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Virgin Hyperloop One is Coming To India (cnet.com)
Hyperloop is coming to India. From a report: The western-central Indian state of Maharashta plans to build a Virgin Hyperloop track between Pune and Mumbai, British entrepreneur and Virgin boss Richard Branson announced on Monday in a blog post. Virgin Hyperloop One will start by building a demo track, with the aim of eventually supporting 150 million passenger trips per year. It should reduce the 2.5-hour car journey or 3-hour train journey between the two cities to just 25 minutes, and will also stop off at Mumbai airport.
How are they going to have all those people hanging off the outside of the train in the vacuum?
...that the first catastrophic failure will happen somewhere else
Since when has a catastrophic failure stood in the way of capitalistic greed?
And Virgin trains. Branson is great at bullshit, hype and deal-making. Large engineering projects ... not so much.
All progress involves some failures. America used to accept failures. Today we avoid progress.
America is flat broke, and most Americans are buried under debt. The show is over.
Branson, eh?
How's Virgin Galactic coming along?
...that the first catastrophic failure will happen somewhere else
Since when has a catastrophic failure stood in the way of capitalistic greed?
How well does non-capitalism do with respect to catastrophic failure of things, if they even ever get built?
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Why does everything have to be about Trump with you libs?
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The Soviet Union fell apart, both China and Vietnam implemented reforms that brought market economies into play, and Venezuela is on the brink of civil war. I'd have to say that from current and historical evidence, that non-market economies based around central planning, nationalization of industries, or other communist policies tend to perform poorly.
One of the problems with infrastructure development in India is that your planned capacity will always be exceeded due to population growth.
Hyperloop has an estimated capacity of 840 passengers/hour
http://www.uschyperloop.com/hyperloop/
Mumbai's suburban rail currently carries 4500 passengers/hour peak
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mumbai_Suburban_Railway
Communism fails for the same reason pure capitalism fails. Human greed.
Communism usually devolves into fascism and dictatorships. This happens because of one of the tent poll tenants of communism is doing the best you can do for the group. Well not everyone is fit to run the bread factory. But they are good at organizing...
Capitalism devolves into feudalism. This happens through consolidation, price fixing, and collusion. Once you get to a particular amount of money you realize you can just lock out your competition or buy them outright or buy a political critter to make a law.
Of the two we know how to control capitalism can be brought to heel if we discourage conglomerations and monopolies.
Communism usually has s central authority where one size fits all approach fails mostly. This is because it encourages hidden behavior out of people to hide what little wealth they have. Which in turn requires a strong reaction from the group to discourage it. That creates organizations to spy on each other. Communism and its bloody brother socialism are responsible for some the largest bloodbaths in our human history. With estimates of 200+ million murdered in their names. Those who advocate for it have to be actively blind to what the end goals of those schools of thought.
The *only* way communism or socialism work in the long term is if we have unlimited energy and star trek like replicator devices. Even then we probably would fuck it up somehow. Until then we know capitalism fails slower and has a much lower body count.
Regardless of what the hyperloop website says, if you look at the actual press release whatever they are doing claims to support 150 million passengers a year, way more than 840 per hour.
Obviously capacity may be increased by larger cars, a larger tunnel, or simply more tunnels and cars running simultaneously (more likely).
Just like when building websites for the web you want to make sure you are building "webscale", when building transportation in India you want to make sure you are building it "India-scale". :--)
Also of course, the system is not meant to replace the train but add another option. The train will keep running, it will just be easier to move between cities for those that can afford it. That will probably boost the economy quite a bit...
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If you read about the things that the Soviets did during WWII, or that China did during the Great Leap Forward, you might get come to the conclusion that totalitarian communism has much more capacity for great projects, especially highly risky ones, than does capitalism.
The way totalitarian communism accomplished those things isn't pretty, but then unfettered capitalism isn't really any better.
Building a hyperloop is a small enough project that a sufficiently rich and convincing person, like Branson or Musk, can start a company and pull it off. But a company internally is pretty much a totalitarian regime with a centrally planned economy anyway.
I'd have to say that from current and historical evidence, that non-market economies based around central planning, nationalization of industries, or other communist policies tend to perform poorly.
Which is why ordinary high-speed rail, let alone the Hyperloop, will not be built in California, at least until the Chinese get there.
Communism fails because it lacks a feedback mechnism to encourage effective labor. Given time the smarter people figure out they can screw around with no negative consequences as long as they parrot the right propaganda and then the selfish (most of humanity) implement the strategy after learning of it.
Capitalism fails because effective labor has a positive feedback loop and given time this leads to a power imbalance similar to what martial prowess had in the ancient world.
The latter can be mitigated by kicking over sufficiently large anthills (breaking up monopolies, estate taxes, consumer protection laws, etc.) to keep the power gradient from getting too harsh. The former requires a complete overhaul of the human condition to correct.
Mumbai and Pune are 161km apart. A regular euro style high speed train could make it in half an hour.
It would mean upgrading the track, adding electrification and controlling how the track is accessed / crossed, but it seems cheaper than building and maintaining an evacuated tube and the regular train could carry far more people and goods.
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How will a high speed Vindaloop traveling through a tight tunnel Curry favor among riders that prefer sitting on the outside of the rail cars? Let's face it, India has a big population with transportation challenges. In dense urban areas, people can practice Pakora, running obstacle course style through the crowds, but that only gets you so far. Elsewhere in the world, small buses and shared taxis known as jitneys can transport small groups, but the Indian version, Chutney's, can hardly keep pace with the large traveling public. Conventional overland rail companies like the Mumbai & Western, and the Chapati & Papadum are already overcrowded and far too slow, not to mention safety issues of a ridership that prefers rooftop seating. The Vindaloop is a beguiling technology, but will it be accepted by those who prefer having their Kofta's squeezed out the window on every ride? The proposed trains will sport beige colors, because dark colors will absorb more light, and the coefficient of expansion might swell them too large to fit the fine tolerance tunnels, and when those Tan Doors close, the people best be all on the inside. Our reporter, Sam Osa, spoke with locals who expressed their concerns. One mother, Ma Sala, told us she feared for her boys who ride the train. "Things will get too crowded inside, but with no leg room outside, then what?" Naan of that matters of course if it proves safe. One can only hope that the J.D. Powers Raitas will be high enough to attract ridership.
Isn't that a bit nitty, Jim?
I cannot confirm or deny. He paid me $130,000 to sign an NDA. I understand that's the going rate.
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Ah, sitting. For a second I thought it said something else.
Confucius say, "Find worm in apple - bad. Find half a worm - worse."
will not be built in California, at least until the Chinese get there.
You mean "get back there". Didn't the Chinese build the existing railways to California?
What percentage of the comments is not racist or ignoramus flavored?
That says a lot about the media than the trains.
Of course, all of those countries you've mentioned were already performing poorly with extreme poverty under capitalism. I don't favor communism (I believe in capitalism with high taxes), but the fact of the matter is that it has only been adopted by nations that were desperately failing already and it is thus suspect to conclude failure of communism from the continued failure of those nations.
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Yes, but Chinese-Californians have rights now so they're no longer interested in being exploited. To get things done quickly and cheaply we need a new disposable labor force. Hopefully someday that'll be robots instead of humans.
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In the USA, millions of workers with medical conditions can't post a two week's notice and walk out the door without losing their and their family's health insurance and risking their lives. Not so different.
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You mean "get back there". Didn't the Chinese build the existing railways to California?
That was as Lelend Stanford's cheap labor. This time around, we will need their capital and their ability to ignore the yammerheads and git 'r' done.
EDIT: Leland Stanford.
Why are they investing in building these things when their feasibility has yet to be demonstarted. Not to mention the safety and security issues that its proponents haven't even acknowledged.
The socialist world has had their failures too - Chernobyl for one. Another destroyed town in (the Urals?) in the former USSR, that was completely contaminated. Escapes of bacteriological weaponized anthrax that killed many. Etc.
There's an easy to to stop having personal debt - stop overspending!
That's a good question as typically it's libs who can't stand having failures.
While rock-ribbed conservatives like you and I embrace our failures.
Which reminds me, did you see that Mitt Romney is running for senate?
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Communism fails for the same reason pure capitalism fails. Human greed.
If your system does not take human greed into account, then it fails.
Failure s*cks no matter what. But *shrug* it is what it is. Mitt Romney - he can go away as far as I"m concerned.