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US Charges Russian Social Media Trolls Over Election Tampering (cnet.com)

The US Justice Department has filed charges against 13 Russian nationals and three Russian groups for interfering with the 2016 presidential election. From a report: In an indictment [PDF] released on Friday, the Justice Department called out the Internet Research Agency, a notorious group behind the Russian propaganda effort across social media. Employees for the agency created troll accounts and used bots to prop up arguments and sow political chaos during the 2016 presidential campaign. Facebook, Twitter and Google have struggled to deal with fake news, trolling campaigns and bots on their platforms, facing the scorn of Capitol Hill over their mishandlings. The indictment lists 13 Russian nationals tied to the effort.

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  1. Re:..and Mueller is just getting warmed up, folks by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Insightful

    um, yeah, i think you are talking out of your ass and trying to cope defending your shithole president. here's the complete list

    What does the indictment say?
    It says a group of Russians:

    Posed as Americans, and opened financial accounts in their name
    Spent thousands of dollars a month buying political advertising
    Purchased US server space in an effort to hide their Russian affiliation
    Organised and promoted political rallies within the United States
    Posted political messages on social media accounts that impersonated real US citizens
    Promoted information that disparaged Hillary Clinton
    Received money from clients to post on US social media sites
    Created themed groups on social media on hot-button issues, particularly on Facebook and Instagram
    Operated with a monthly budget of as much as $1.25m (£890,000)

    The indictment says those involved systematically measured how well their internet posts were doing and adjusted their strategies to maximise effectiveness.

  2. Re:..and Mueller is just getting warmed up, folks by Sarten-X · · Score: 5, Insightful

    You're missing the point, and veering rather far from reality, as well.

    The original concern (I won't even say it was a "claim") was that Russians may have influenced the election process. That doesn't invalidate the result, and nobody credible has claimed that it would.

    The Trump campaign has since then countered that there's nothing to see, never any outside influence, and the whole investigation should be shut down.

    With these indictments, there is now an official accusation, backed by a nice pile of evidence, that there was in fact Russian interference. That's it. No, it doesn't indicate on its own that Trump knew, or his campaign officials knew. Those questions are still open. What has been resolved at this point is the question of whether something illegal happened (yes, it did), and whether there was foreign involvement (yes, there was).

    This could be the end of the indictments. If Trump's campaign was as honest as he claims, it will be. However, those open questions still need to be answered, which means the investigation needs to keep going. By making statements opposing the investigative process, Trump has made it worse for himself and his administration, because now the investigation needs to answer the question of whether anyone is trying to obstruct justice.

    This has nothing to do with whether Americans are unfit to vote. That's always been a risk, echoed in Benjamin Franklin's famous response when asked what kind of government we would have: "A republic, if you can keep it." It has always been known that people are subject to manipulation, and that's why interfering in the election carries severe consequences. If the indicted Russians ever find themselves on American soil, they'll have a chance to find out exactly how harsh those punishments can be.

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    You do not have a moral or legal right to do absolutely anything you want.
  3. Re:What tampering? This is about memes by Smidge204 · · Score: 5, Insightful

    I suppose reading even the introductory paragraph of the indictment is too much for you? It is, in fact, illegal for non-Americans to directly participate in US Politics, such as:

    - Paying for political advertisements
    - Paying others to troll social media for you
    - Making campaign contributions

    And this is all on top of general fraud and identity theft charges.

    This is a proper and textbook example of a conspiracy, with a group of people in coordinated effort to conduct an illegal activity... not just some assholes "posting memes."
    =Smidge=

  4. Re:..and Mueller is just getting warmed up, folks by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Are you people actually serious when you say things like this? I mean, I assume these are troll accounts, but I just don't know anymore.

    I'd find it funny if it wasn't such a serious issue. But sure, let's say that Steele, working for a third party who was being paid by the GOP is totally working for Hilary Clinton's benefit. Because the GOP love Hilary and definitely started their relationship with GPS Fusion for her benefit. (Yes I know the democrats took over payment, but we should be clear on where this whole thing started)

    And the two charges are totally identical, because where the charges levied here are for explicitly directed campaigns intended to spread misinformation, Steele was a paid employee of a company hired privately to produce information for another private entity. A full fledged and funded campaign by a foreign government is surely the same thing as the domestic government hiring a foreigner to act as, more or less, a Private Investigator.

    These are totally the same.

    These two things are totally equatable and not at all two completely distinct and different things so different it would be like comparing apples to horses.