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Trump Promises Copyright Crackdown As DoJ Takes Aim At Streaming Pirates (torrentfreak.com)

An anonymous reader quotes a report from TorrentFreak: Yesterday, a panel discussion on the challenges associated with piracy from streaming media boxes took place on Capitol Hill. Hosted by the Information Technology and Innovation Foundation (ITIF), "Unboxing the Piracy Threat of Streaming Media Boxes" (video) went ahead with some big name speakers in attendance, not least Neil Fried, Senior Vice President, Federal Advocacy and Regulatory Affairs at the MPAA. ITIF and various industry groups tweeted many interesting comments throughout the event. Kevin Madigan from Center for the Protection of Intellectual Property told the panel that torrent-based content "is becoming obsolete" in an on-demand digital environment that's switching to streaming-based piracy. "There's a criminal enterprise going on here that's stealing content and making a profit," Fried told those in attendance. "The piracy activity out there is bad, it's hurting a lot of economic activity & creators aren't being compensated for their work," he added.

And then, of course, we come to President Trump. Not usually that vocal on matters of intellectual property and piracy, yesterday -- perhaps coincidentally, perhaps not -- he suddenly delivered one of his "something is coming" tweets. "The U.S. is acting swiftly on Intellectual Property theft," Trump tweeted. "We cannot allow this to happen as it has for many years!" Given Trump's tendency to focus on problems overseas causing issues for companies back home, a comment by Kevin Madigan during the panel yesterday immediately comes to mind. "To combat piracy abroad, USTR needs to work with the creative industries to improve enforcement and target the source of pirated material," Madigan said.

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  1. Target the source. by dgatwood · · Score: 3, Insightful

    Isn't the source... the movie/TV industry?

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    1. Re:Target the source. by jwymanm · · Score: 5, Insightful

      That's what I was thinking. Not delivering content without high prices, ads that you can't fast forward even if you purchased the damn media and "license to use it." Constant forever extensions of copyright law..

    2. Re: Target the source. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

      Be honest. There is only one type of video Trump wants to protect. And he is in it.

    3. Re:Target the source. by jwhyche · · Score: 2

      Constant forever extensions of copyright law..

      Blame Mickey Mouse

      Actually, I kind of understand why the house of mouse wants to do this. From their point of view it makes perfect sense.

      The very first Disney movies and cartoons will fall in to public domain soon. That doesn't just mean any one can pick them up and show them. That means any one can just pick them up and make a version and clam owner ship of them.

      Tom Sawyer is in the public domain. I can take the story, replace Mark Twain's name with my own, and claim it as my story. With it being in the public domain I can't stop somebody from doing the same thing but that is one of the thing Disney is worried about.

      That, and the fact they want to continue to rape the mouse for every buck they can get. Lets not be completely foolish about it and not recognize the other goals too.

      I don't agree with the approach that companies want unlimited copy right. Copyrights by nature are supposed to be a limited time thing. Maybe after a certain amount of time copy rights should be like trademarks. They become only valid if you defend them.

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  2. Streaming pirate by PopeRatzo · · Score: 4, Funny

    When I drink a lot of rum, I become a streaming pirate.

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    1. Re:Streaming pirate by drinkypoo · · Score: 2

      And then you go in the sauna and come out a steaming pirate!

      And then you go in the barrel and he comes out a reaming pirate.

      Then he takes a nap and he's a dreaming pirate.

      (Possibly just after becoming a creaming pirate)

      (Maybe I have the wrong users involved ... is that what "creimer" means?)

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  3. Excellent by 110010001000 · · Score: 4, Informative

    Lets let the wars drag on for decades, but we need to take a stand now for copyright!

    1. Re:Excellent by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Insightful

      Lets let the wars drag on for decades, but we need to take a stand now for copyright!

      The clause states that the United States Congress shall have power "To promote the Progress of Science and useful Arts, by securing for limited Times to Authors and Inventors the exclusive Right to their respective Writings and Discoveries."

      The biggest area that needs attention is the "limited Times" clause. A human is going to live, on average, less than a hundred years. A limited time should be viewed with respect to that basis. 25 seems reasonable to me.

      Limit copyright of the original material to 25 years. Now if people want to change one pixel and apply again, I'm fine with that, but the original material to be protected should be stored in digital form with the Library of Congress or similar, such that anyone can use it for any reason after 25 years. It should be stored such that it can be copied without problems. For things released on DVD or CD it would mean unencrypted DVD or CD information.

      That is the area that needs fixed. If you don't have a digital copy on file for anything you can reasonably be expected to have a digital copy of, then you have no protection for it, or any derivative works. None of this crap where you DRM every thing to death, and then make sure it stays DRM until the stuff has no value because you don't want the old material in the public domain, lest it compete with new material.

      As far as Trump goes, I doubt he cares that much unless they are his shoddy products. He probably was just repeating what the last guy who talked with him told him.

    2. Re:Excellent by Darinbob · · Score: 4, Interesting

      Actually one of the very first things they did after the US had nominal control of Baghdad, before realizing it was hard to do nation building than they thought, was to try and get the locally appointed legislature to pass some laws. Amongst the laws that the US was intent on pushing through quickly, was an agreement on copyright, patents, and other IP issues. Seriously, that was what they thought was high priority; before getting the country's infrastructure working again we had to make sure that Mickey Mouse was wasn't pirated.

    3. Re:Excellent by drinkypoo · · Score: 2

      Seriously, that was what they thought was high priority; before getting the country's infrastructure working again we had to make sure that Mickey Mouse was wasn't pirated.

      That's what the Gates Foundation thinks is high priority, too. You can't get vaccinations from them unless you institute strong IP law that will have the drug companies owning your ass down the road.

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    4. Re:Excellent by Rhipf · · Score: 2

      Actually the " to Authors and Inventors the exclusive Right to their respective Writings and Discoveries" might also need looking at. Most copyrights are held by large corporations. These corporations are neither "Authors" nor "inventors". They may hire authors and inventors but the corporation itself is neither.

  4. No Money To Spare by rtb61 · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Let's be honest, regardless of the infinite greed of publishers and extreme desire on their part for extreme poseur status, there is no fucking money left in the economy to pay for their fucking delusions, it's called austerity morons, get fucking used to it. Right now their content and the psuedo celebrities are reaching all time lows in popularity mainly because of the collapse of the saturation advertising model, simply too many venues for advertising for too many products and dilution to insignificance for ads across all platforms. Austerity, people will not starve themselves to buy shitty content, the pseudo celebrities just look like any other egoistic blogger, in fact the pseudo celebrities are forced to act like typical youtubers ie https://www.youtube.com/watch?... (don't bother watching it through just get an idea of the content) because they and their message have become insignificant except for the most gullible believers.

    So they crap on about copying content, as people go hungry, as the middle class is crapped on (the people with the real power), as the poorest a living on the streets, the insanity of insatiable greed, never ever having enough, not matter how many that greed kills.

    Don't expect to sell high priced content to hungry people and expect those hungry people to hate egoistic poseur pseudo celebrities rubbing the poverty of the poor into the face of the poor, starve fuckers, I need my private jet.

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  5. Why don't you address the real issue. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Informative

    Start redistributing 99% or the worlds wealth and people may feel they have a bit left to give back.

    I don't think anyone feels that bad about not giving more of their cash to some entitled 1%ers.

    Until I'm a 1%er, fuck 'em all.

  6. Piracy helps sales by malditaenvidia · · Score: 3, Insightful

    Yet the film and other entertainment industries keep posting record years in terms of profits. Piracy has been proven not only not to hurt, but help sales of video games.
    If it can be played it can be copied, they're completely unequipped to deal with piracy, even with the net neutrality repeal in effect.

  7. Wait, what? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Informative

    You lost me at "Trump Promises..."

    He promised that Mexico was going to pay for the wall. And that that pipeline would be built with American steel. And that he'd be too busy working to have time to go golfing.

    Trump's promises might be worth a dollar, but only if he writes them on a dollar bill.

  8. Wrong is wrong by SuperKendall · · Score: 2

    Don't expect to sell high priced content to hungry people

    Obviously that all is true. But it doesn't change the fact that someone else taking that content and making even a small amount of money form it is wrong.

    I don't really begrudge the people just torrenting movies or whatever. But if you are buying bootleg DVD's, or streaming from a site that has ads - someone is making money of that in a way that is not deserved, and is simply wrong...

    There is also the aspect of yet another way of breaking the law becoming socially acceptable, which weakens all laws. I agree the costs should come way down for media - but in a way have they not? Yes renting a movie is pretty expensive. But you can also subscribe to Starz or HBO for just $10/month now and get scores of movies, or subscribe to Netflix and get a ton of content.

    The rest of it will naturally follow as really expensive media gets squeezed to go to lower prices. But that does not justify other people making some amount of money from it, does not mean that can continue to happen without consequence.

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  9. Re:Yes, definitely go hog wild by JonnyCalcutta · · Score: 2

    You are so wrong! There is no streaming piracy - it doesn't exist. Its a myth. Even thinking about streaming piracy is a waste of time since as a technology its dead in the water. 100% of piracy in via torrents, usenet and irc which are the growth technologies - they will probably keep growing for decades to come and its what all the cool kids are moving to. If you want to Make America Great Again they must devote all their resources to the elimination of the Axis of Evil - Torrents, Usenet and IRC!

    Remember people -

    "Torrents, Usenet and IRC
    They're the cause of the piracy
    To stop it all dead
    Shoot them in the head
    Torrents, Usenet and IRC"

  10. Re: Wrong is wrong ,,nieve by edris90 · · Score: 2, Interesting

    Our entire judicial system was founded and designed based on a number of primary intrisic ethical imperative s. One of which is that better for 10 guilty men to go free then for one innocent man to suffer. Is it in the public interest to allocate Real World Resources that are needed more elsewhere, to persecute people who do not pose a personal danger to anyone. Intellectual property is not compatible with the nature of information. It is unenforceable. Unnatural, a tremendous drain on national resources. It absolutely curtails innovation. It prevents ability share information to build and improve on the efforts of others . It Is a failed business concept kept afloat by thug tactics and forced cooperation put in play by compromised government officials

  11. Re:Copyright trolls are the problem by butzwonker · · Score: 3, Insightful

    No, the problem is not "IP" itself but the fact that current "IP" law is uniquely designed to aid large corporations and harm the actual artists. The power relation between artist and large publishers are totally asymmetric. The fix: Bind copyright to the artists for 25 years, after which all works enter the public domain, and make sure that contract law is adjusted so that the artists can cancel any contract about their creation, i.e., they can temporarily transfer their creations to companies for marketing and monetization, but it is not possible to buy the copyright to some artwork and the artist can always cancel the contract and set up a new contract with another publisher.

    That would be a pretty hefty change of contract law but it would solve the problem. The problem is that artists are forced to enter contracts that are not in their own interest (e.g. "360 contracts" in record industry), because they are already at the lowest end of the food chain. There is nothing wrong with protecting original artwork for 15 or 25 years. The problem is that right now the whole system is rigged 100% towards large corporations who exploit both artists and customers.

    Patreon and alternative distribution channels have shown that people are perfectly willing to pay artists for their work. They just don't want to give their money to Time Warner so some fat old producer can literally fuck an aspiring new artist in his mansion before she gets a job.