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Gmail Go, a Lightweight Version of Google's Email App, Launched on Android (techcrunch.com)

Google has added a notable addition to its line of "Go" edition apps -- the lightweight apps designed primarily for emerging markets -- with the launch of Gmail Go. From a report: The app, like others in the Go line, takes up less storage space on users' smartphones and makes better use of mobile data compared with the regular version of Gmail. The app also offers standard Gmail features like multiple account support, conversation view, attachments, and push notifications for new messages. It also prioritizes messages from friends and family first, while categorizing promotional and social emails in separate tabs, as Gmail does. But like other Go apps, Gmail Go doesn't consume as much storage space on the device. In fact, according to numerous reports, Gmail Go clocked in at a 9.51 MB download, and takes up roughly 25 MB of space on a device, compared with Gmail's 20.66 MB download, and 47 MB storage space.

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  1. A new wheel? IMAP. POP3. by 0100010001010011 · · Score: 1

    Years ago my library had 2 "internet" computers on the DSL and 3-4 other computers that were a telnet client only.

    You bet I taught my 15/16 year old self to check (POP3) and send (STMP) e-mail and chat (IRC) all from telnet.

    Not sure how much "Lighter" you could get. I think a Pi3 has more computing power per core than those machines had total.

    How heavy would a minimalistic POP3/STMP client with SSL support be?

    1. Re:A new wheel? IMAP. POP3. by dmbasso · · Score: 4, Funny

      Don't worry about memory, just add the following line to your CONFIG.SYS file:
      device=himem.sys

      Now you can use all that juicy memory over 640KB!

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    2. Re:A new wheel? IMAP. POP3. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      files=40
      buffers=40

    3. Re:A new wheel? IMAP. POP3. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      You were only 15 when DSL came around? Wow, you're a little boy.

  2. Lightweight gmail? by kelemvor4 · · Score: 1

    Lightweight gmail sounds horrid. Gmail is already devoid of features and barely functional. Honestly I thought it was already very lightweight. In fact I would have said that was Gmail's only strength as a client.

    1. Re:Lightweight gmail? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      You should wait --or not -- for the next upcoming/outgoing version called Gmail GoAway which clocks in at zero MB, with data storage limited to 640K, which should be enough for everybody.

    2. Re:Lightweight gmail? by nashv · · Score: 3, Insightful

      What features do you feel are missing from Gmail ? Which other email service (not client) provides these services ?

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    3. Re:Lightweight gmail? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      Real imap folders (not some non-standard tags workaround) and imap server responsiveness. imap.gmail.com is horridly slow.

      Standard email servers such as dovecot provide these services. Gmail does not.

    4. Re:Lightweight gmail? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      GMail's message display is really confusing. Thankfully I can use the default email app to read my GMail where it shows each thread reply separately rather than all glommed together into one big mess.

    5. Re:Lightweight gmail? by el_smurfo · · Score: 1

      They seem to have just removed the smooth animations and perhaps tablet enhancements. It's janky as heck and I would only run it on the lowest performance handset.

    6. Re:Lightweight gmail? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      amp

    7. Re:Lightweight gmail? by Tyrannosaur · · Score: 1

      Encryption

    8. Re:Lightweight gmail? by nashv · · Score: 1

      Most email clients that do support encryption use PGP. This is available on Gmail through an extension.
      https://chrome.google.com/webs...

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  3. Go Inbox by calctech · · Score: 1

    So, how does this new app compare to the other, Inbox by Gmail?

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    1. Re:Go Inbox by T.E.D. · · Score: 4, Funny

      So, how does this new app compare to the other, Inbox by Gmail?

      See, originally there was just Gmail. Its interface was kind of dated though, so a dude at Google on one of those Friday coding sabbaticals they are famous for created something new and fresh; Inbox.

      The problem is now that means my Android devices all have two email apps installed on them. Since I have two Android devices I carry with me, that means each email I receive now gives me four notifications. The vast majority of that email is spam of course. The two email tools are good at different things, so even if I could delete the older gmail (I can't), I probably wouldn't want to.

      Google has analyzed this situation and come up with the perfect solution: A third email app for my Android devices.

    2. Re:Go Inbox by sexconker · · Score: 1

      Google needs 4 messaging apps, so why not 4 email apps?

      I don't understand why Google is so fucking idiotic and scattered. Just make GMail not suck. Just update encryption and codecs in Hangouts. I'm never going to download Allo or Duo. I'm only using a separate SMS app because they removed SMS integration from Hangouts (for no good reason). I was on an old version of Hangouts up until last week, when they forced me to update (they time bombed old versions of Hangouts sometime last week).

    3. Re:Go Inbox by 93+Escort+Wagon · · Score: 1

      Google needs 4 messaging apps, so why not 4 email apps?

      Email client #4, “Flotsam”, is currently being dogfooded at Google with a soft-scheduled external launch date just before Memorial Day.

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    4. Re:Go Inbox by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      You could always try disabling notifications for all but one inbox.

    5. Re:Go Inbox by pnutjam · · Score: 1

      I've been failing at rooting my Verizon S5, I'm using it on AT&T's network and it's got a bunch of Verizon bloatware.
      I just figured out that you can remove bloatware, even without root.

      So... you can remove it.

  4. Can it do AMP? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    That's really the important question, going forward this will be a necessary component to any meaningful e-mail client and most e-mail will make use of the advanced features.

  5. Gotta Read'em All? by foxalopex · · Score: 1

    Somehow I'm reminded of "Pokemon Go" and their goofball "Gotta Catch'em All" phrase. :)

  6. Ah, lightweight thirty-year old apps by holophrastic · · Score: 4, Insightful

    E-mail in only 25MB? Wow! That's amazing!

    You know, that would have really helped about thirty years ago when my drive was only 500MB.

    Actually, that would have sucked thirty years ago, because thirty years ago, e-mail was easily under 5MB of total disk space. I do believe it was often under 3MB, and I'm pretty sure it was possible under 1MB.

    It's e-mail. It needn't be complicated.

    (oooooh, fancy sorting, that probably needs another 50 KB)

    1. Re:Ah, lightweight thirty-year old apps by ThurstonMoore · · Score: 1

      You had a big ass hard drive 30 years ago.

    2. Re:Ah, lightweight thirty-year old apps by holophrastic · · Score: 1

      Yeah, I figured if I said it was a 20MB disk, most would be shocked that I had any internet at all.

    3. Re:Ah, lightweight thirty-year old apps by squiggleslash · · Score: 4, Insightful

      It's probably around 10k for the IMAP library, 100k for the database/cache, 1Mb for the UI code, 2Mb for the UX assets, and 22Gb for the HTML renderer.

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  7. Introducing Slashdot Go. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    With built in "GO"atse support and integrated hot grits.

  8. So why do we need the regular version? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    If it's so easy to make these apps smaller, why the hell are the "normal" apps so much larger? And why limit the Go apps to particular phones that are limited to particular geographic regions. Sounds like a scam to get people to keep upgrading their phones to me, which has always been the case I guess, but now they can no longer deny it.

  9. Also useful for those on the first world by iampiti · · Score: 1

    I've been using the "lite" version of Facebook for some time and I don't miss the huge bloated "good" version.
    I'm a pretty lightweight user so I don't notice the omissions the lite app has (probably has) and also has the chat integrated so I don't need to install yet another app just to reply to Facebook messages.
    I don't know much about mobile development but they must be using some huge libraries/frameworks because I don't know how else many apps like Facebook weight over 100 MB in size

    1. Re:Also useful for those on the first world by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      is the "lite" version of facebook available on the play store? I see their messenger (55 MB) and their lite messenger (5MB), I also see their regular app (59MB) bot no "lite" version that is published by facebook itself.

      I mean i guess since you are already trusting facebook with most of your data why not add a third party into the chain of information by going with a non official app.

    2. Re:Also useful for those on the first world by iampiti · · Score: 1

      Yes, it is, at least where I live (Spain) maybe it isn't where you are. Spain doesn't have any problems with mobile internet capacity or speed (there's good working 4g in all the medium and big cities) neither most people have space-constrained smartphones so I don't know why they would publish it here and not on other first world countries.

  10. Google mail by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

    ...just say NO.

    Just friggin' stay in control of your own mail. You owe that to yourself, and to all the others.

  11. Why is there a bloated version? by ThurstonMoore · · Score: 1

    Why don't they replace the bloated version with the Go version?

    1. Re:Why is there a bloated version? by SumDog · · Score: 3, Insightful

      Yea, they could use the version from 2008 .. and while we're at it, lets' go back to the gmail web app from 2005! The one that wasn't garbage.

    2. Re:Why is there a bloated version? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      How else could they fit in AMP? Oh, nevermind....

    3. Re:Why is there a bloated version? by g253 · · Score: 1

      I would actually pay to be able to use the old gmail web app.

      I'd pay even more to stop them freaking the fuck out every time I log in from a new device. It's webmail, the whole point is that I can check it on any device! Don't send a damn verification to my phone, if I had it with me I would use it instead you damn fools

  12. What's the point? by viperidaenz · · Score: 5, Interesting

    GMail is a system app on a lot (if not all?) of phones, it can't be removed. At best it can have its updates removed and be disabled.

    Installing Gmail Go will only end up using even more storage space.

    1. Re:What's the point? by swillden · · Score: 1

      GMail is a system app on a lot (if not all?) of phones, it can't be removed. At best it can have its updates removed and be disabled.

      Installing Gmail Go will only end up using even more storage space.

      Storage is rarely the biggest problem on low and midrange Android devices. Insufficient RAM is what makes things suck. The Go apps use less RAM, that's their real benefit.

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    2. Re:What's the point? by jezwel · · Score: 1

      Storage is a real problem when you only have 16GB for system & apps. Many Google apps only let you remove Updates to their apps, however the base application remains installed and using up precious storage space.
      eg: I can remove Google Home, but not Google Docs (145MB!!).
      Google Play books is wasting 45MB for an app I can't remove. Remove all the updates and it's *only* 9.2MB
      Google Play games - from 33MB down to only 7.8MB yay.
      Movies and TV, from 45MB to 9.2MB.
      Google Play music? 58MB down to 10MB.
      Google Play Newstand from 50MB down to 9.1MB.
      Hangouts - another 73MB wasted, now down to 18MB.

      If you leave auto-update on, all these are automatically pushed back to those ludicrous values.
      Why push all this useless stuff to users that don't want it, and that take up space?

    3. Re:What's the point? by swillden · · Score: 1

      RAM is a *huge* problem when you have only 512 MB.

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    4. Re:What's the point? by iampiti · · Score: 1

      I used to have a Galaxy s4 with 16 gigs of memory and had storage problems all the time. I did have 20 or 30 apps installed (not an unreasonable number IMO) but no multigigabyte games or something like that but I still had to clean caches/delete Whatsapp images and videos all the time just for being able to install updates.
      Now with a 32 gb LG I have no problems at all.

    5. Re:What's the point? by pnutjam · · Score: 1

      I just figured out how to remove those apps without root. Check this out, https://forum.xda-developers.c...

  13. Too much wasted empty screen space by Blinkin1200 · · Score: 1

    I can't stand their coloring book design with the big dots and wasted screen space. K9 mail and even Samsung's email client provide a better UI.

  14. More shit by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    What is up with Google, they keep releasing shtty products or fucking up the ones they already have (photos, maps)

  15. Let me unistall Gmail by randomErr · · Score: 3

    I would be excited but my phone has a ton of apps pre-installed that can't be uninstalled. If I could uninstall GMAIL I would switch to this in a heart beat or just use the web interface.

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  16. Install another Gmail app? by kbg · · Score: 2

    Why would I install a second Gmail app when I can't even uninstall the first one? This would take up even more storage space. Do these idiots at Google not even realise that even if you disable the Gmail app it still takes up storage space?

    1. Re:Install another Gmail app? by jezwel · · Score: 2

      Don't forget their new Inbox app for Gmail! Now with Gmail Go, you can have 3 apps to do the one task!

  17. Screw the storage space, what about memory use? by AbRASiON · · Score: 1

    I have facebook lite on my phone and it's vastly superior to the modern facebook app.

    Gmail has never felt too sluggish to me, but if this saves some ram or cpu time. I'll try it

  18. Gmail Go? by Bing+Tsher+E · · Score: 1

    Is that like Pokemon Go? Because I have a Gmail account, but I also have a favorite version of Pokemon. That's Pokemon Emerald. Pokemon Go sucks, and I suspect Gmail Go will, too.

  19. Screw Apps that consume internal disk space by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Especially screw WhatsApp for not offering a mode to save those shitty videos to an SD-card instead.

    Also screw all those Apps that just HAVE TO be saved to internal disk space, lest a stupid user installs them on an sd-card and then cannot use the app!

  20. Use K9 for Android mail by trawg · · Score: 4, Informative

    If you're on Android & care about email I strongly recommend K-9 Mail.

    It is an open source mail client which is more like Thunderbird (i.e., it downloads messages locally) than the Gmail app. So you can open it even when you have no Internet and know that the email it downloaded will actually be available.

    I travel quite a bit and found this ability utterly indispensable after a few times where I had things like boarding passes, hotel registrations, etc in my Gmail and wasn't able to easily load them in the Gmail mobile app. I now have a "Travel" folder in my Gmail which I've set to always download all the contents, so I know when I go to a new city it will have anything I need into it, accessible when I get there, with or without Internet access.

    Maybe it has changed in the last few years but not having access to email that I had previously downloaded (i.e., "viewed on the cloud", which I suspect is what mostly happens with the Gmail app) was a total dealbreaker.

    Supports multiple accounts, IMAP & POP3, even PGP if you care about that. The only thing that doesn't work great is search - it only will search your locally downloaded mail - and even then it seems to be a bit flaky. In these cases I use the Gmail mobile web interface to find things.

    K-9 is a mail client on mobile that works much more like old school nerds would expect!

    1. Re:Use K9 for Android mail by coofercat · · Score: 1

      I did look at K9 but ended up with Maildroid (which I paid for after a bit of time on the free app). Likewise, it's way better than the built in crap that phones come with. Like K9 it's got it rough edges, but for the most part I find it pretty decent.

      Either way, I'd really like to be able to remove the google apps from my phone - I'd keep maps, but pretty much everything else can go.

    2. Re:Use K9 for Android mail by trawg · · Score: 1

      Nice one! Haven't heard of that before but it looks nice. I'm a bit paranoid about email so feel like I have to stick with an open source client for as long as I can.

    3. Re:Use K9 for Android mail by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Yes, K9mail is great, highly configurable etc.
      But another big thing missing is, you can't create/delete custom folders (here is the 9 year old bug).
      So _if_ you depend on that, you have to use another (web)client to manage folders.
      Most people use K9mail/Android as a secondary client anyway, which is the reason such core functionality isn't implemented.
      But not my mom, so for her I had to set up Typeapp which can create folders (or you can also try Maildroid).
      Otherwise, happy K9mail user as well.