their business, unremitting attention. It is his duty to sacrifice his repose, his pleasures, his satisfactions, to theirs; and above all, ever, and in all cases, to prefer their interest to his own. But his unbiased opinion, his mature judgement, his enlightened conscience, he ought not to sacrifice to you, to any man, or to any set of men living. These he does not derive from your pleasure; no, nor from the law and the constitution. They are a trust from Providence, for the abuse of which he is deeply answerable. Your representative owes you, not his industry only, but his judgement; and he betrays, instead of serving you, if he sacrifices it to your opinion." Edmund Burke Speech to the Electors at Bristol at the Conclusion of the Poll, 1774

      For a more recent but similar opinion see

      https://www.newstatesman.com/politics/elections/2015/12/sorry-role-mp-be-representative-not-delegate

    14. Re:The UK comes out of this looking like chumps by serviscope_minor · · Score: 1

      . Instead the opinions of elites are held as correct without any critical thinking.

      This is the thing, Breiters are stupid enough to believe that Boris Johnson is not one of the elites.

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    15. Re:The UK comes out of this looking like chumps by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Using your logic there is nothing wrong with anything the Russians, British, or Americans do. Every thing is fair game and to the winner go the spoils. That said Russia is on the way to truly fucking themselves over. The US is going to continue to enact financial and trade sanctions and lock any an Russian with more than 2 Rubles to rub together from the international capital markets. The US could just increase domestic oil production and bring the price down to $10bbl and watch 90% of the yearly Russian hard currency earnings disappear. The state of California has a higher GDP than Russia so Russian economic power hardly registers when compared against the US and Chinese global financial power. SO yeah lets go balls to the wall and see how fast we can kick off WW3. I am looking forward to it. We live a global village of idiots who have divorced themselves from reality where right and wrong no longer matters. The only thing that matters is winning an argument no matter the costs. Liberals and Conservatives have each staked out immutable positions and defend their positions using any means possible. After all each side knows they are right so if killing 90% of the human race is what it takes to prove their point than game on.

    16. Re:The UK comes out of this looking like chumps by AHuxley · · Score: 1

      The people of the UK voted to exit the EU. They went out and voted in person. Thats democracy. Not some EU bureaucrats making laws for the UK.
      The people of the UK did not want "care of governance" from the EU.
      Thats why the UK voted to exit the EU.

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  10. Oh those crazy Russians! by cyberchondriac · · Score: 1

    "..The 1980s are now calling to ask for their foreign policy back..becausethe Cold War’s been over for 20 years.”

    This is why the leaders of the West should never get complacent, it's one step away from cocky and negligent.
    It's not paranoia if they're really out to get you.

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  11. Re:See why is "The Boy who Cried Wolf" important? by Gravis+Zero · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Are we now seeing why "The Boy who Cried Wolf" and "Chicken Little" fables were important to learn when you were a child?
    ...
    You wanted to blame Russia! Russia! Russia! just to undermine Trump

    Thanks for the note, comrade. However, it would be more convincing if Trump himself wasn't constantly making false and pants-on-fire statements all the time.

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  12. What happens when Putin dies? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Putin is like the Steve jobs of modern Russia: He's holding the focus of the organization he's been a part of together, and a popular cult leader for the self-trumpeted accomplishments he manufactures as needed. He left for a time, though retained connections, only to return and 'rescue' his organization, breaking rules the entire time. Even though he consistently does things that would be labelled as traditionally evil in any other context, he's treated as legitimate by virtue of his station. The question in that context is: What happens when he dies? His nation is largely a cult of personality, with no one really trusted to play that role in wake of that personality. Don't get me wrong - there's a succession path that will function, but mostly to reflect the imagined wished of the departed leader, not to actually play that role, to really hold that focus. The underlying greed and chaos will overwhelm that focus with all that stand to take his place. Their scientific community is largely still remnants of soviet systems, living in aluminum/copper-topped 'golden brain' showcases: Source Their military adventures and patriotism will be overwhelmed by their enormous cultural cynicism - and yes, it is actually stronger than American cynicism at this point. The amazing thing to me would be the likely outcome that many will see Putin's reign as a golden age for their nation. Perhaps they could elect Trump as their next leader - they seem to have a thing for sociopaths with a bottomless pit of vendettas.

    1. Re:What happens when Putin dies? by Maritz · · Score: 1

      Use paragraphs.

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    2. Re:What happens when Putin dies? by bestweasel · · Score: 3, Insightful

      Russia is unlikely to improve as long as Putin, the oligarchs and the mafias are in charge. No matter how much he hypes up external threats, the 70% of the population who aren't gullible understand that, as in the west, the system is stacked in favour of the elites but unlike the west, they're not allowed even to elect a totally unsuitable leader who promises to "drain the swamp".

      When even the rule of law is at the whim of the state and they see that anyone who complains too much ends up without a job or in prison or dead, they have little choice but to acquiesce or participate in the endemic corruption.

      In such an environment, any call to work together for the good of the country will be met with hollow laughter at best.

      Even when Putin eventually goes, hoping for a new leader who can make an efficient functioning state out of the current mess seems to be wishful thinking.

  13. Oh, well ... if they won't tolerate it, that's different.

    We are so sorry, comrade!

    1. Re:oh by PolygamousRanchKid+ · · Score: 2

      Oh, well ... if they won't tolerate it, that's different.

      We are so sorry, comrade!

      No Royal Wedding invitations for you!

      That'll show 'em!

      Maybe the SAS can toss some Corgis at Russians, as well.

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    2. Re:oh by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      They'll send a rude note - in the STRONGEST possible language!

      Seriously - what do they think they're going to do? They didn't do anything about Russia murdering political refugees; why would Russia take them seriously over this?

  14. Interesting comments, indeed. by Gravis+Zero · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Does anyone else thing it's interesting that the first 10 comments regarding a story about Russia come from anon or high number registered users that cast doubt on the story and putting it in a Republicans versus Democrats light? I'm just saying, it seems like the kind of thing Russian agents might be vying for.

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    1. Re:Interesting comments, indeed. by Maritz · · Score: 1

      Well, it's working perfectly, so I don't expect them to stop any time soon.

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    2. Re:Interesting comments, indeed. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Right, because Slashdot is big and famous enough to be known in Russia and be targeted for spamming. They must have near unlimited resources to troll this lousy site of all places. Basically the only people even left on Slashdot are tech nerds old enough to remember the late 90s internet when this place still mattered.

    3. Re:Interesting comments, indeed. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Right, because Slashdot is big and famous enough to be known in Russia and be targeted for spamming. They must have near unlimited resources to troll this lousy site of all places.

      I wouldn't assume anything. Russia's Internet Research Agency is well staffed and organized.

    4. Re:Interesting comments, indeed. by DNS-and-BIND · · Score: 1

      If you think Slashdot these days has any "reach" and is thus worth the efforts of paid shills, you're kidding yourself. Stories struggle to get 100 comments, something common years ago. Maybe, just maybe, there are people out there with opinions you disagree with. This doesn't make them "dirty foreigners". We have met the enemy, and he is us.

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    5. Re:Interesting comments, indeed. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Noticed something similar about the Huawei phone story - lots of suspect posts with poor grammar towing the same line.

    6. Re:Interesting comments, indeed. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      1. Most posters are AC. Even ones that have been around for 18 years like me. This is true of every story.

      2. Low UID users are more likely to be older, lived through the cold war, and are more than willing to relive childhood nostalgia of having a specific big bad outside the US to be angry about. A simpler time gone by.

    7. Re:Interesting comments, indeed. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      In today's episode of "Everyone I disagree with is a Russian bot":

      Does anyone else thing it's interesting that the first 10 comments regarding a story about Russia come from anon or high number registered users that cast doubt on the story and putting it in a Republicans versus Democrats light? I'm just saying, it seems like the kind of thing Russian agents might be vying for.

      What casts doubt on these stories are the media and politicians. They've been making up the most transparent bullshit ever since Trump won. Everything they dislike is instigated by Russians. Everyone who disagrees with them is dismissed as Russian bots. It is very much a partisan issue and of course people get tired of that.

    8. Re:Interesting comments, indeed. by Alypius · · Score: 1

      It's only simpler because we know the outcome.

    9. Re:Interesting comments, indeed. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I know this may sound crazy but hear me out. I suspect there are Russian nationals posting here, some as anonymous cowards, some pretending to be other nationalities, some even paid by the state. I've noticed this several times over the past few years, no more than ten or twenty thousand of them.

    10. Re:Interesting comments, indeed. by cascadingstylesheet · · Score: 1

      Does anyone else thing it's interesting that the first 10 comments regarding a story about Russia come from anon or high number registered users that cast doubt on the story and putting it in a Republicans versus Democrats light? I'm just saying, it seems like the kind of thing Russian agents might be vying for.

      I admire your hermetic seal.

      Is my ID low enough for ya?

    11. Re:Interesting comments, indeed. by tsqr · · Score: 1

      Noticed something similar about the Huawei phone story - lots of suspect posts with poor grammar towing the same line.

      More of a conceptual misunderstanding than a grammatical error, but still.

    12. Re:Interesting comments, indeed. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Why don't you admit you're a Russian then? Why hide it?

    13. Re:Interesting comments, indeed. by geek · · Score: 1

      Or maybe you're a Russian trying to draw attention of the others to suit you're overlords needs. Or maybe it's Russians all the way down............

      Red Scare of 2017-18.

    14. Re:Interesting comments, indeed. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      By their works shall ye know them. If it looks like a Muscovy duck and quacks like a Muscovy duck, it's probably a Muscovy duck, no matter how low its Slashdot ID.

    15. Re:Interesting comments, indeed. by Ryanrule · · Score: 1

      Doesn’t matter. It’s free to dump shit, so they dump it everywhere. We need covert ops in russia to start taking out the leaders of these programs.

    16. Re:Interesting comments, indeed. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Their deflections aside, I still find it hard to understand why Russia systematically compromises it international position, or let their citizens to do that for them. They have such a huuge PR problem now and it doesn't help them during their WTO and other talks. I guess prosperity, power and recognition are not something Russia wants.
      -- D. T.

    17. Re:Interesting comments, indeed. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      1,000 folks can cover most of the top 10,000 blogs easily. How much coverage does that give them: 95%?

    18. Re:Interesting comments, indeed. by eaglesrule · · Score: 1

      Well, let's play Guess That Shill. We've paid democrat shills, US deep state shills from things like this and this. We've corporate shills too, and definitely republican shills.

      Personally, I noticed how Bernie Sanders was treated by the press, and how after the election with the flick of the switch all of the usual mouth pieces were on the same page with blaming fake news and russian collusion. It was actually impressive how well that was coordinated.

      So now I wonder, who benefits the most from making the Russians appear as the all pervasive devil to eliminate any need for reform or accountability and keep our attention diverted. Any from that list? Which commentors are just ordinary people playing devils advocate since the subject of Russian activity is neither all or nothing? Could we actually have Russian shills too? Maybe! You decide whats more likely, while I enjoy my daily vodka ration. Cheers!

    19. Re:Interesting comments, indeed. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      This isn't reddit or Facebook. Fuck off with your conspiracy theories you fucking shill.

    20. Re:Interesting comments, indeed. by pots · · Score: 1

      One of the common strategies that dictators employ is the suppression of domestic dissent by creating foreign enemies. They don't have to be real enemies, that doesn't matter, they can just be imagined in the minds of locals. North Korea has been fighting a war against the United States internally, in the minds of its people, for decades now. With only their strong leadership there to fend off the threat. Or an example closer to home: "Those foreigners are taking our jobs! Support me and I will protect you from them."

      Obviously this strategy doesn't endear you to your scapegoats, but that doesn't matter to the dictator. The point is, you shouldn't be asking why Russia systematically compromises it's international position, you should be asking why Russian leadership systematically compromises Russia's international position.

    21. Re:Interesting comments, indeed. by DNS-and-BIND · · Score: 1

      Jesus Christ, calling for fucking war? With less proof than Iraq. What is wrong with you? You're seeing Russians under the bed. Fun fact: you know who wrote the infamous WMD memo that was used as a false flag to start the Iraq War? Robert Mueller. Yup, the same one.

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    22. Re:Interesting comments, indeed. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      So, everything that is in disagreement with your point of view can be dismissed as just more Russian trollmanship?

      Congratulations! Not, only have you just invented a new informal logical fallacy, you've demonstrated exactly why the U.S. is so messed up. Let me give you a hint: your shit does in fact stink, princess, despite what you and your small circle of identically-minded peers tell each other.

  15. It wasn't the Russians by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0, Offtopic

    It was an Italian using a Russian proxy

    Isn't the UK fucking stupid?

    1. Re:It wasn't the Russians by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Yeah. Everyone knows Italy and Ukraine are at war.

    2. Re:It wasn't the Russians by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      You don't seem to understand how the internet works. Immediately disconnect.

  16. We Did It! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    "We did it, you totally caught us! You are very clever you Brits you!"

    Said no criminal or spy ever.

  17. Re:See why is "The Boy who Cried Wolf" important? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Informative

    ...Oh, yeah, Trump's approval ratings are now above what Obama had.

    Actually, Trump's approval ratings did rise slightly since December... but, no, even with that slight up-tick, his approval ratings are still lower than Obama's. (Or Bush's, for that matter.)

    https://projects.fivethirtyeight.com/trump-approval-ratings/

  18. Re:See why is "The Boy who Cried Wolf" important? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

    Wrong, I assume you would side with an obvious liar and traitor if his political ideology is as racist and counterproductive as yours.

    All the trump-tards are just as willing to sell their country out to Russia for personal gain as Trump is.

    The only difference is that Trump is actually getting paid by Russian money laundering, but you are acting against your own interest having been conned by an obvious scam artist.

  19. Re:See why is "The Boy who Cried Wolf" important? by Maritz · · Score: 1

    If you're a Trumper, you're not going to believe anything that criticises your orange hero. We know.

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    I do not want your cheap brainburning drugs. They are useless for work. And I am a working man today.
  20. Yes, it was the Russians [Re:And as Vault 7 sh...] by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Informative

    The fact that the attack started with Ukraine is very strong evidence that it's Russia. They have been attacking Ukraine continuously since 2014.

    It's also likely that, this time, it wasn't actually an attack aimed at Britain. Not that they wouldn't attack Britain, but this time it looks like Britain was just collateral damage of an attack on Ukraine, because turns out that malware and viruses don't stick around at the target you send them to, they spread out.

  21. Re:Evidence? by Maritz · · Score: 1, Insightful

    It was Republicans who engaged Christopher Steele for a dossier on Trump. It appears that in actuality, you don't know what you're talking about. Shame.

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    I do not want your cheap brainburning drugs. They are useless for work. And I am a working man today.
  22. Isn't Russia responsible for everything? by walterbyrd · · Score: 0, Troll

    Russia, Russia, Russia!

    Two years ago, Russia was just another country, with a GDP about the same as Italy's.

    Now, if you get a flat tire, it's Russia's fault.

    And Russia is siding with right? When did that happen?

    No actual evidence of course, that would be silly.

    1. Re:Isn't Russia responsible for everything? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Go away, Russkibot!

    2. Re:Isn't Russia responsible for everything? by Alypius · · Score: 1

      Heck, I'm old enough to remember when warnings about Russia were met with "the 80's called...they want their cold war back!"

    3. Re:Isn't Russia responsible for everything? by tsqr · · Score: 1

      Heck, I'm old enough to remember when warnings about Russia were met with "the 80's called...they want their cold war back!"

      Yeah, I guess Russia was our buddy when Obama pooh-poohed Romney's citing of Russia as a major threat to the US six years ago.

  23. Re:See why is "The Boy who Cried Wolf" important? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    If you're a Trumper, you're not going to believe anything that criticises your orange hero. We know.

    And if you're an anit-Trumper, you'll vilify anything that doesn't criticize your orange devil. Welcome to the conversation on hyper-polarized political representation! Next we'll discuss how magnets are not a good analogy for a two-party governing system... Oh, and how have we not heard the argument of "I'm rubber, you're glue..." in Congress yet? C'mon people, entertain me!!

  24. Confirmation bias by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Not really, there are a lot of anon comments early on most stories, not just Russian ones, so you're subjecting yourself to confirmation bias.

    I have a relatively low numbered account from around 2001 or 2002, BTW, I'm just posting anon for the irony and because it shows others how conspiratorial the thinking is. "We don't know, therefore Russia!"

    P.S. you might want to look up how many of the past Russia stories were retracted in whole or in part... The headline is the most misleading piece of any article these days.

  25. Re:We want WAR by johanw · · Score: 0

    But then noone would buy their gas and pay in hard currency.

  26. Re:Evidence? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Liar.
    The Washington Free Beacon, a conservative media outlet, hired Fusion GPS to research ALL Republican candidates during the primaries, starting in October 2015. They fired Fusion in May 2016, when the primaries were mostly over.

    Steele was hired by Fusion GPS in June, 2016. There was ZERO overlap between the Free Beacon's funding of general research and the DNC and Clinton campaign's funding of Steele's collection of lies.

    The Free Beacon's involvement is well documented with public releases of payments and IRS/FEC filings.

  27. Ok so what now? by pele · · Score: 1

    Don't tolerate it. Now what, Theresa? What exactly are you going to do about it? How, exactly are you going to not tolerate it? Nuke them? Impose sanctions or something? Who is going to listen to you and your jokes? Some poor soul somewhere on the Isle of something or other, perhaps. Some retired pinhead with a greasy fat chip in one hand and a union jack in another wailing "we don't need no immagrunts!". You left the eu, remember? Trump is all about america first so he sure as hell isn't going to back you on thid one.
    Please tell us Mrs. May, what are you going to to about it, exactly? Will M come up with something?

    1. Re:Ok so what now? by AHuxley · · Score: 1

      The GCHQ can get its over time and a new budget. Contractors can fly to the USA and go shopping for advanced new US tech.
      Contractors from the USA can fly over to the UK and rent their new cyber tools.
      Cyber money is on the table with every code litter story thats pre approved for publication.
      The better the fiction, the better the funding.
      More stories in the media, more over time.
      Get a really good fictional story going and the budget gets lots of attention.

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      Domestic spying is now "Benign Information Gathering"
    2. Re: Ok so what now? by pele · · Score: 1

      I'm loving this reply by Aldus.

    3. Re: Ok so what now? by pele · · Score: 1

      Doh..

      s/du/dou/g

  28. Hysterical for intervention; continue narrative. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Hysterical for intervention; continue narrative.

  29. Re:Evidence? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    But remember to keep saying it's the enemy team who keeps falling for fake news; your team is just too darn smart to fall for it, the news says so!

  30. Mighty Big Talk by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    " - the UK and its allies will not tolerate malicious cyber activity"

    That's mighty big talk for a failed monarchy that cannot manage an alliance with it's neighbors and is being invaded by the hordes of the sub-continent.

    The Russians must be quaking in their boots, fearing an onslaught from a million Sinclair computers.

  31. Re:See why is "The Boy who Cried Wolf" important? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Howdy comrade! How's Siberia?

    I'm sorry, but I'm an actual born and raised, educated US citizen and I know how to read and disseminate what is government propaganda. Hope the Kremlin is treating you well. How are your fellow Russians doing?

  32. Re:Evidence? by DNS-and-BIND · · Score: 1, Troll

    Nope! The Republican Party did not pay for the Steele dossier. That is fake news. They paid for opposition research which did not involve Steele in any way. Fun fact: Steele was fired by Obama's FBI for being an unreliable source.

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    Shutting down free speech with violence isn't fighting fascism. It IS fascism!
  33. Ooh, a warning! by WillAffleckUW · · Score: 1

    The only things Russia cares about are: cryptocurrency, and purchases of oil and natural gas.

    Quadruple investment in Renewables and cut them off at the knees.

    --
    -- Tigger warning: This post may contain tiggers! --
  34. Re:See why is "The Boy who Cried Wolf" important? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Unironically linking to Politifact? What's next? Snopes and Shareblue?

  35. Re:Evidence? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    That's a great example of actual fake news that's very persistent in liberal circles.

    The Associated Press retracted that story and issued a correction: https://apnews.com/63c883156e314b68b86209d3b63890f5

  36. Re:Evidence? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    More fun fact: Steele was fired in September 2016 for being unreliable, his information was used in Oct 2016 to get a FISA warrant without the judge being told the source was fired for being unreliable.

    Whats it called when you use fake information and lie to a judge to get a warrant? List who committed the crime this instance:
    James Comey
    Loretta Lynch
    Rosenstein
    Sally Yeats
    Andrew McCabe
    Bruce Ohr

  37. Re:See why is "The Boy who Cried Wolf" important? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Come on then, I'll play, where should we get our facts from?

  38. More BS from you? Ok, your own words... apk by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I stopped it (Petya/NotPetya based) DECADES ago https://tech.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=11704569&cid=56072611/ along w/ other NSA based exploit attacks!

    U even AGREE it works https://tech.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=11704569&cid=56071205/ & I've been setting up my systems thus for DECADES (since the NT 3.51 days even).

    Thus, no NSA based exploit of netbios over tcp/ip OR SMB/LanMan networking in Windows IS POSSIBLE for my setup (which is like many folks' out there - a SINGLE system online TCP/IP connected online only, no other home LAN/WAN connected).

    * You FAIL as always (it's just "What you do/How you Roll" (or get ROLLED by me, lol)).

    APK

    P.S.=> Thanks for making ME look GOOD & yourself, as always vs. me, VERY BAD on your part, lol... apk

    1. Re:More BS from you? Ok, your own words... apk by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Do you moonlight as a speechwriter for Donald Trump?

  39. Re:See why is "The Boy who Cried Wolf" important? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

    Come on then, I'll play, where should we get our facts from?

    There's this: https://www.rt.com/
    and this: https://www.infowars.com/

  40. Not when the monarch is only a figurehead by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Authoritarian, not fascist. A monarchy, even a representative one, is inherently authoritarian.

    You would be right if the monarch actually had political power, but in the UK s/he does not. In the UK, the monarch is a figurehead and is in fact a prohibited from engaging in politics. The British government has its problems, but being "inherently authoritarian" isn't one of them.

  41. ok, honestly by superwiz · · Score: 0

    why do we have to care what that dumb island has to say? what has England done for anyone in the past 25 years? mod it "troll" all you want, but you know you can't give a straight answer to that question.

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    1. Re:ok, honestly by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Off with his head! Your filter has bad manners, let me use caps!

    2. Re:ok, honestly by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      It's provided a home for 60 million people, and contributed over $2.5 trillion per year to the world economy.

      What, more important than that, has the USA done for anyone in the past 25 years? Sure the numbers are larger, but relative to the amount of land and resources it consumes, the UK does extremely well.

    3. Re:ok, honestly by superwiz · · Score: 1

      the UK does extremely well.

      No, it does not. It used to have a superb science program. It doesn't anymore. It now lives off of having the same language as the US. It has no manufacturing left to speak of. It is not producing great innovators or researchers. It just happens to trade on its language. US is responsible for most of the scientific research done in the world. US brings about most of innovation in medicine, electronics, and just about anything else that enables life. Who the hell cares that England managed to con a lot of people of the globe to think that British English is the real English. US English is the normative one. And Britain just charges businesses for being a gateway to the US if they can't get there on their own. Which brings back the question, "why should we, in the US, care about what that island thinks?"

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      Any guest worker system is indistinguishable from indentured servitude.
    4. Re: ok, honestly by pele · · Score: 1

      Erm no.

      The cpu in that phone of yours is what, arm?

  42. and what exactly you are gonna do, Granny UK ? shi by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    > will not tolerate

    and what exactly you are gonna do, Granny UK ? shit all over yourself ?

  43. Re:See why is "The Boy who Cried Wolf" important? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    > educated

    now this part is doubtful

  44. It's a plot! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    IT'S A PLOT!

  45. Stop picking on Russia. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Russia is the inocent one here. Amazing and peaceful President Putin loves all other nations, he has said so to many times and people. I am English and I am offended that our government is so quick to attack such a beautiful and peaceful nation full of loving leaders who wish nothing but the best for all. It is for the shame!

  46. Your fallacy is by eaglesrule · · Score: 1

    "the people" voted Brexit because they thought it would make the fucking brown people go away.

    Appeal to emotion with an extra helping of fallacy of the single cause.

    This tactic gets used often because using racism as a cudgel is both fun and easy. Plenty of simple minded people fall for it.

  47. Re:See why is "The Boy who Cried Wolf" important? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Did you mean to say "discriminate" instead of disseminate Ivan?

  48. I could be like you instead, lol... apk by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    See subject: I could be a FULL-TIME screwup like you (no 1st, probably 10th time you screwup like this) https://yro.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=11741695&cid=56126363/ where you stupidly & wrongly say "hosts don't work vs. this threat" & THEY DO, lol!

    * You do a GREAT JOB providing me not only amusement, but you also make ME look GOOD (as you just did here today & you EVEN AGREED w/ my methods) https://news.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=11751276&cid=56129878/

    APK

    P.S.=> Thanks, lmao... apk

  49. Re:and what exactly you are gonna do, Granny UK ? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    How many truthful posts are you allowed to make each day Boris?

  50. Re:Evidence? by AHuxley · · Score: 1

    If the code litter is found its from a clandestine service and then passed to the media as a story to publish.
    With art work, science words, names and dates to fill out the "approved" story. Real spy work is never in the media as it gives away methods.
    If cyber and spy methods are given to the media before 30 years its all fiction.
    Methods in the media tell another nation how smart they have been. No security service would allow any methods, results, feedback to be published in real time, that would all be kept secret.

    Approved real time publication is evidence of an approved fictional story.

    --
    Domestic spying is now "Benign Information Gathering"
  51. Looks like retard APK is faking support by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Looks like retard Alexander Peter Kowalski is again faking support for himself by not signing his posts.

    He really hates it when it is pointed out that he does this

    It is strange how the only people who support him argue like him, use the same words as him, and link to posts like he does.

    It's almost like there is an tiny army of people who are just as retarded as Alexander Peter Kowalski out there, or more than likely it is just APK pretending he has support.

  52. More retard talk from APK by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I see we have retard Alexander Peter Kowalski pretending he did original work.

    Sorry but you didn't have an original thought, even if you advice is the correct course of action.

    If one looks into his sources it links back to an article he wrote where he is telling people how to get a CIS benchmark score of 85

    This isn't an impressive piece of work as CIS will tell you exactly how to achieve a perfect score and does so in their freely available benchmarks.

    Even outside of that it has been standard advice to stop and uninstall all software that you do not need, which this would have fallen under for more people.

    If you can't stop or uninstall the software then you should have other mitigating defences in place which is something APK completely ignores, which again is common security advice that predates APK.

    So like always we have APK dependent on the work of others and lacks the ability to form an actual original non retarded thought.

    Then we have him apparently thinking I made the original post, that isn't my thing, I call APK a retard, no more no less.

    I look forward to more retarded statements from Alexander Peter Kowalski.

  53. Wrong person retard APK by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Looks like retard Alexander Peter Kowalski has the wrong person again

    He should be use to it as he is wrong almost all the time.

    Now he will get mad and likely go full retard.

  54. You did it before ME? Prove it by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    See subject & prove it: You're nothing but an UNIDENTIFIABLE little punk that stalks me & you don't do shit despite your hollow claim "you write REAL securityware" (where is it blowhard?) & that you're a 'security guru & I'd shit my pants if I knew who you were" (lol, I know WHAT you are, a punk).

    It's std. advice to cut things you don't need since I've been putting that type of advice out there since 1990 (back as far as DOS). Have you?? Again, prove it to YOUR NAME/YOUR CREDIT, punk.

    Additionally - (it had errors that could lock you out) & I ended up w/ a 99% score in the end.

    APK

    P.S.=> You're nothing but a "jealous jowie" mere "ne'er-do-well" DO-NOTHING little zero & you know it BUT you ARE welcome to prove otherwise (you can't)... apk

  55. Doubt your authorities, says Ivan by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    FUD works so well. It does not matter if a link is advertized as something negative about Russia as long as one of the underlying goals is reached.

    When one's goal is destablization of foreign nations, one task is to make them doubt their authorities and various groups of themselves.

  56. BS you're the wrong person by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Looks like the SAME unidentifiable anonymous pussy (you) stalking me again - tell you what - why don't we meet in person so I can "correct you" PERMANENTLY?

    * You little stalking punk...

    APK

    P.S.=> You're a "ne'er-do-well" do nothing "jealous jowie" little pussy & nothing more (you don't prove otherwise)... apk

  57. Re:Yes, it was the Russians [Re:And as Vault 7 sh. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    You're cute. With your attempts at reasoning and what not. Can I hug you?

  58. Re:See why is "The Boy who Cried Wolf" important? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    You get your "facts" from nature. The rest is just bullshit for the slaves. Opt-out and reclaim your brain.