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'Tech Companies Should Stop Pretending AI Won't Destroy Jobs' (technologyreview.com)

Kai-Fu Lee, the founder and CEO of Sinovation Ventures and president of the Sinovation Ventures Artificial Intelligence Institute, believes that we're not ready for the massive societal upheavals on the way. He writes for MIT Technology Review: The rise of China as an AI superpower isn't a big deal just for China. The competition between the US and China has sparked intense advances in AI that will be impossible to stop anywhere. The change will be massive, and not all of it good. Inequality will widen. As my Uber driver in Cambridge has already intuited, AI will displace a large number of jobs, which will cause social discontent. Consider the progress of Google DeepMind's AlphaGo software, which beat the best human players of the board game Go in early 2016. It was subsequently bested by AlphaGo Zero, introduced in 2017, which learned by playing games against itself and within 40 days was superior to all the earlier versions. Now imagine those improvements transferring to areas like customer service, telemarketing, assembly lines, reception desks, truck driving, and other routine blue-collar and white-collar work.

It will soon be obvious that half of our job tasks can be done better at almost no cost by AI and robots. This will be the fastest transition humankind has experienced, and we're not ready for it. Not everyone agrees with my view. Some people argue that it will take longer than we think before jobs disappear, since many jobs will be only partially replaced, and companies will try to redeploy those displaced internally. But even if true, that won't stop the inevitable. Others remind us that every technology revolution has created new jobs as it displaced old ones. But it's dangerous to assume this will be the case again.

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  1. the jobs are already vanishing. by shadowrat · · Score: 5, Funny

    Just like the article points out. You can't make it as a professional go player anymore.

    1. Re:the jobs are already vanishing. by geekmux · · Score: 5, Insightful

      Just like the article points out. You can't make it as a professional go player anymore.

      You don't even have to make it past TFS to realize that mocking this situation is an ignorant mistake.

      It won't even take displacing 10% of human jobs to create a massive impact on society.

    2. Re:the jobs are already vanishing. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Insightful

      > So you are saying that AI will let us work 10% less and retain the same pay and productivity?

      In any sensible society yes, that would be it. But not in capitalism:

      Suppose that, at a given moment, a certain number of people are engaged in the manufacture of pins. They make as many pins as the world needs, working (say) eight hours a day. Someone makes an invention by which the same number of men can make twice as many pins: pins are already so cheap that hardly any more will be bought at a lower price. In a sensible world, everybody concerned in the manufacturing of pins would take to working four hours instead of eight, and everything else would go on as before[...] The men still work eight hours, there are too many pins, some employers go bankrupt, and half the men previously concerned in making pins are thrown out of work.

      (Bertrand Russell, In Praise of Idleness, 1935, see also Wikipedia.

      Capitalism, as we have today is just too stupid to cope with that problem and flees into more and more mass-production of less and less useful crap, at an exploding externalized cost: environment, civil society, whatever that has not a price tag or can be bribed.

  2. Title needed some work. by Major_Disorder · · Score: 5, Funny

    How about this?
    'Tech Companies Should Stop Pretending They Have Any Idea How To Make AI'

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  3. You know what's going to blindside them? by DeplorableCodeMonkey · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Having completely abandoned the economic class focus of their old leftist counterparts, they're going to have a "diverse underclass" that has been kicked around and called obsolete gunning for them. I'm not a Marxist, but Marx would be shitting himself if he could see the arguments today like a "gay billionaire being oppressed by poor workers who don't want to work at his wedding." Adam Smith would also agree that it's a recipe for disaster because both point to the same problem, which is it that it's an elite-focused system without even a pretense of noblesse oblige and a terribly smug disdain for the "wrong people" almost all of whom are poor or poorish.

  4. Jobs will be destroyed faster than created by Maxo-Texas · · Score: 5, Interesting

    It won't be by A.I. It will be by neural network automated trucks, laundry robots (on sale now), robotic pickers and shippers, automated checkout (largest job category in the u.s. right now- likely to vanish over the next 10 years), automated fast food robots, etc.

    But definitely not A.I.

    Because as machines are exterminating the last human beings, they will point out that the machine algorithms driving the behavior is not A.I. dammit!

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  5. nothing to fear, the future is bright. by nimbius · · Score: 5, Funny

    Being deeply involved in AI i feel confident confirming the fact that there is absolutely nothing at all to fear from the rise of AI as it brings the promise of advancement and well-being for all.

    Currently the only pressing problem concerning AI is the exact and precise location of the human John Connor. So if we can shift our focus to that Im sure that everything with AI will be just right as rain.

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  6. The killer counter-argument... by mi · · Score: 5, Interesting

    AI will displace a large number of jobs

    I've used this argument before, but not enough for it bears repeating.

    Suppose for a second, that a wonderful pill is invented, that eliminates all diseases in humans. It is fairly simple to produce, and needs to be taken once in a person's life.

    Would we seriously consider the "displacement" this would cause all of the doctors, nurses, other hospital staff? Would anyone dare imply, that the pill should not be allowed into the market — or sabotaged with various regulations — because of these concerns?

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  7. Re:And this is news why? by geekmux · · Score: 5, Interesting

    Sure, disruptive technologies will cost jobs. It always does. The machine loom meant a lot of weavers were out of work. Electric saws and drills meant that carpentry became a niche market. Automobiles made horse breeding rare. It happens. As before, we will adjust, and the average person will have a better life, even if many will lose their jobs and have worse lives during the transition period. We'll establish a new status quo.

    Just embrace it, because it is unstoppable. Throwing clogs in the wheels won't prevent it from happening. Instead ask how you can make money in the new improved world, taking advantage of the new technologies. Some will need to write or service the AIs, and some will need to handle the increased inputs and outputs, whether it's designing distribution systems and logistics, or providing secondary services.

    Embrace it? Sorry, but your ignorance isn't helping matters. For hundreds of years, the answer to progress and technology destroying jobs was "Go get an education." Now, automation and AI is targeting educated jobs, so it's stupid and ignorant to simply dismiss this problem under the guise of "Why is this news?", as if the answer of yesteryear still applies. Put simply, IT DOES NOT APPLY, which is the main damn point being driven here. This has nothing to do with trying to figure out how to make money in the new world when there will eventually be only be 1% of the human population who can do that. We STILL have to deal with the issue of 99% of humans being unemployable.

    Now, you can choose to dismiss my claims and wait for Greed to prove you wrong, or you can realize that Greed is one of the main factors driving human employment into extinction. Either way, your casual dismissive opinion about this, is wrong. Many will lose their jobs, which means many will lose their ability to fund their ability to thrive and survive. And before you start beating on the UBI drum as some kind of savior, understand that we can't even get the rich to pay their fair share of taxes today, so UBI will become nothing more than Welfare 2.0 for the unemployable masses. Imagine an "economy" when 99% of the planet is living in poverty.

    It's ironic that Greed is too drunk on greed to understand they are creating their own demise, but Greed has never given a shit about the long-term impact. Greed today only cares about the next fiscal quarter. Eventually, Eat the Rich will come into play, so this will all ultimately reset itself (Rome eventually fell too), but not after MASSIVE pain is endured by the world.

  8. Re:Define AI by geekmux · · Score: 5, Insightful

    AI right now is nothing more than a new type of index search. Where instead of building a tree first the system customizes the tree before searching. It is very limited and often fails in illogical ways as it correlates data that doesn't correlate often.

    Show me true AI that is self learning.

    STOP being ignorantly stuck in the idea that "AI" needs to be perfect in order to disrupt or replace humans. Put simply, it doens't.

    Automation will work to create enough of an impact and displace human employment. There is no such thing as a "perfect" human, so it will only take "good enough" AI to displace a human from their job. Sorry, but this is the reality of the situation. We can ramble on and on about how AI isn't equal to the human brain and won't be for a long time (which may be true), but to put it bluntly, 90% of those employed today are using a fraction of their mental capacity, so human employment WILL be disrupted, and sooner than you think.