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Android Wear Needs More Than a New Name To Fight Apple Watch (cnet.com)

Less than two months before Google I/O, Google has rebranded its Android Wear watch platform to "Wear OS." The recent name change is part of a move to have its watches stand apart from Android, but it could also indicate that Google's smartwatch strategy is about to shift. Google may release a completely new Wear OS focused on the Google Assistant or a Google-branded smartwatch. Scott Stein writes via CNET that Android Wear needs more than a new name to fight the Apple Watch: The Apple Watch took over the top spot in global wearable sales recently, according to IDC, despite the fact that it's only compatible with iPhones. Fitbit just announced the Versa, a promising casual smartwatch that will interface with any iPhone or Android and starts at just $200. The wearable market is growing. But where is Google in that picture? The Fossil Group, maker of many of the Android Wear watch products last year, reported some promising numbers: "In 2017, Fossil Group nearly doubled its wearables business to more than $300 million, including 20 percent of watch sales in Q4," said Greg McKelvey, Fossil's chief strategy and digital officer, as part of Google's Wear OS announcement. So it sounds like Android Wear -- sorry, Wear OS -- is still in the game. But the problem, for me, is that I've never found Android Wear watches to be particularly great. Google relaunched Android Wear over a year ago with new software and added fitness smarts, plus standalone phone functions. But Apple's watch strategy has advanced faster, with better hardware. The Apple Watch S3 can be a phone, now. So can Samsung's Gear S3, which runs on Tizen. Google, meanwhile, stopped adding cellular functions to watches after the lackluster LG Watch Sport last year.

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  1. Nobody cares. by Bing+Tsher+E · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Smart Watches have flopped. I bought a Pebble, but am back to a $30 Casio. Most people wear no watch at all, and have no intent to do so.

    1. Re:Nobody cares. by sexconker · · Score: 1

      Ding ding ding!

      Stop trying to make smart watches happen. They're not going to happen.

    2. Re:Nobody cares. by DontBeAMoran · · Score: 2

      I'm more interested in the health monitoring aspects of smart watches than anything else. The screen is too small to be useful for anything else than monitoring and displaying the time and date anyway.

      And what I really want is a health watch that DOES NOT NEED a freakin' smartphone.

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    3. Re:Nobody cares. by arth1 · · Score: 1

      They generally fail at being a watch. Either the battery life is abysmal compared to regular watches where batteries last for years, or you have to push buttons to get them to operate.

      That said, what does make sense are the fitness trackers with heart rate monitors, step counters and sleep monitoring. As long as they also have a decent battery life. The Apple watches fail completely on that account, and can't even track a full day.

    4. Re:Nobody cares. by fluffernutter · · Score: 2

      I respect just a normal analog watch. It's simple, it does the job, and you only need to change the battery once every few years.

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    5. Re:Nobody cares. by Xenx · · Score: 2

      They've already happened. Trying to say they're not going to happen is just idiocy or lunacy. The problem comes from businesses always thinking about growing a market. The market for smart watches exists, it's just not for everybody. It's not even necessarily for most people. Also, similar to tablets, smart watches aren't as needed due to having smartphones around. They're also not as likely to drive as frequent of repeat sales. People don't care as much about having the absolutely newest tablet or smart watch. They're a secondary device that don't need to be as cutting edge.

    6. Re:Nobody cares. by fluffernutter · · Score: 1

      Why the hell do people need to monitor themselves all... the.. time. One piece of advice from weight loss lifestyle changes is not to weigh yourself every day. It's not like these sensors are accurate enough to replace a valid medical monitor. It can be too much.

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    7. Re:Nobody cares. by b0s0z0ku · · Score: 1

      I'd be interested if I could link the watch directly to my computer via cable or local network. I don't need to "care and share" personal health data with the clown ... I mean cloud ... thank you very much.

    8. Re:Nobody cares. by Trogre · · Score: 1

      I think I'll stick with my Gear, thanks.

      Four day battery life, seamless phone integration with better speaker/mic than actual phone, and it's Tizen so I can write my own damn apps for it.

      Not waterproof enough for swimming, but I can live with that.

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    9. Re:Nobody cares. by farble1670 · · Score: 2

      They generally fail at being a watch.

      That's like saying your laptop fails at being a calculator. It uses way more energy, it's 100x bigger, it doesn't fit in your pocket, and doesn't have a dedicated keypad. Smartwatches are watches only in how they are generally shaped and worn on the body. In all other respects they are mobile devices, like your phone or a tablet. They are marketed as "watches" because that's a familiar concept to people but functionally they are not similar.

    10. Re:Nobody cares. by farble1670 · · Score: 1

      I respect just a normal analog watch. It's simple, it does the job, and you only need to change the battery once every few years.

      If all you want / need to do is tell time, then you are surely right, a smart watch isn't for you.

    11. Re:Nobody cares. by mschwanke97402 · · Score: 1

      Smart Watches have flopped. I bought a Pebble, but am back to a $30 Casio. Most people wear no watch at all, and have no intent to do so.

      And yet Apple is selling somewhere north of 15 million a year at $300 a pop or more. Not the next big thing but $4.5 Billion is not pocket change either.

    12. Re:Nobody cares. by Bing+Tsher+E · · Score: 1

      You can use bluetooth to connect devices that are not connected to any other network.

    13. Re:Nobody cares. by DontBeAMoran · · Score: 2

      Why the hell do people need to monitor themselves all... the... time.

      Wait until you're older.

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    14. Re:Nobody cares. by chispito · · Score: 1

      They generally fail at being a watch.

      That's like saying your laptop fails at being a calculator. It uses way more energy, it's 100x bigger, it doesn't fit in your pocket, and doesn't have a dedicated keypad. Smartwatches are watches only in how they are generally shaped and worn on the body. In all other respects they are mobile devices, like your phone or a tablet. They are marketed as "watches" because that's a familiar concept to people but functionally they are not similar.

      Except having a clock on your wrist has proven to be very useful for over a hundred years, so there's a reason that people would prioritize that function. Knowing when your neighbor's cousin liked your Instagram post... well, I think most of us don't recognize the same utility.

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    15. Re:Nobody cares. by msauve · · Score: 1

      "Flopped?" They'd have to first be a success in order to flop. They're a solution looking for a problem.

      Time? Timex, FTW!

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    16. Re:Nobody cares. by clay_buster · · Score: 3, Insightful

      Apple sold 18 million watches in 2017. There are a lot of companies that would like that type of "flop".

      I stopped wearing a watch until I got my Series 2. It is a great fitness monitor, texting device and remote volume control for my music. Custom watch faces are fun though rarely changed. I like the map navigation app when I remember to use it while walking to a new place.

    17. Re:Nobody cares. by bondsbw · · Score: 2

      But that's the point. I don't care about my neighbor's cousin liking my Instagram post.

      {{ding}}

      *Flicks wrist*

      Nope.

      Sure beats digging out my phone just to find the same useless information.

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    18. Re:Nobody cares. by TheRaven64 · · Score: 1

      My laptop is good at being a calculator. It's a two-keystroke combination to bring up something where I can type quick calculations, it has better editing facilities than any stand-alone calculator I've used, and I can copy a simple calculation and stick it into a proper programming language for really complicated things. Most importantly, I'm already using my laptop 99% of the time that I want a calculator, so there's less overhead from using my laptop as one than there is of switching to a separate physical device.

      In contrast, the main use of a watch is convenience. My watch doesn't appear to be made anymore, but this is the closest model. It's a few millimetres thick and so light that I can forget that I'm wearing it and it tells the time accurately enough that I only ever adjust it when I cross time zones. The battery lasts about 4 years (it's about 11 years old now and is on its third battery).

      For a smart watch to be useful, it must provide similar levels of convenience. Everything it does is weighted against reaching into my pocket to get out my phone (or, in my case, wandering to the other side of the room to get my phone, because I don't always have it with me). The same company that made my watch also makes some Android Wear devices, but they're 50% thicker, more than 50% heavier, and have a battery that's rated for 24 hours (I've been that long between being near a convenient place to charge one, and you can bet that it doesn't last 24 hours if you actually use it). And the things where it's more convenient than my phone are quite limited. I could receive SMS there, but replying is hard. I have a friend who finds his convenient for 2 factor authentication, but that's a fairly limited use.

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    19. Re:Nobody cares. by Daralantan · · Score: 1

      Exactly what I was thinking as I read the article. "Apple is winning!" Me: ".... at almost no one?" Sad how we used to think something like this would be so amazing and like some crazy James Bond gadget - but of course it's not a very usable substitute for a good phone.

    20. Re:Nobody cares. by AmiMoJo · · Score: 1

      Why don't you just turn off useless notifications?

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    21. Re:Nobody cares. by Mordaximus · · Score: 1

      ... I like the map navigation app when I remember to use it while walking to a new place.

      I love it for driving; haptic feedback for turns. Rarely need spoken directions or glancing at the map. Great for those spaced out days on the commute home, when I may miss my exit.

      Not that it's the only thing I like about my watch.

    22. Re:Nobody cares. by Dixie_Flatline · · Score: 1

      It's true. Apple's Watch has flopped so hard it outsold the entire Swiss Watch industry last year.

      Or has the Swiss Watch industry flopped, too?

      Stop comparing smartwatch sales to things like laptop or phone sales. They're different classes of device, and have different metrics of success. As of right now, the Apple Watch is an uncontested success. It's making money, and sales are up. Who knows how long it'll be a success, but for right now, there's no reasonable way to say that they've flopped.

    23. Re:Nobody cares. by radarskiy · · Score: 1

      "They aren't going to happen on a very large scale"

      All Swiss watch manufacturers combined sold 17 million electronic units and 7 million purely mechanical units 2017. Apple sold 18 million watches in the same period.

    24. Re:Nobody cares. by arth1 · · Score: 1

      That's like saying your laptop fails at being a calculator. It uses way more energy, it's 100x bigger, it doesn't fit in your pocket, and doesn't have a dedicated keypad.

      It isn't marketed as a calculator.
      (But who needs a calculator? I carry a small slide rule. It works in rain or -40 temperatures, doubles as a ruler, doesn't make a bulge in my jacket pocket, and never runs out of batteries.)

      Smart watches are marketed as a type of wrist watches, but being a wrist watch is a task they don't do well at all.
      Wrist watches replaced pocket watches due to the convenience. You no longer needed to free a hand to take out the watch to check the time. You could just glance at your wrist. This was especially handy during the Great War (WWI), where soldiers who had their hands full could still see what time it was.
      And you could check the time at night, without even sitting up, because you wore it while sleeping too.
      Convenience.
      Today's "smart watches" fail at these tasks, because they run out of steam.

    25. Re:Nobody cares. by CastrTroy · · Score: 1

      Swiss watches are a very small piece of the market. Japan took over once quartz watches become a thing. Most watches that are sold are probably made in Japan or China. The number of watches sold each year is around 1.2 billion. there's a lot more non-smart watches, which for the same year was only 36 million smart watches. This was for 2016, but I don't think things have changed that much in under 2 years.

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    26. Re:Nobody cares. by farble1670 · · Score: 1

      Smart watches are marketed as a type of wrist watches, but being a wrist watch is a task they don't do well at all.

      Are you confused? Are you under the impression they are basically just a watch? I doubt it. I'm not. I guess we are smarter than everyone else though?

      I really don't think anyone purchases say an Apple watch with the expectation that it's mainly just a timepiece. If you go to the Apple page, the first image shows an incoming call on the watch. It goes on to show it being used as a fitness tracker and displaying incoming text messages.

    27. Re:Nobody cares. by fluffernutter · · Score: 1

      That's not all I want, but I use my phone for the other things. The only question here is if I need *everything* on my wrist instead of pulling out my phone and the answer is no. Not for the price and hassle.

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    28. Re:Nobody cares. by fluffernutter · · Score: 1

      My parents are certainly older, and they have never had a need for a smart watch.

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    29. Re:Nobody cares. by arth1 · · Score: 1

      Are you confused? Are you under the impression they are basically just a watch?

      I think you are the confused one. No one is saying it's just a watch, but if it is a watch, it better bloody work well as a watch too.
      And that's where it fails, big time, mainly due to the high power requirements. As it is, it's a wrist device and has no business calling itself a smart "watch".

    30. Re:Nobody cares. by arth1 · · Score: 1

      Smart watches are marketed as a type of wrist watches, but being a wrist watch is a task they don't do well at all.

      My Apple Watch keeps fantastic time, not sure what piece of crap you've been sold.

      You missed the part where I explained why wrist watches took off and became ubiquitous? Like how you can use them no-handed, unlike the pocket watches of yore, and how you could wear them 24/7?

    31. Re:Nobody cares. by farble1670 · · Score: 1

      but if it is a watch

      It's not. Well, it's a watch insomuch as your phone is a watch and tablet is a watch. It's a mobile device similar to your phone, in the form factor and ergo of a watch. Set your expectations accordingly before you buy.

    32. Re:Nobody cares. by DontBeAMoran · · Score: 1

      A smart watch, no.

      But ask their doctors if they'd like to have continuous data on their health (blood pressure, etc) so that he could better diagnose potential problems.

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    33. Re:Nobody cares. by Xenx · · Score: 1

      Smartwatches sold in 2017 are around 75 million... with a projection of around 140 million for 2018. I don't care enough to dig too heavily into the numbers, but still.. 100 million isn't nothing.

    34. Re:Nobody cares. by arth1 · · Score: 1

      I can check the time on my watch using only the hand it is on.

      No, you can't. You either have to move your hand in a sweeping motion, or tap the screen, otherwise it doesn't display the time. I.e. if you have something in your hands, you cannot tell the time.

      Exactly how do you read your watch in the dark?

      Who said anything about in the dark? In bed does not equate to in the dark. Especially early in the morning when you wonder whether you can sleep for a little longer, or if you live up North and it really doesn't get dark at all during summer.
      But even when it is dark, many if not most analogue watches have luminescent hands and markings.

    35. Re:Nobody cares. by fluffernutter · · Score: 1

      Well they won't get that with a smart watch, they aren't accurate enough for clinical use.

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    36. Re:Nobody cares. by radarskiy · · Score: 1

      So one company captured over 1% of the worldwide market selling no units at less than $249.

  2. It's not (just) a marketing problem by Shados · · Score: 3, Insightful

    Usually Google suffer from poor marketing, and this is part of the issue here. Android Wear, however, is a major part -technical- issues.

    I got 2 android wear watches so far. The first was the LG one from launch. It was slow as hell and very buggy at the beginning.

    I eventually got a Moto 360 second gen. It was better, but also buggy. Connectivity issues, weird glitches, random battery drains. The stupid flat tire meant none of the watch faces looked good, too.

    It got worse though: when they updated to Android Wear 2, a lot of options changed or were hard to find. Worse, now when I get a new phone, because of the requirement to reset the watch to pair, it becomes semi-incompatible with the current version of the phone software. That makes pairing incredibly difficult. If you try enough times it eventually works. Or you can just download an APK of an old version on a sketchy website and have it work for sure (wtf?)

    If they could just get the software to work reliably and consistently, they'd have a chance.

  3. Re:As usual by Bing+Tsher+E · · Score: 1

    Is the Smartphone market some sort of Tower Defense game, and you're on the smaller, smarter team that is winning? Because of the brand of smartphone you bought?

    No, I am afraid that the people you call 'fandroids' are just The Rest Of Us not buying something overpriced just because it's Apple branded.

  4. Samsung Gear S3 by denisbergeron · · Score: 1

    better watch design, better User interface, better nfc, better network

    Button do something

    crown do something

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  5. I love my Pebble! by h4ck7h3p14n37 · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Why would you go back to a Casio after having used a Pebble? I backed the Time Steel and it's my favorite watch by far.

    I love the ability to change watch faces, the always on e-paper display and the 5+ day battery life. If I get a text, a Hipchat message or an email, I can just look down at my wrist instead of fishing my phone out of my pocket and then keying in the passphrase. It sounds simple, but is extremely convenient. I can reply by talking into the watch or selecting a canned message. I also run Music Boss so I get album art on my wrist for whatever I'm listening to on Spotify and can change tracks and adjust volume with the watch.

    Now that Fitbit's destroyed Pebble I'm kind of stuck. I won't buy an Android watch because the battery life is unacceptable. I can't buy an iWatch because they only work with iPhones. I won't buy a Fitbit because I want a smartwatch and not a fitness tracker. I really liked that Sony watch with the e-paper wristband, but it's only sold in Japan. The Pebble Time Steel met my needs perfectly and there's nothing else on the market like it.

    1. Re:I love my Pebble! by 93+Escort+Wagon · · Score: 2

      If I get a text, a Hipchat message or an email, I can just look down at my wrist instead of fishing my phone out of my pocket and then keying in the passphrase. It sounds simple, but is extremely convenient. I can reply by talking into the watch or selecting a canned message.

      This is in large part why I like my Apple Watch. Plus NFC payments are extremely convenient with the device. And I like having an alarm clock and calendar on my wrist... something I learned back when I had a Garmin Vivosmart.

      It did cost significantly more than a fitness tracker... but my experience with the Garmin devices, plus my wife’s Fitbit track record, is that you’re lucky if those make it a year before various problems crop up. My Watch is at 19 months and still works great. If it makes it to 3 years, I’ll consider it a successful experiment and get another one.

      Having said all that... if the entire product category vanished tomorrow, it wouldn’t be the end of the world. I like my watch but could easily make do without it.

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    2. Re:I love my Pebble! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      The Garmin Vivoactive or Fenix watches meet your criteria, then. I was a huge Pebble enthusiast for all the reasons you stated, then when Pebble was murdered, I went with Garmin and am very happy with it.

    3. Re:I love my Pebble! by AmiMoJo · · Score: 1

      I've seen a few that are just normal analogue/digital watches but also have a Bluetooth low-energy connection and a tiny LCD for displaying notifications. They vibrate as well.

      Separate batteries for the watch and Bluetooth parts mean that the watch runs for years even if you forget to charge the Bluetooth part. Can't remember what the Bluetooth battery life was like. I think it was a Casio... Actually I think it was a Casio women's watch, but presumably they do men's as well.

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  6. The problem: lack of utility + short battery life by Gravis+Zero · · Score: 2

    Putting a full computer in a phone actually resulted in a more useful device, enough to dismiss the dismal battery life. The real problem here is that putting a computer in a watch doesn't actually increase the utility of the watch but still results in dismal battery life. Fixing either problem will vastly increase people's interest in these computer watches.

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  7. I like my dumb watch. by b0s0z0ku · · Score: 2

    It tells the time and date. I can "charge" it by turning a little knob on the stem.

  8. Re:The problem: lack of utility + short battery li by farble1670 · · Score: 1

    Putting a full computer in a phone actually resulted in a more useful device

    It also resulted in lesser voice quality and ergonomics, and more connection problems. But people were somehow able to get past the fact that their smartPHONEs were more than phones and the functional benefit outweighed the suboptimal phone experience.

    SmartWATCHes aren't watches. They are mobile devices that are nearly as functional as your phone, and surprise, they have battery lives similar to other mobile devices because magic isn't real. They are worn like watches, but functionally they aren't anything like them.

  9. My killer app? 2FA by mveloso · · Score: 1

    I have a 2FA app on my watch so I never have to find my 2FA device, ever.

    1. Re:My killer app? 2FA by ISayWeOnlyToBePolite · · Score: 1

      I have a 2FA app on my watch so I never have to find my 2FA device, ever.

      I want this! What do you have, how does it work, is it fido compatible?

  10. Re:The problem: lack of utility + short battery li by Kurrelgyre · · Score: 1

    They show the current time when you look at them. Sounds a lot like a watch to me.

    The utility is there, it's just not there for everyone yet, which is what we were saying about smart phones 14 years ago while clutching our Palm Treos and Windows Mobiles close. Anyone grumbling about a lack of utility in a smart watch either wouldn't wear a watch regardless, or just never came across one that actually had features they found useful. If I *am* going to wear a watch, it's going to be one that does more than give me the time and date.

  11. Somebody cares, somebody buys by SuperKendall · · Score: 1

    I backed the last Pebble also, and I could see if that was your last experience why youâ(TM)d have that impression.

    But the Apple Watch is simply a million times better than the Pebble, and Iâ(TM)m just talking about my series 0 with the latest OS updates. The new watches are even better. There is a real app story going on there too, itâ(TM)s taken off more slowly than phone apps did, but fir those willing to look at what was, and think about what will be you can see it coming as sure as the next sunrise.

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  12. Same. I'm an early adopter so I got in early by aussersterne · · Score: 2

    with a first-generation Sony smartwatch: https://www.theverge.com/2012/...
    and then a Basis tracker: http://www.bestfitnesstrackerr...
    and then a Pebble: https://www.pebble.com/
    and then a Moto 360: https://www.motorola.com.au/pr...

    My inner gadget freak kept wanting to be wowed, but I kept not being wowed, so I kept trying other models. By the time friends started to get Apple watches, I had already transitioned to wearing traditional analog mechanical watches instead. I played with their Apple watches a bit, but it was the same basic stuff as the ones I'd tried, maybe with more spit and shine.

    So smart watches got me into wristwatches... but not in the end into smart watches.

    I've always been a tech early adopter, so I was expecting to eventually be seduced into the upgrade cycle or wanting the latest-and-greatest, but instead I realized that what I liked most were things like having the time on my wrist, the designs of the faces, customizing the strap/bracelet, and generally wearing them as an apparel item. What I liked least?

    - Having to pair with my phone
    - Having to deal with apps and taps that were cumbersome and ultimately just poorly duplicated what was on my phone
    - Having to charge the watch over and over and over again
    - Starting to envy the idea of having *really* timeless and personal thing on my wrist, rather than tossing out/upgrading in a year or two

    Basically, I hated all the "smart" parts. And on top of that, I got a taste for the sense of the really personal nature of something that you wear on your body all the time, and suddenly didn't like the idea that this thing that was literally a part of me all the time was disposable and just a temporary relationship. For a phone, okay. For something that you touch nonstop, that becomes a part of you, it was a step too far into the bionic man world.

    I have no desire to own a smart watch any longer. But I now have over 30 automatic mechanical wristwatches with lovely dials and lume, domed sapphire crystals, hefty bracelets with sold end links, and classic looks. And I am learning how to service and repair them (I recently serviced my first Slava 2427 movement) and my young son has expressed a lot of interest in them, so someday I can leave them to him and he will still be able to tell the time with them while identifying them with childhood memories and with me—something that would not be the case with a transient smart watch.

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    1. Re:Same. I'm an early adopter so I got in early by edittard · · Score: 1

      I had already transitioned to wearing traditional analog mechanical watches instead.

      Some of us never transitioned out of them, you retro-hipster you.

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  13. Yeah by cloud.pt · · Score: 1

    It needs Apple numbers of hordes wanting to buy what is currently, mostly a useless gadget, considering the percentage of time you wear it vs its uses. The average human being still doesn't need what a smartwatch is right now, at their current price, with their current limitations and commitments. The only disadvantage Android has vs whatever Apple has, is that Apple buyers are simply more open to spending money on something without added value, because it goes well with their life choices.

  14. It's not the name that's the problem by DrXym · · Score: 1
    "Smart" watches are still gimmicks and not practical devices. They run out of charge after a few days of normal use, most don't have always-on displays, they suck in direct sunlight, they're expensive, they're tied to proprietary phone operating systems or appstore platforms, they're fiddly to use, they have very little utility that justifies them in their own right, and they'll be bitrotten and useless in a few years.

    Address some or all of these issues and they'll be better devices for it. Or rebrand the platform and watch as very little happens.

  15. The smart watch is a stepping stone by Custard+Horse · · Score: 1

    For many, the smartphone was the replacement for a watch. Trying to duplicate the smartphone in the watch form factor is a backwards step.

    The smart watch is a placeholder for contact lens heads up display. Google glass moved in the right direction in this respect but that was effectively a failure despite initial interest.

    Once processor and power problems are solved, the contact lens will be the way forward but progress has to be made on less esoteric technology in the interim and the smart watch is a reasonable project, no matter how inferior it is.

  16. Apple watch isn't worth fighting by Sloppy · · Score: 1

    Google had a much better idea with Google Glass than anyone has with these wrist-wearables. Wrist computers are never going to be more than a small niche. They're just not a very good idea.

    Just keep trying to get the on-your-face stuff smaller and cheaper. That's what's going to be big, as soon as someone does it "right" (whatever that's discovered to be).

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  17. Re:The problem: lack of utility + short battery li by jcr · · Score: 1

    It also resulted in lesser voice quality

    What's your next guess?

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  18. I had just never really worn a watch before that, by aussersterne · · Score: 1

    apart from a stint as a kid when I was learning to tell time.

    Smart watches sold me on the idea of "watches" but not on the idea of "smart."

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  19. Re:No Fix until Qualcomm ups their game by UnknowingFool · · Score: 1

    It would take ARM licensee who has an architecture license to do what you propose. Those are only a handful of companies that have one as far as I know: Apple, AppliedMicro, Broadcom, Cavium (now: Marvell), Nvidia, Qualcomm, and Samsung Electronics. Also I doubt Amazon has the personnel or the strategy to do that. Sure they will sell you a smart watch all day but making one is not part of their business.

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  20. Re:The problem: lack of utility + short battery li by farble1670 · · Score: 1

    They show the current time when you look at them. Sounds a lot like a watch to me.

    Do does my phone. So does my desktop computer for that matter. So does my microwave.