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Intel, Microsoft, Dell, HP and Lenovo Expect PCs With Fast 5G Wireless To Ship Next Year (pcworld.com)
Intel, along with Dell, HP, Lenovo, and Microsoft said Thursday that the companies expect the first 5G Windows PCs to become available during the second half of 2019. From a report: That's about the same time that Intel plans to begin shipping its XMM 8000 commercial modems, marking the company's entrance into the 5G market. Intel will show off a prototype of the new 5G connected PC at Mobile World Congress show in Barcelona. In addition the company will demonstrate data streaming over the 5G network. At its stand, Intel said that it will also show off eSIM technology -- the replacement for actual, physical SIM cards -- and a thin PC running 802.11ax Wi-Fi, the next-gen Wi-Fi standard.
Obviously this will be directly connected to the Intel Management Engine just like current Intel wired network cards so it can do whatever it wants without any OS control?
"PC makers expected to release new models with upgraded hardware."
Wow. Didn't see that coming.
The same Wi-Fi that's easily blocked by a single piece of drywall?
Unless data over cellular becomes significantly cheaper, I don't see this making much impact for the regular end-user. Corporate use is obvious. I have three laptops with 3G/4G modems. Exactly one has a SIM card and it's prepaid. I just load a few GB on it when I absolutely need Internet and there is no free wifi there. Still 5EUR/5GB. Cheapest I found.
Ahhh...the great dumpster continuum. Many a free computer will be found there. -- sowth (748135)
Plus with the end of net beutrality you won’t be able to take advantage of the higher speeds anyway.
At its stand, Intel said that it will also show off eSIM technology -- the replacement for actual, physical SIM cards
They have a secret "use case" test:
[ ] Unauthorized thief can replace the eSIM as easily as a physical sim to get the stolen phone back onto a cellular provider network, who profiteers off this misery by getting a new customer funded by the victim and giving the victim the honor of having to pay them an outrageous price for a new phone because they have to keep paying the network contract including the stolen old phone anyway.
(-1: Post disagrees with my already-settled worldview) is not a valid mod option.
When will they be shipping non-backdoored CPUs?
Fast
Assuming we're rocketing toward the repeal of net neutrality, this seems unlikely. Carriers currently routinely deliver neutered 4g with caps and traffic shaping. This will be a pay-for-play rate of performance that guarantees the vast majority of americans a mediocre experience, while slashdotters in sixty other countries scratch their heads and ask why the yanks cant internet.
5G
4G isnt even a consistent carrier definition in the US because marketing wanketeers took the standard on like a kid at a pinata party. And again, to emphasize, the number in front of the "G" in the United States is completely arbitrary and means nothing when carriers set the speed with impunity. For americans like myself, this article is just reporting on four of the largest multinational conglomerates deciding to offer a brand to customers.
Good people go to bed earlier.
Yeah, REAL 5G isn't going to be out that soon
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LhECDSuXRDs
The 5G shit they are releasing next year is just LTE Advanced Pro being sold as "5G". Just like the scams cellular carriers were pulling with calling later generations of HSPA "4G". Real 5G won't be hitting the mass market till around the 2020's
Use your allowance in 5 microseconds. Zero to $5000 bill in half a minute.
That's what I'm expecting to be the next generation of mobile Internet. I mean, they still brag about "loads of data" next to 500 MB/month allowance, and still have 100 MB/month of data "as standard" everywhere. I don't remember if they also advertise 4G next to those allowances, but it's not impossible.
"Everybody's naked underneath" -- The Doctor
On call 24/7.
Cafe owners breathe a sigh of relief as "free wifi" no longer a drawcard for telecommuting zombies.
But the devil is in the data plan. The definirion of 'unlimited' will be subject to fair use.
This, like Qualcomm's version is Fake 5G. 5G hasn't been locked down yet. It hasn't even been submitted to IMT yet.
Real computers can't be on data connections to cell phone towers. One freaking Windows Update can be over 1 GB not to mention all the auto-updating software not to mention netflix and youtube. This would be disastrous. Nobody wants this.
as long eSIM can't not be carrier locked
I remember those days. At the time, Sprint would not let any machines off their network, nor allow anything on their network that wasn't sold with a their label, saying it was done to ensure device quality. Nothing like waiting on hold for 30-45 minutes for something that I could on a GSM network in seconds.
Heck with eSIMs. Not interested in going back to the Dark Ages.
1GB can cost 15K-20K with some roaming plans
Don't ya love getting preinstalled hardware exploits you cant really fix
cant remember last time i booted my home pc ,and most of my corporate day can be done off a 35$ raspberry pi , i spend my 9 to 5 in shell writing puppet modules so really i have no more need for a 1500$ PC or even a 500$ one. the age of PC is done , a relic of late 1900 .
Its not enough that Intel ME could upload all PC data even when your PC is turned off as long as a network cable was plugged in and it had power. Now if your PC is anywhere close to a cell tower, open network, or plugged in to network, Intel owns it completely. Next they will ship "smart" TVs with 5g always connected. They are already trying this with cars. This is part of a greater corporate move to make consumers rent and never own their own devices. In times past when a consumer wanted to resist this move they simply didn't download updates, or if forced they would not connect to the internet. This 3g/4g/5g on everything is a move to finally and completely control the devices consumers paid for.
Thought ad was suppose to be the next big thing after ac but I can't find ad devices anywhere and only a few routers support ad. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wik...
my karma will be here long after I'm gone
5g was standardized?
I may even wait for 7G. That will be the shizzle . . .
"I believe in Karma. That means I can do bad things to people all day long and I assume they deserve it." : Dogbert
Now we can't have all those privacy advocates out there with a computer they can actually disconnect from 'the network' by simply unplugging the network cable, can we! Just like our phones, these computers need to be able to spy on our activity and phone home all that data they collected on us, even though we specifically said NO to such collection in the first place.
you actually can set an internet connection as 'metered' in Windows 10 so that it doesn't go crazy with updates and the like.
I thought the GUI to set media cost in Windows 10 worked only for WLAN connections, not wired Ethernet, and setting the media cost of wired Ethernet (such as with a satellite or cellular upstream) still required poking around in the registry. Has this changed?
But we'll still be stuck with painfully-slow PCIe 3.0, which prevents any hardware from getting reasonable bandwidth accessing main memory.
>> Intel, Microsoft, Dell, HP and Lenovo Expect PCs ... To Ship Next Year
Wait a minute, they expect to sell PCs next year ???
PCs are a declining business.
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