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Germany Says Government Network Was Breached (bbc.com)

An anonymous reader shares a report from The Wall Street Journal (Warning: source may be paywalled; alternative source): German authorities said on Wednesday they were investigating a security breach of the government's highly protected computer network. The country's intelligence agencies were examining attacks on more than one government ministry, the interior ministry said, adding that the affected departments had been informed and that the attack had been isolated and brought under control. Earlier on Wednesday, the German news agency DPA reported that German security services had discovered a breach of the government's IT network in December and traced it back to state-sponsored Russian hackers. German companies have been the target of sustained attacks by state-sponsored hackers, mainly believed to be Chinese. In 2015, the Bundestag, parliament's lower house, suffered a extensive breach, leading to the theft of several gigabytes of data by what German security officials believe were Russian cyberthieves. Hackers believed to be part of the Russia-linked APT28 group sought to infiltrate the computer systems of several German political parties in 2016, Germany's domestic intelligence agency said in 2016.

30 comments

  1. No wonder /. went down then. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Uber Alles, bitte. Either that or Hope Hicks porn is trending, either way the internet is broken from now on.

  2. Right wingers go "No, Russia is cool man!" by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

    Must have been Hillary Clinton. Russia is awesome since they helped us win the election!

    Erm.. I mean, since they didn't help us win the election! That's just crazy talk! Russia would never do anything like that! They're cool, man! Don't be a narc!

    1. Re:Right wingers go "No, Russia is cool man!" by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Dude, as a totally impartial Australian observer, I don't even see the point in arguing over the election. You had the choice between a shit sandwich and a turd burger. The turd burger won. America lost. If the shit sandwich had of won, America still would have lost. Russia is the least of your worries, but fuck me, it makes a good distraction doesn't it?

    2. Re:Right wingers go "No, Russia is cool man!" by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Random Russian hackers have been hacking things since there was an internet. Same for China... or the USA.

      Also, Obama was tapping Merkel's phones so... yeah.

    3. Re:Right wingers go "No, Russia is cool man!" by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Dude, as a totally impartial Australian observer, I don't even see the point in arguing over the election. You had the choice between a shit sandwich and a turd burger. The turd burger won. America lost. If the shit sandwich had of won, America still would have lost. Russia is the least of your worries, but fuck me, it makes a good distraction doesn't it?

      This is just an angry Democrat that will complain no matter what the situation is if it resulted in a party member losing. Most people, I hope, are not so dedicated to a particular party.

      Perhaps it makes them feel better about being on the losing side if they can find an explanation, like the Russians hacked into the American voters minds and made them hate Hillary Clinton, rather than them already hating her.

    4. Re: Right wingers go "No, Russia is cool man!" by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Yawn, wake me up when gov ever says the opposite.

    5. Re:Right wingers go "No, Russia is cool man!" by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      You had the choice between a shit sandwich and a turd burger.

      Anything in particular you had against Hillary?
      Everyone says she was a bad candidate, but in retrospect it seems like the arguments are non-existing and it was mostly just an idea pushed by paid Russian trolls.
      The main problem with her seems to be that she wasn't all that exciting.

      Looks a lot like it was the choice between a week old stale sandwich and a turd burger and the Russian marketing team made people go for the turd burger because is was fresh.

    6. Re:Right wingers go "No, Russia is cool man!" by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Russia isn't the least of our worries when they are sponsoring the shit sandwich through blackmail and espionage, 'mate' - crikey that's dumb.

    7. Re:Right wingers go "No, Russia is cool man!" by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I'm an impartial international third party as well, I just love watching the drama and both sides pretending they're on the right side of history, and the mental gymnastics each sides use as circumstances change.

    8. Re:Right wingers go "No, Russia is cool man!" by sydbarrett74 · · Score: 1

      Russia is the least of your worries

      Putin is a KGB-cancer snake in the grass. He seeks nothing less than the restoration and subsequent expansion of the USSR. And he is playing the long game. People also underestimated Hitler as 'that Mickey Mouse from Austria with a funny moustache'. That didn't turn out very well, either.

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      'He who has to break a thing to find out what it is, has left the path of wisdom.' -- Gandalf to Saruman
  3. GDPR by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Good thing this happened before GDPR kicked in, otherwise they would have to pay a truly massive fine!

  4. Another Russian hacking story? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Bad Slashdot, you only do this because of the guaranteed clicks from all the fine impartial folks mocking the idea that Russians go round hacking computers.

  5. Hire an expert by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    They should consult an astrologist.

    1. Re:Hire an expert by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      astrologer

    2. Re:Hire an expert by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      We spell it ass-troll-logger around here.

  6. Of course by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    They should not have returned to windows and stayed with Linux.

    1. Re: Of course by prefec2 · · Score: 1

      This only applies to the ministry of foreign affairs. The defence/military ministry was using the good stuff from the US all day long. However, defence is not the core competence of they ministry. Instead they mastered mismanagement and incompetence, e.g., broken submarines, marine helicopters that do rust over the ocean, illegal drones, guns that do not work in hot conditions etc.

  7. Russians everywhere by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    No surprise Russia abandoned daylight saving time, in that way they have a full hour more of hacking the world. It seems they are not doing anything else anymore, probably even Vodka consumption plummeted .... Russians, Russians everywhere!

    Has Russia already hacked Mars? Was a Russian hack involved in the assassination of Lincoln and Kennedy? Hang on, now I think there is a clear Russian connection to my latest bluescreen ....

    1. Re: Russians everywhere by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      probably even Vodka consumption plummeted .... Russians, Russians everywhere!

      Lots of Vodka is imported from Germany. Simply cheaper to produce there.

    2. Re: Russians everywhere by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      German vodka cheaper than Russian, how can that be (leaving aside that Germany is too far west to make good vodka)?

  8. The German experts found by AHuxley · · Score: 2

    Easy to discover Bear code litter left all over the once pristine German server again?
    An ip range that can only be Russian?
    Was it a work day and within working hours in Russia?

    So what do the Germans do after their cyber failure and having "suffered a extensive breach"?
    Call in experts to do secret cyber things and never tell Russia that it did an "extensive breach"?
    Tell the media in 30-50 years how cyber experts countered Russia?
    Go running to the media in real time to tell of the "extensive breach" with no regard for German cyber security?
    Reading about "security" issues in real time is not allowed if anything was really security related.

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    Domestic spying is now "Benign Information Gathering"
    1. Re: The German experts found by prefec2 · · Score: 2

      The attack happened in December not yesterday. We live in a democracy (most of the time) therefore they have to inform the public. The parliament and the press are pissed because they have not been informed sooner. Also the Russians, if they were the criminals, know want they took.

    2. Re:The German experts found by Plus1Entropy · · Score: 1

      Yeah, why trust security "experts" when some knob on /. who never provides a shed of evidence for any of the crap they spout can just make things up?

      Hows that rural broadband coming?

      --
      Only crack the nuts that crack. You don't put the ones that don't crack in the sack.
    3. Re:The German experts found by PolygamousRanchKid+ · · Score: 2

      Go running to the media in real time to tell of the "extensive breach" with no regard for German cyber security?

      Running to the media and claiming a threat from a foreign country diverts attention from internal political problems back home.

      Like the Diesel scandal.

      The government networking folks can now run to parliament and demand a massive budget increase to deal with this Russian Hacker Mine Shaft Gap.

      Standard political maneuvering.

      --
      Schroedinger's Brexit: The UK is both in and out of the EU at the same time!
    4. Re: The German experts found by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      AHuxley is Russian shill.

    5. Re:The German experts found by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Yeah, sure make a false dichotomy out of it. In reality both might be true. They try to cover up shit and state sponsored hackers from Russia attacked them as well.

  9. Yet more Russian bogeyman waffle by najajomo · · Score: 2

    "German security services had discovered a breach of the government's IT network in December and traced it back to state-sponsored Russian hacker"

    New NSA leaks show how US is bugging its European allies

    NSA tapped German Chancellery for decades, WikiLeaks claims

  10. Russia together with the ISIS? by mackul · · Score: 2

    Usually, ISIS or other islamistic terrorists leave their passports – so the Russians must somehow have learned from them to leave a digital trace or fingerprint that allows the clever German authorities (paid by my taxes, I'm sooo proud of them, really!) to identify the attackers the same authorities that did not realize that they've been hacked for about a year (for the second time, by the way). Is anybody else feeling treated like a stupid shitbag by stupid shitbags here?

  11. How about NSA? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I guess NSA is also state sponsored right? and it was listening Merkel's office? now how is this more sinister than that?

  12. of course by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Let's be realistic: Is there any network in the world that is not compromised on in one why or another?
    I guess there are people enough claiming that their network has never been hacked but I really believe that they are hacked but they just don't know it.
    The whole internet, and by extension the whole computing community, has become so complex that it's unavoidable that there is a security problem somewhere in the chain. Your DSL modem, you PC with Intel CPU, your windows operating systems, your wifi setup, the hotspot, some nice java script,....