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Verizon Will Fix Broadband Networks, Landlines To Resolve Investigation (vice.com)
Joel Hruska reports via ExtremeTech: Verizon has reached an agreement with the Communications Workers of America and the New York State Public Service Commission to begin repairing infrastructure and restoring service across New York State. The agreement requires Verizon to extend broadband service to tens of thousands of New York State households and to begin repairing facilities it has previously neglected. As in Pennsylvania, Verizon has been neglecting its fixed wired infrastructure in its bid to first sabotage copper service, then force customers to adopt alternative solutions. It's also been mired in an ongoing lawsuit with the state of New York over its breach of a 2008 contract requiring it to provide fiber service within New York City.
This new agreement appears to settle these issues, provided it's followed. Under its terms, Verizon will extend fiber to 10,000 to 12,000 households not currently served by it in Long Island and Verizon's "Upstate Reporting Region" (these are Verizon-specific regions, not geographical areas, so "Long Island" may mean more than just the island). It will begin immediately replacing copper lines in certain specific NYC buildings with high failure rates and transitioning them to fiber optic cable, repairing operations within 50 upstate wireless centers with high failure rates, allow plant technicians to report plant failures and maintenance needs more accurately, and begin inspecting and replacing the batteries that provide critical connectivity in the event of a power outage when said batteries are deployed for specific customers (hospitals, police stations, and other emergency facilities). It will also begin removing so-called "double poles." A double pole is when an old telephone pole is stapled (metaphorically speaking) to a newer one. Some examples of a double pole from PA are shown below; Verizon has been hauled into court to force it to do its job in more than one state.
This new agreement appears to settle these issues, provided it's followed. Under its terms, Verizon will extend fiber to 10,000 to 12,000 households not currently served by it in Long Island and Verizon's "Upstate Reporting Region" (these are Verizon-specific regions, not geographical areas, so "Long Island" may mean more than just the island). It will begin immediately replacing copper lines in certain specific NYC buildings with high failure rates and transitioning them to fiber optic cable, repairing operations within 50 upstate wireless centers with high failure rates, allow plant technicians to report plant failures and maintenance needs more accurately, and begin inspecting and replacing the batteries that provide critical connectivity in the event of a power outage when said batteries are deployed for specific customers (hospitals, police stations, and other emergency facilities). It will also begin removing so-called "double poles." A double pole is when an old telephone pole is stapled (metaphorically speaking) to a newer one. Some examples of a double pole from PA are shown below; Verizon has been hauled into court to force it to do its job in more than one state.
It's the last utility that still works in an emergency.
Verizon is a garbage company.
Who needs the Russians or the Chinese to sabotage America's communication infrastructure when we have Verizon doing it for free?
Can't they just Verizon's license?
The union? God forbid that their employees be paid a non-slave wage and be given civilized amounts of time off. There should be more unions for tech workers, not less.
The troubling part is: "As in Pennsylvania, Verizon has been neglecting its fixed wired infrastructure in its bid to first sabotage copper service, then force customers to adopt alternative solutions." In some other countries, the telecoms directly end the landline service and replace it with wireless. No sabotaging in a shady way, like the submission suggests. If this is true, Verizon loses its face with their customers and bleeds money to unmaintained services and suffers opportunity costs just to be shady.
You know it's bad when "Company begrudgingly agrees to hold up it's end of the deal" becomes a "good" headline.
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And this is why all of the people telling us the market will find a solution are utterly full of shit.
The free-market is always going to be filled with players who will do anything to get an advantage. They'll outright lie to you or manipulate the game to their advantage.
The only thing the "free market" optimizes for is greedy assholes.
The market is completely incapable of solving or fixing this issue, because a bunch of selfish companies will never arrive at a solution which works.
The reality is, we don't have competing water, sewage, and electricity. We don't have competing roads, fire hydrants, fire services, or police forces. This shit is infrastructure, and built to serve and benefit everyone.
It's about fucking time we recognized that if telcos want to compete for our business (instead of telling us what we can have as a monopoly) that the cabling which comes to our homes must be common and universal.
Then let's see what they fucking do.
These greedy cocksuckers have already collected huge amounts of money which had been required to be earmarked to expand and maintain this infrastructure. The problem is they kept it for profits and failed to invest in their network so they could move on to the next thing they could oversell and under-deliver on.
That they're trying to let it rot and go away to push us to more modern and profitable stuff is unsurprising. That they're starting to get backed into a corner by states and municipalities is a good sign.
Free market my goddamned fucking ass ... let the fuckers compete starting from the curb, and then we'll begin to see if there can be such a thing as a free market.
Of course, Ajit Pai the great puppet of the telcos will probably hand it masters relief from this, because he's such a paid shill it isn't funny.
Welcome to your oligarchy, America. If you think you have, or ever will have, a free market, you're fucking delusional.
Somehow I want to see killer clowns executing corporate executives after reading this article. That would be awesome.
get the infra built up before he leaves FCC to rejoin VZ
I had Verizon DSL until just recently despite the fact that FIOS is deployed all around me. As soon as I canceled my land line they killed that DSL connection so fast it would make your head spin. I think I was the only DSL user within 100 miles and they were happy to finally disconnect me and release those ancient copper wires and infrastructure.
and tax cuts for the fiber network they were paid to build and never did? Seriously, why the hell do we never call companies to task on this shit? You know, they couldn't get away with it if we'd stop voting people in who let them. Why do we keep doing that!?
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As in Pennsylvania, Verizon has been neglecting its fixed wired infrastructure in its bid to first sabotage copper service, then force customers to adopt alternative solutions.
I had Verizon for a home POTS (copper) landline until a few years ago - ('cause it works through all but an extended city-wide power outage). I started having problems with reliability and the tech said they wouldn't fix it and I'd have to "upgrade" to FiOS. Since I already had TV and Internet service with Cox, I just switched to them for phone too -- addition reason, there was no where to easily/nicely mount the new Verizon gear near the exiting hook-up and the TV/Internet hook-up is on the other side of the house. Also, not enough of a Verizon fan to put all my eggs in their basket.
FYI, if you missed it: You are responsible for paying for the replacement backup battery in your FiOS modem.
It must have been something you assimilated. . . .
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The agreement says there will be about 7000 on Long Island itself. With a population of 7.8 million and assuming 3 per household that means Verizon will get round to at most 1 in 400 households. If that's worth celebrating what has their performance been like up till now? Also, call me cynical but there's no mention of anything to stop them from giving fiber to the richest 1 in 400 households.
It looks like they'll only do it if they get public money:
Ps. editors. Some examples of a double pole from PA are not shown below.
The only fair and true arbiter of fairness of a wage is an open market. Government-backed unions are the opposite of that — they are monopolies. Trusts, which unabashedly seek to maintain and raise the prices on what they are selling.
Instead of glamorizing them, we ought to apply anti-trust laws to them. And, when they commit crimes to further their goals, RICO-laws should apply.
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a wired connection will always be better than a wireless one.
They probably agreed to this because they know that as soon as 5G rolls out, all the copper is nothing but dead metal anyway. And why the fuck was the union involved? These people are simply trying to line their pockets with massive overtime. I'd say this is an enormous conflict of interest and should be challenged in a court of law.
Unions get overtime? Surely you jest!
I can see and hear the union complaints now about actually having to do REAL WORK instead of sitting around all day pretending to work.
So I guess it's time for another strike by Verizon's east coast unions, right? It's been about 2 years now.
Let the whining begin ... on both sides of the bargaining table.
and tax cuts for the fiber network they were paid to build and never did? Seriously, why the hell do we never call companies to task on this shit? You know, they couldn't get away with it if we'd stop voting people in who let them. Why do we keep doing that!?
Really? Stop voting them in, huh?
ok, which ones are the ones who keep doing that, and which ones are the "good" guys who would call them on it?
go ahead, take your time, I'll wait.
The fact is, BOTH 'sides' are bought-and-paid-for corporate shills, and our political system is rigged in such a way that the average person can't even hope to compete, unless they happen to win PowerBall or something.
On top of that, all of the tax money given to these parasitical companies is free of any rules or restrictions. The politicians responsible for that made sure there were no caveats, so their corporate overlords can settle back with a fat bank account and absolutely no guilt.