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UFO Disclosure Group Releases Newest Navy F/A-18 Super Hornet UFO Encounter Video (cnn.com)

alaskana98 writes: CNN and other media outlets are reporting that the "To The Stars Academy of Arts and Science" group has released the third in a series of videos purportedly showing an encounter between Navy F/A-18 Super Hornet pilots and an object moving at seemingly impossible speeds off the East Coast of the United States. The video was captured by the Raytheon: Advanced Targeting Forward-Looking Infrared (ATFLIR) pod and includes audio of the pilots excitedly observing this object from far above as it zooms over the ocean surface. The ATFLIR system has trouble getting a lock on the object at first but then gets a lock on it eventually demonstrating that whatever this this was it wasn't a figment of the pilots imaginations. If the video is authentic there are indeed some strange things flying in our skies. The video can be viewed here.

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  1. Obviously by I'm+New+Around+Here · · Score: 4, Funny

    They found Jonathon Livingston Seagull.

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  2. Nothing to see by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

    Looks like a weather balloon to me.

  3. Re:25kft? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 4, Informative

    Yes, flying at a level altitude within relatively tight tolerances is one of the very first things they teach you when getting your pilots license.

  4. Re:25kft? by BlacKSacrificE · · Score: 3, Insightful

    A solid "B" on the ASQ-228 altimeter indicates the system was in barometric altitude mode (R would be RADAR altitude).. Perhaps the flashing means the area barometric pressure had not been set and as such, the altimeter is not to be referenced/frozen at the last known good altitude? Does seem odd now you have pointed that out..

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  5. UFO by aepervius · · Score: 5, Insightful

    UFO means unknown flying object. UFO does not mean alien. Just my 23 cents to those who will jump to conclusion. My own hypothesis are that the explanation are immensely far more likely to be something mundane which cannot be proven but neither can it be discarded, e.g. some dust before the equipment, insects or equally mundane stuff. Alien do not even come in the top 5.

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    1. Re:UFO by swb · · Score: 4, Insightful

      I think you're discounting the experience of fighter pilots. They have hundreds (some thousands) of hours of flight time and a lot of experience not to mention a lot of classroom education devoted to understanding aviation platforms they will encounter and the complexities and contradictions involved in tracking other flying objects (many of which may not be manned, like missiles). They're literally world-class experts at in-flight interception of flying objects.

      If these guys are surprised and mystified by something they encounter in flight, I'm willing to accept it's a pretty unusual anomaly. It doesn't mean little green men, but the other extreme implies they're inexperienced or naive, which is even less likely.

  6. And? by Gravis+Zero · · Score: 2, Insightful

    Why has /. stooped to the level of publishing UFO conspiracy bullshit? I call it bullshit because it lacks any substance of real information. "The video is of something... but we don't know what exactly but it's definitely a thing!" Great... when you find out what it is then you will have a story. Until then you should stfu.

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    1. Re:And? by taylorius · · Score: 5, Insightful

      You do know what the letters UFO stand for, right?

  7. Not all that fast by Lonewolf666 · · Score: 5, Interesting

    If you follow the video from 1:35 to 1:55, the range displayed on the screen drops from 4.4 nautical miles to 3.4.
    That's 0.1 mile per second or 185 m/s. The speed of the F18 itself and the shifting angle makes calculating the speed of the UFO more difficult, but it looks looks like the object is approaching the plane rather than flying away. So part of the 185 m/s are from the F18's own speed. As a rough guess, the thing was doing perhaps Mach 0.5. There are a lot of man-made objects that can do that. A drone maybe?

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    1. Re:Not all that fast by jandrese · · Score: 2

      This is so often the case with UFO conspiracies. You find one out of the ordinary situation and embellish the crap out of it to make it sound mysterious.

      Claim: UFO was making impossible maneuvers!
      Evidence: UFO appears to be flying in a straight line

      Claim: UFO was moving at an impossible speed
      Evidence: UFO was traveling at about Mach 0.5

      Claim: UFO was at an impossible altitude
      Evidence: UFO was flying low, possibly to avoid civilian radar.

      Claim: UFO disappeared from RADAR suddenly
      Evidence: UFO flew out of RADAR range.

      This is why it is so hard to take these claims seriously. The people who make them have long since lost all credibility outside of their echo chamber.

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  8. Parallax movement for stationary object by DrTJ · · Score: 5, Informative

    The motion of the water is upwards/right. If they were filming with a constant pan/tilt the water would appear moving down/left given their heading.
    Now, they locked the camera tracking at the object (at somewhere between 0 and 25k ft) and that would make the water appear to move upwards/right even if the object wasn't moving at all, due to the parallax effect. This is similar to how a street light appears to move relative to the background (when you look at it, i.e. track it), while the background and the light in fact are stationary, you're just changing perspective when you drive along the road.

    So, it is entirely possible to get this effect with a very slow moving, or even stationary, object due to the parallax. The "apparent fast linear motion" is also consistent with the fast linear motion of the aircraft.

    It could be a drone, a bird, or even a bag floating in the air. To tell otherwise, one would need more information, primarily the of the FoV of the camera.

  9. impossible conclusions from the evidence by bloodhawk · · Score: 4, Insightful

    The video doesn't seem to provide evidence of "impossible speed", without knowing the distance to the object the angle of the camera plus the movement of the jet could mean this is anything from impossible speed to a slow moving object that the camera is making appear fast.

  10. Re: Show me some G force god damnit! by c6gunner · · Score: 4, Insightful

    The portion containing "move/bank/turn at a rate that exceeds current flight technologies" are deemed to be not-for-civilian-consumption, and have been redacted accordingly.

    Remember folks; if the data is missing, it's because the conspirators hid it. And if the data directly contradicts your hypothesis, it's clearly fake data planted by the conspirators!!!1!

  11. Re: The lock on means a solid object by c6gunner · · Score: 2, Insightful

    But I clearly can tell from the difficult time at first the pilot had at first locking on that the object was moving fast and did not have any wings.

    I clearly can tell that you pulled that conclusion out of your ass.

  12. Re:25kft? by PolygamousRanchKid+ · · Score: 4, Funny

    They were flying at exactly 25k feet for the entire segment of that video?

    Alien feet, not human feet.

    There's an equation to convert alien feet into the size of Wales, but it's too big to fit in the margin of this page . . .

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  13. Sigh. by ledow · · Score: 4, Insightful

    I absolutely agree 100%.

    It's a UFO. It's apparently flying (but that's not proven). It's apparently an object (but that's got a given either). And we don't know what it is.

    And?

    To be honest, it fits all the classic hallmarks of "UFO as aliens" sightings, from the scale, to the speed, to being just a blob. I'm really disappointed that people are still doing this stuff in 2018...

    But I'm much more disappointed that Slashdot sees fit to make an article of it.

    1. Re:Sigh. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 4, Funny

      O, I don't agree.
      I didn't read the article (nothing new there).
      I didn't watch the video.
      What I did, was read the comments. The comments alone makes it worth /. posting this, imo.

  14. Re: The lock on means a solid object by Applehu+Akbar · · Score: 4, Funny

    "...I am trained in gorilla warfare "

    Mano a mano?

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  16. Re: Show me some G force god damnit! by houghi · · Score: 4, Funny

    I wanted to verify your claim, but found no data on the subject. Ergo : you are right.

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  17. Re: Show me some G force god damnit! by dwillden · · Score: 2

    Actually the entire thing is a conspiracy planted by the conspirators to distract us from the real conspiracy, an attempt to cover up the fact that Al Bundy once scored four touchdowns in a game for Polk High School to win the High School City Championship for Chicago

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  18. Re:Flying high? by ceoyoyo · · Score: 2

    When a couple of F-16 pilots dropped a bomb on allies in Afghanistan, part of their defence was that they were high on speed (as ordered), so possibly not that far off.

  19. Re:Thanks for the autoplay clickbait, Miss Mash! by lgw · · Score: 3, Informative

    Somebody needs to shadow-ban you and all other off-topic trolls.

    This is Slashdot. We started with trolls and they're part of the culture, from appy apps to cows to GNAA. You seem to be looking for Reddit.

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  20. Re:I want to believe, but by GameboyRMH · · Score: 2

    You know you don't understand the basics of programming when you say that stuff.

    Funny, I'm beginning to think the same thing about you, but I'll give you the benefit of the doubt and assume that you're not reading my posts carefully.

    Yes, there is a single bit that stores the boolean value about if the current state is "locked" or "not locked."

    Sure, quite likely there is. But like I said, there is no one bit for "lock onto this visible phenomena in the infrared video feed in particular."

    Yeah, says who, Harry Potter? It locked onto something, and that something might very well have been nothing! Do you comprehend any of your own words? Waving your hands doesn't cause you to have knowledge of why the target lock indicator was or wasn't on you nincompoop.

    It takes some seriously magical thinking to think that the visible thing that the system locked onto was also some kind of glitch that matches perfectly with the targeting system glitch. If you understand anything about how digital video signals work, you'd know that the odds of a glitch producing that flying blip in the video are roughly equal to the odds of a glitch superimposing images of a breakdancing William Shakespeare. Glitches in video tend to produce multicolored garbage that looks...glitchy, usually localized or banded coloring artifacts. The odds of the targeting system randomly locking onto the exact point in space that such an incredibly improbable glitch appears to be moving through are astronomical, making the possibility absurd.

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  21. Induction by psone · · Score: 2

    From data collected by a sensor at th edge of its specs we make a handful of inductive inferences: it travels, by flight, fast, at a low altitude, with little to no observable turbulence. Thatâ(TM)s still far from solid proof that itâ(TM)s actually an aircraft with unseen capabilities. It might be a UFO, at best it may be a UAP.