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Bali Plans To Switch Off Internet Services For 24 Hours For New Year 'Quiet Reflection' (theguardian.com)

Internet service providers in Bali will be switching off mobile services this weekend for 24 hours to mark the Indonesian island's annual day of silence. "Nyepi, or New Year according to the ancient Balinese calendar, is a sacred day of reflection on the Hindu-majority island," reports The Guardian. "Even the international airport shuts down." From the report: This year authorities have called on telecommunications companies to unplug -- a request Bali says firms have promised to honor. "It was agreed that internet on mobile phones will be cut. All operators have agreed," Nyoman Sujaya, from the Bali communications ministry, told tirto.id. The plan, based on an appeal put forward by Balinese civil and religious groups, was announced following a meeting at the ministry in Jakarta. This is the first time internet services will be shut down in Bali for Nyepi, after the same request was denied last year. However, wifi connection will still be available at hotels and for strategic services such as security, aviation, hospitals and disaster agencies. Phone and SMS services will be operational, but the Indonesian Internet Service Provider Association is reviewing whether wifi at private residences will be temporarily cut.

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  1. A quiet reflection, indeed. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

    "How the fuck do I get out of Bali?", the bored citizen wondered quietly to himself.

    1. Re:A quiet reflection, indeed. by Bert64 · · Score: 2, Insightful

      It takes away people's freedom to choose.. By turning off the networks you are forcing people to do without.
      If people choose to take a day off then that's their choice to make, but taking away that choice and forcing it on people is dictatorial.

      Some of us might need to use the internet for important matters, we might need to work, we might need to be contactable. There are also people with mental disabilities who wouldn't understand why things suddenly stopped working.

      I won't be going to bali if they do things like this. I like the idea that my family can contact me in cases of emergency. If i want some quiet time without internet i'll go visit north korea.

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    2. Re:A quiet reflection, indeed. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Well there's your freedom to choose, right there. You don't have to go to Bali. And it's not dictatorial if most of the inhabitants want it which, since this is a Hindu thing and most of the people on the island are Hindu, they probably do. The fact that you, as an outsider, find it mildly inconvenient, is neither here nor there and certainly doesn't make it dictatorial. #fwp

    3. Re:A quiet reflection, indeed. by K.+S.+Kyosuke · · Score: 1

      Well there's your freedom to choose, right there. You don't have to go to Bali.

      Someone should tell North Koreans that solving their problems is very easy, just don't get born in North Korea. Oh, wait...

      And it's not dictatorial if most of the inhabitants want it which, since this is a Hindu thing and most of the people on the island are Hindu, they probably do.

      I think most sensible people can agree that *all* theocracies are fucked up, not just "mildly inconvenient".

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    4. Re:A quiet reflection, indeed. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0, Insightful

      Slashdot admins: Permanently ban these trolls, please. Notice that they sometimes post "pro Trump" far right wing drivel and sometimes equally stupid "anti Trump" far left wing drivel like the above one.

      Or give mods a way to moderate them to -666 (= no reply possible)

    5. Re:A quiet reflection, indeed. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      What about the non-Hindus living there that don't want to go without internet?

      This is similar to a majority Christian country forcing everyone to go to church on Sunday.

    6. Re:A quiet reflection, indeed. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      This is similar to a majority Christian country forcing everyone to go to church on Sunday.

      No, it is similar to a Christian country forcing everyone to do without shops on Sunday [1]. You are not forced to do something, you are prevented from doing something, still leaving you plenty of other ways to fill your time. And if you cannot think of anything to do if Internet does not work, I think you'e a pretty sad tomato.

      [1] Which is indeed the case in many Christian countries. Even as an atheist I approve of this resting day, although I am not particularly attached to Sunday to be that day.

    7. Re:A quiet reflection, indeed. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Some of us might need to use the internet for important matters

      That's why they have to do it officially. Because you won't do it of your own accord.

      I grew up at a time when absolutely everything was closed on Sunday. Even drugstores. It could be boring, yes. But there's a reason that religions institutionalize such things: It requires you to stop and be with yourself. It's what might be called a serious reflection aid. Without taking such breaks we tend to never step back and take stock, always being absorbed in an activity and never developing a meta-paradigmatic awareness.

      But what if there's an emergency, you ask. Sure, that could happen. But somehow we survived.

    8. Re:A quiet reflection, indeed. by 110010001000 · · Score: 1

      What country closes all their shops on Sundays? I mean ALL (100%). That matches what Bali is doing: they are switching it off 100%.

    9. Re: A quiet reflection, indeed. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Car dealerships? 100% closed. Liquor stores? 100% closed. Shops open before noon? Basically zero. Shops open after 6pm? Basically zero. Blue laws are pervasive and inconvenient.

    10. Re:A quiet reflection, indeed. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      We have to look at this from a reasonable position. It's less free as Bert64 says. But, is it really so bad? It sounds pretty awesome to me. And, as for this absurd idea that he's boycotting Bali, they're giving him advanced notice. It's not like they're going to have a surprise reflection period. If he's suggesting that because they had a planned, routine cutting of the networks that they'll be more likely to do so without advanced notice (for example to silence political opponents), that's dubious. Certainly, Indonesia would be more likely to do something like that than the USA. You don't need this event to tell you that; just common sense. I think Bert64 needs to limit his travel to a lot less places than just everywhere but Bali if an absolute guarantee of emergency contact is that vital to him.

    11. Re:A quiet reflection, indeed. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Right in the fucking summary:
      "wifi connection will still be available at [b]hotels[/b] and for strategic services such as security, aviation, hospitals and disaster agencies".

      If you can't live without internet for 24 hours, go to a hotel.
      But I'd suggest that if you can't live without internet for 24 hours, you should probably do the world a favour and just remove yourself from the gene pool.

    12. Re:A quiet reflection, indeed. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      "What day should I plan my crime spree in Bali when the whole country will have blinders on?"

    13. Re:A quiet reflection, indeed. by butchersong · · Score: 1

      That basically describes any law or dictate in any society. You could even make the same argument about something as innocuous as a city parade which inconveniences you by shutting down streets.

  2. So when their Internet comes back up... by Digital+Avatar · · Score: 4, Funny

    ...we should all don our costumes and pretend they've returned to The Planet of the Apes.

  3. This is awesome! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    We should do this in the US!

    1. Re:This is awesome! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      You are what is wrong with america.

      See virtue signal. demand everyone else do it too.

    2. Re: This is awesome! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Do you feel a little weird using that phrase while loudly broadcasting that you are so virtuous that you can't abide this guy's opinion?

    3. Re: This is awesome! by CosmeticLobotamy · · Score: 1

      A week without online shopping would probably save tens of thousands of small businesses for a year. Especially if that week was the one after Thanksgiving.

    4. Re: This is awesome! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      And it would lower the number of people employed to boot! Sounds wonderful!

    5. Re: This is awesome! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      That is the opposite of how things work.

  4. So... If something happens by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    like say, a terror attack, no one will know until the day after, because there wouldn't be internet access to report it.

    1. Re:So... If something happens by mschwanke97402 · · Score: 2, Insightful

      like say, a terror attack, no one will know until the day after, because there wouldn't be internet access to report it.

      So, you belive the “news” you read on Facebook then?

    2. Re:So... If something happens by Bing+Tsher+E · · Score: 2

      Why is it extremely important for people not directly affected to immediately know when there has been a terror attack?

    3. Re:So... If something happens by PopeRatzo · · Score: 3, Insightful

      like say, a terror attack, no one will know until the day after, because there wouldn't be internet access to report it.

      Yes, in the days before the Internet, no one was able to find out what was happening in the world. People in the United States didn't know there had been a second World War until 1971, and they only found out through word of mouth.

      I remember the early 1980s when the results of the Super Bowl had to be spread by town criers.

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    4. Re:So... If something happens by angel'o'sphere · · Score: 1

      Bali actually had a few terror attacks 15 - 20 years ago.
      https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/...

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    5. Re:So... If something happens by Bert64 · · Score: 1

      What if your family or friends were directly affected by the attack?
      If i went away somewhere i'd still want to remain informed of important events occurring elsewhere.

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    6. Re:So... If something happens by Opportunist · · Score: 1

      The main difference would be that you worry without anything you can do a day later.

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    7. Re:So... If something happens by Bert64 · · Score: 1

      There's plenty you can do depending on the situation...
      If a bomb explodes in a location where your friends and family are, you can find out if they were affected or not.
      If someone is critically injured or sick you may get a last chance to speak to them before they die.

      Being arbitrarily disconnected from the world for no real reason is a bad thing.

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    8. Re:So... If something happens by Opportunist · · Score: 1

      Neither action would keep the person alive. I fail to see the benefit.

      My dad is old. And it's likely that at some point in the near future he will die. I sure hope it's still some decades out, but statistics is not on my side. I honestly don't know whether I would want to talk with him and KNOW it's going to be the last time. What do you say to someone you know will die? Instead, I try to make every time we talk pleasant enough that I could rest easily if in retrospect I had to realize that this was the last thing I said to my old dad.

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    9. Re:So... If something happens by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I believe the points was: you don't need Facebook, or the internet, to report or be informed about terror attacks. It may come as a surprise that there were terror attacks (in the western world actually more than recent years) before ubiquitous internet. People used phones to report emergencies, which are still operating. And would get informed about news via radio, tv or even newspapers.

    10. Re:So... If something happens by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Luckily, the phones are still working - as is internet in hospitals, so voila, your fears of your imagined loved ones in Bali dying without a chance to waste their last vital breaths saying good bye to you should be mitigated.

    11. Re:So... If something happens by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Yes, let us make Fox News the official and only news source allowed.

    12. Re:So... If something happens by thegarbz · · Score: 1

      like say, a terror attack, no one will know until the day after

      And? If there is a terror attack I either won't care if I hear about it in the news later that night, or I would want it to come through so frigging urgently that the internet is well and truly the wrong avenue for distributing that information.

  5. How do you cut residential wifi? by spiritplumber · · Score: 1, Funny

    are they going to send people to tell residents to unplug their routers?

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    1. Re:How do you cut residential wifi? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Uhh... I think they'll do it at the ISP.

      Your packets will be dropped silently.

    2. Re:How do you cut residential wifi? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Most likely they are talking about cutting residential internet period. You can tell this was written by someone clueless about tech. The kind that think wifi is the only way you get internet.

      I'm guessing hotels are going to be booked solid during this holiday, or at least lots of people crowding the lobbies.

      You can bet none of the politicians or anyone with any kind of political pull will have their internet at home or on mobile cut.

      Even if it was ISPs going into their provided modems and killing the wifi for the time period, It's not going to stop someone from putting their own router or AP on the ethernet port and having their own uncontrolled wifi.

    3. Re:How do you cut residential wifi? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Residential wifi can stay, if there is no backbone it won't do much in the actual state of the internet.

    4. Re:How do you cut residential wifi? by AmiMoJo · · Score: 1

      They will ask the ISP to disable their whole internet service. Remember that non-tech people often confuse only vaguely related things.

      Wifi / internet
      Hard drive / computer
      USB / flash drive
      Web Search / Bing

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    5. Re:How do you cut residential wifi? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      > Web Search / Bing

      One of these is not like the others.

    6. Re:How do you cut residential wifi? by KHKw2k · · Score: 1

      they're "vaguely related" in the sense that Bing sorta looks like a web search, at least cosmetically.

  6. VoIP by nateman1352 · · Score: 4, Insightful

    So what happens when someone who is using VoIP telephone service attempts to contact emergency medical, fire, or police services? Your SOL that day I guess? This is the problem with trying to legislate morality.

    1. Re:VoIP by OrangeTide · · Score: 5, Funny

      You'll be in quiet reflection FOREVER.

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    2. Re: VoIP by phantomfive · · Score: 1

      God will save them. Or natural selection will intervene, anyway. (They're the same thing right?)

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    3. Re:VoIP by PixetaledPikachu · · Score: 2

      So what happens when someone who is using VoIP telephone service attempts to contact emergency medical, fire, or police services? Your SOL that day I guess? This is the problem with trying to legislate morality.

      During nyepi, residents are asked to stay at home and not to go out, and most Indonesian home have PSTN line

    4. Re:VoIP by angel'o'sphere · · Score: 1

      VOIP will still work, what is your problem?
      Do you think they pull of the power from all internet infrastructure?

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    5. Re:VoIP by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      if you use a voip app through the internet on your mobile phone to call emergency services, instead of using, i dunno.. the fucking phone that's built into the device and is its primary function.... shouldn't you deserve to die?

    6. Re: VoIP by angel'o'sphere · · Score: 1

      Well, they are Hindi. They have many gods!

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    7. Re: VoIP by rtb61 · · Score: 1

      It's a cultural choice, as long as the people agree meh. Perhaps not the whole internet, perhaps require that all social media platforms shut down for regular periods at regular times, a chill out time. Perhaps one weekend at the start/end of season. So say, at the end of winter and the beginning of spring, they shut down on the nearest Friday evening and restart on the following Monday morning, they can do the updates and stuff at that time and everyone else can chill out for a bit, kind of crack the addiction. Sort of either volunteer or be regulated. Not the whole internet of course, just social media or should we call it anti-social media, depends on the platform and culture I suppose.

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    8. Re:VoIP by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      That is why they should be doing this. If you can't think of a way to communicate if your internet is down then this is aimed straight at you.

    9. Re:VoIP by countach · · Score: 1

      That's one of the reasons this is grossly irresponsible.

    10. Re: VoIP by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Except, it's NOT a choice, is it? That's part of the problem. If this were a culture VOLUNTARILY unplugging on an individual basis, fantastic. But that's not what's going on here is it? If it were TRULY a "choice", they wouldn't need to disable the connections, would they?

      Captcha: infringe

    11. Re:VoIP by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Consumer internet VoIP isn't a critical service and in most countries, isn't treated the same way as the PSTN. If you need guaranteed access to emergency medical, fire or police services, you get the appropriate service.

    12. Re:VoIP by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      So how will they do it? Use DPI to identify what kind of traffic is what and block everything but VoIP?

    13. Re:VoIP by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Not "forever", forever, but FOREVAH! Mwaha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha
       
      Or in case you needed to practice, check the clip https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JfUM5xHUY4M

    14. Re:VoIP by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Not 'legislate morality'

      but more like *not* separating church and state. Shall we look at some countries in the middle East, as Exhibit A?

    15. Re:VoIP by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      My wife and daughter are both piggybacking on my data plan on my phone - adding them as a regular phone line would be around 5 times more expensive than the $5 a month for sharing the data. VOIP works well for them. That said, even with the regular phone part disabled, you can still place calls to 911. That may not be the case everwhere in the world though.

    16. Re:VoIP by thegarbz · · Score: 1

      VoIP telephone service attempts to contact emergency medical, fire, or police services

      Same thing that happens any other day when the internet is working perfectly. They will die. There's a reason VoIP providers have a disclaimer about this. By the way with nearly 2/3rds of the population having a mobile phone and the vast majority of those users represented in a major city I find it hard to visualise a scenario where someone would not only be stupid enough to, but even would instinctively consider using some internet connection to call for help rather than just whipping out their phone.

    17. Re:VoIP by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Maybe cut off electricity supply and prohibit vehicle use, as well.

    18. Re:VoIP by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      So what happens when someone who is using VoIP telephone service attempts to contact emergency medical, fire, or police services? Your SOL that day I guess?

      You've never been to Bali have you?

      This is the problem with trying to legislate morality.

      This is the problem with having a pea sized brain...

  7. Great time for a crime spree by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    How dumb is this? any alarm that use this will be useless, Owners will be un contactable... law enforcement will be un contactable.
    Just an open invitation for criminals!

    1. Re: Great time for a crime spree by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Wonder how many people on the government's Undesirable List will mysteriously vanish that day...

  8. The blackout of 2003 was a good thing by computerchimp · · Score: 2

    The blackout of 2003 was good for people socializing. This will be too.

    1. Re: The blackout of 2003 was a good thing by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      the whole idea is to NOT socialize.

      besides.. they're just cutting it from some lines.

      its stupid due to that.

    2. Re: The blackout of 2003 was a good thing by computerchimp · · Score: 1

      Of course socializing in one of the purposes.
      Are all those smartphone users going to just stop moving once the texts and calls stop?
      No. They are going to talk to others and in the quiet moments in between when they are by themselves reflect on something.

  9. I was surprised at first but then... by cyberzephyr · · Score: 1

    I was surprised at first but then i read the article. I thought it was going to be expensive until a saw that it won't effect folks who are living in hotels and such. So with that said, it's not that important to me. I'm not being crass, just thoughtful.

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    1. Re:I was surprised at first but then... by 93+Escort+Wagon · · Score: 4, Funny

      I predict there will be lots of Bali teenagers in quiet reflection in the immediate vicinity of these hotels.

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    2. Re:I was surprised at first but then... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      The bored Bali teenagers are more likely going to be "quietly reflecting", or maybe not so quietly, in the back seat of a car.

    3. Re:I was surprised at first but then... by mjwx · · Score: 1

      I predict there will be lots of Bali teenagers in quiet reflection in the immediate vicinity of these hotels.

      It always surprises me that many Americans think every country is like theirs.

      Most teenagers in Bali wont have high end phones because most Balinese make less than US$200 per month... and that's double what many other Indonesian provinces make so their parents cant afford to buy them phones and their job wont pay enough either. The overwhelming majority of Balinese teens will be out drinking, partying, having sex (and getting pregnant) like teenagers used to do.

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    4. Re:I was surprised at first but then... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      Well, there is a "Kissing Ritual" involved in this celebration, let the kids celebrate!
      https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Omed-omedan

  10. A good idea by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Insightful

    This is probably a good idea for many places.

    People are getting too dependent and addicted and need to step back and reflect.

    If we cannot switch off our digital addiction for several days than we have a problem.

    1. Re:A good idea by Opportunist · · Score: 4, Insightful

      Then switch off yours. Why the urge to dictate what others can do?

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    2. Re:A good idea by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Why the urge to dictate what others can do?

      It is for your own good.

    3. Re:A good idea by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Then switch off yours. Why the urge to dictate what others can do?

      Because they can. And even though this goes against every grain of your personal ideology, it still manages to work. How does that make you feel?

    4. Re:A good idea by Opportunist · · Score: 1

      Makes me feel like I'd be wrong in this country.

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  11. Shirely you mean Mali by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Because Bali is sucking my DAMN BALLS!

  12. Internet kill switch by OrangeTide · · Score: 1

    This is what would happen if we had an internet kill switch in the US.
    Except substitute "quiet reflection" with "pray to Jesus in the way my particular denomination does".

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    1. Re:Internet kill switch by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      This is what would happen if we had an internet kill switch in the US. Except substitute "quiet reflection" with "pray to Jesus in the way my particular denomination does".

      Who is this Jesus of which you 'speak' and what part of I'm {Agnostic,Jewish,Muslim,Hindu,Buddhist,Shinto,Zoroastrian,Pastafarian,etc.} don't you get?

      Pop quiz: In what document can we find the following: "Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion..."

      Don't know? Back to fifth grade civics for you.

    2. Re:Internet kill switch by OrangeTide · · Score: 4, Insightful

      Don't know? Back to fifth grade civics for you.

      Ahh I remember fifth grade, that was when my public middle school set up a few minutes of prayer every morning lead by the vice vice principals.

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    3. Re:Internet kill switch by Darkling-MHCN · · Score: 1

      The internet kill switch for the US is actually in China.

    4. Re:Internet kill switch by MMC+Monster · · Score: 1

      Ahh I remember fifth grade, that was when my public middle school set up a few minutes of prayer every morning lead by the vice vice principals.

      You had a vice principal of vice? Where did you go to school, Vegas?

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    5. Re: Internet kill switch by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Give it a break you loon. There is zero chance that would happen. We get it, you have a problem with Christians.

  13. Only the plebes by Snotnose · · Score: 2

    Note how they point out that emergency services personnel, security, hospitals, etc will still have internet? It's only the plebes, lets hope it's not the beginning.

    1. Re:Only the plebes by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Note how they point out that emergency services personnel, security, hospitals, etc will still have internet? It's only the plebes, lets hope it's not the beginning.

      What the heck? They are keeping emergency services, which overwhelmingly benefit 'the plebes', on. If they were keeping internet on for high level politicians or people who paid a large fee, then you might have a point.

  14. Religion by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    They should require *evidence* of their gods before they shut down an entire countries infrastructure in order to appease them.

    This really shows how far humans have to go.

  15. not enough! by supernova87a · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Why don't they just cut all electricity, plumbing, and all other services so people are sure to reflect on the simple joy of life?

    1. Re:not enough! by angel'o'sphere · · Score: 3, Funny

      They are afraid of the spike in births 9 month later.

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    2. Re:not enough! by ChunderDownunder · · Score: 1

      You joke but Indonesia has had its fair share of natural disasters, being a collection of islands.

      Bali itself currently faces imminent danger thanks to an active volcano, Mt Agung.

    3. Re:not enough! by stooo · · Score: 1

      >>Bali itself currently faces imminent danger thanks to an active volcano, Mt Agung.
      And also loss of Internet connectivity:)

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    4. Re:not enough! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Why don't they just cut all electricity, plumbing, and all other services so people are sure to reflect on the simple joy of life?

      This happens regularly anyway, and people are still happier than in the US. There's a lesson in there somewhere...

  16. Isn't Bali busy purging minorities? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    This sounds like a good way to give them a full day to do it under the guise of a holiday.

    Expect to see more purges from other nation-states happening under this method in the future.

    1. Re: Isn't Bali busy purging minorities? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      last time it wasnt that bad.

      which is the minority in bali anyways? buddhists or muslims?

      its not sri lanka....

  17. Gotta appease the small-brained... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0, Interesting

    You have to appease the small-minded people who ask for things like this. Having no idea that other people without their knowledge perhaps set up life critical services, these fools block the internet.

    Of course anyone else trying to get these people to honor other events like Satans birthday likely fail. It's almost as if the small brain people are really our masters. They really do have the best of both worlds... anyone dumber than them needs help, anyone smarter than them needs to slow down and be less dangerous. Anything that scares them will be banned, anything they don't understand will be taken away, and they will never allow someone more skilled or efficient to exist around them without constant ridicule. They demand the right to exist, demand the tax money from the smarter people, demand to be in the way, and demand the right to ban anything they disagree with.

    I'm glad an event like this happens, so I can show the people in my country what would happen if we let the small brain people over here take control. They demand shit like this and actually think they're in the right to enforce it upon others.

  18. Tyranny of the majority by Alwin+Henseler · · Score: 5, Insightful

    There. Plain and simple. While Nyepi:

    Observed from 6 a.m. until 6 a.m. the next morning, Nyepi is a day reserved for self-reflection, and as such, anything that might interfere with that purpose is restricted. The main restrictions are no lighting fires (and lights must be kept low); no working; no entertainment or pleasure; no traveling; and, for some, no talking or eating at all. The effect of these prohibitions is that Bali's usually bustling streets and roads are empty, there is little or no noise from TVs and radios, and few signs of activity are seen even inside homes.

    sounds good (we could have more of that, people tend to be noisy & stir things up wherever they go), the line following above quote already spoils it:

    The only people to be seen outdoors are the Pecalang, traditional security men who patrol the streets to ensure the prohibitions are being followed.

    To avoid confusion: I have no problem with religion in general. At all. But too much trouble in this world starts when [population group A] wants to enforce their world views on [population group B]. Above example seems pretty harmless, but the principle still holds. For that reason I hate it whenever this happens. Practical reasons: fine. When an issue must be decided one way or the other, and a super-majority picks the 'least evil' option with minimized harm to others: okay. But forcing some measure upon others for NO GOOD REASON other than tradition / culture / religion / state repression or whatever: not okay.

    While looking harmless enough in this case, it includes denying a basic utility service to (also according to WP) around 16.5% of non-Hindus in Bali. Or in the order of ~800k people. Who may or may not choose to participate in the event. But in case not, see their freedom to fill in their day as desired, trampled upon by the majority.

    If you want peace & quiet, go some place where there is peace & quiet, and do nothing to disturb that. If you want that as a group, find a place big enough for that group. If you want that for the rest of your live, go live in a place with no / few people around. Otherwise: stop messing with OTHER PEOPLE's lives. They are not your life, and thus (unless your rights are inflicted upon) not your business to mess with.

    1. Re:Tyranny of the majority by alok_naik · · Score: 1

      Ummm... why doesn't this work with your logic? If you want internet access during this time, go some place where there is no restriction on ISPs, and do nothing to disturb that. If you want that as a group, find a place big enough for that group.

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    2. Re:Tyranny of the majority by djinn6 · · Score: 1

      How is it hard to understand? My internet access does not disturb you, so you should not be allowed to restrict my access. Likewise, your quiet reflection does not disturb me, therefore I cannot prevent you from quietly reflecting. Everyone gets to do what they want instead of trying to force the other side to do something the other side hates. This is how people end up killing each other for it.

      You might have a point if people want to throw loud parties, but even then, being the majority does not mean you own all of the land. If you want to force quietness, then you can do so in some areas, but you also need to provide areas where those who want to party can do so. They are citizens as well and have a right to live the way they want.

    3. Re: Tyranny of the majority by houghi · · Score: 1

      Ate you living in Bali? No? Then stop deciding what they should do. It is their life, not yours.

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    4. Re:Tyranny of the majority by K.+S.+Kyosuke · · Score: 1

      So some Balinese are going to travel outside Bali because most Balinese are weird?

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    5. Re:Tyranny of the majority by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      p> If you want peace & quiet, go some place where there is peace & quiet, and do nothing to disturb that.

      Goddamn SJWs.
      Good luck finding such a place in Bali.

      it includes denying a basic utility service to

      We're not talking about water, heat or food here. Just internet access.

      Minorities, and sometimes majorities, "rights" get trampled upon every day, in every country.
      Its a built-in feature of society.
      Just think of that that minority that wants to drive faster than the majority restricts speed limits to. And if you want to argue that speed limits on roads are for the greater good ... well I'm pretty sure the mental health board just about anywhere would agree a day of inward reflection is good for the nation as a whole.

    6. Re: Tyranny of the majority by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      You think Bali is somehow the only place on Earth where every single individual is happy with arbitrary restrictions to their freedom because other people do not want to use a service at a certain time?

    7. Re:Tyranny of the majority by AmiMoJo · · Score: 1

      no lighting fires (and lights must be kept low); no working; no entertainment or pleasure; no traveling; and, for some, no talking or eating at all

      I bet maternity wards are busy in September.

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    8. Re:Tyranny of the majority by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      This might very well be the reason the government is doing this, to force an increase in the birth rate, with religion and 'quiet reflection' just the trojan horse.

    9. Re:Tyranny of the majority by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      They can travel to other places, sure, or book a room in an international hotel that provides wifi for guests.

      Forget tyranny and indulge in a little creativity, or RTFA, FFS. (to the grandparent post, not kyosuke)

    10. Re:Tyranny of the majority by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I thought you alt-righters were all about freedom?

      Oh right, freedom to do exactly what you want. Anyone else is a SJW.

    11. Re:Tyranny of the majority by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Yeah it sure is awful that the Balinese government refuses to let the non-Hindu population leave...

    12. Re: Tyranny of the majority by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Safety: A way to force ones fears upon others, specifically assuming no other human exists with superior capabilities.

  19. Theocracy by rsilvergun · · Score: 3, Interesting

    I'm sure the government asked a business to shut down service and everybody there was just like "Hey, that's a great idea".

    Seriously, does anyone else find this disturbing as hell? If you want to shut off your internet for a day go right ahead. Unplug your router. But having the government force the issue is frightening. Especially with the religious overtones. It doesn't help that I've been reading stories of Hindi nationalists out of India, but to be fair I've got no idea if that sort of nationalism exists in Indonesia.

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    1. Re:Theocracy by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      Welcome to the world outside North America and a few countries in western Europe. You have it so good you actively seek out and invent hardships to fight. Go rsilversocialjustice!

    2. Re:Theocracy by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      It's the will of the majority. You know, democracy.

      Or is democracy only good when the people choose things you agree with? I haven't seen any comments from Balinese people (Hindu or non-Hindu) complaining about the day, only whingeing from westerners with an overdeveloped sense of entitlement.

    3. Re:Theocracy by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      "You have it so good you actively seek out and invent hardships to fight."

      u jelly? :)

    4. Re:Theocracy by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Democracy is only good when it limits the majority from infringing on the personal rights and freedoms of the minority.

      Doubly so as home internet is an especially personal choice, so there isn't even a shadow of a reason to force one's choice on others. If you want to not use the internet for a day, well, don't. This contrasts with something more reasonable, with not issuing permits for activities like concerts, etc. during a day of silence.

    5. Re:Theocracy by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      When are government leaders supposed to work illegal atrocities if we never shut down communications for a while? C'mon, won't someone think of the autocrats!

    6. Re:Theocracy by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I'm sure the government asked a business to shut down service and everybody there was just like "Hey, that's a great idea".

      Seriously, does anyone else find this disturbing as hell? If you want to shut off your internet for a day go right ahead. Unplug your router. But having the government force the issue is frightening.

      Only because you've been brainwashed to think your country is somehow great because of the so-called freedoms that allow powerful people to oppress you. Seriously, what has freedom done for you? Highest incarceration rates, highest murder rates, highest inequality, highest mortality rates in the western world...

      The internet is a poison that needs to be reigned in a little.I think an enforced day or even a week off the internet would be beneficial to society.

  20. Oops by Alwin+Henseler · · Score: 1

    Sorry messed up the numbers a bit there. Might be closer to ~700k non-Hindus in Bali...

  21. Somewhere, some day...Bali Hi by Provocateur · · Score: 1

    There is an offline paradise
     
    Happy New Day of silence )

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  22. It could be worse by PPH · · Score: 1

    They could have been Jewish.

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  23. Definition of slashdot clickbait by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Foreign country does something that makes sense to them but guaranteed to rile slashdot crowd, get out the popcorn!

    1. Re:Definition of slashdot clickbait by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      No, foreign country attempts to enforce observance of religious ritual on entire population.

      I respect their right to choose not to use the internet for 24 hours for religious reasons. But forcing it on the irreligious is a bit shitty to say the least.

    2. Re:Definition of slashdot clickbait by shortscruffydave · · Score: 1

      No, foreign country attempts to enforce observance of religious ritual on entire population.

      I respect their right to choose not to use the internet for 24 hours for religious reasons. But forcing it on the irreligious is a bit shitty to say the least.

      There are still parts of northern Scotland, especially out on the islands, where you can't get a drink on a Sunday as all pubs are closed on The Day Of Rest

    3. Re: Definition of slashdot clickbait by reanjr · · Score: 1

      Almost all Western demcracies have similarly Christian laws imposed on the secular populace. United States is only one of the more egregious examples, being founded on secularism and never having a divine king in its history; most European countries were at least actually founded on Christian values.

    4. Re:Definition of slashdot clickbait by butchersong · · Score: 1

      You can't separate religion and culture.

  24. Time for a LAN party... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    ...so they can reflect on the good ol' days of when you had to actually meet up to socialize.

  25. Amazing coincidence by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    That's the same place the President's phone was made!

  26. Will piss off the tourists by hoofie · · Score: 3, Insightful

    From my Oz city alone [Perth] there are 3-4 flights just today to Bali, full of Ozzies looking to party and get hammered in Bali. [It is only a 4 hour flight].

    They will not be happy when they find out they cannot update Facebook, Instagram etc etc with pictures of them drinking bucket-size cocktails and in general being dickheads.

    1. Re:Will piss off the tourists by HalAtWork · · Score: 1

      You take a flight and go to party and socialize and have your phone in your nose?

      Still, nothing wrong with snapping pics and taking videos, and then uploading later when you're sober. People probably don't need a live feed, plus it will probably save you some embarrassment!

    2. Re:Will piss off the tourists by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      From the fucking summary - you don't even have to RTFA:
      "wifi connection will still be available at [b]hotels[/b] and for strategic services such as security, aviation, hospitals and disaster agencies"
      All the dickhead yobs from Oz and seppos on the island can still get fucking blathered an post about it from their hotels.

      captcha: NOBILITY. can't make this shit up

  27. Bali? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Is this the same Bali whose women used to run about with bare titties flopping in the wind? Because I'm all for going back to those old timey glory days, as well.

  28. Obviously by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Life did not exist before the internet and mobile phones.

    And Jobs said: "Let there be light..."

    And Tim Berners-Lee said: "Now there is light"

    Fuck you people are idiots.

    1. Re:Obviously by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Well posted, comrade.

  29. Backup by stooo · · Score: 1

    >> So what happens when someone who is using VoIP telephone service attempts to contact emergency medical, fire, or police services?
    It happens the same than when someone has a hard disk failure : he learns the importance of backups.
    It happens that this person then realizes that VOIP is not a bullet proof service that should be relied on for emergency, and next time this person and a few around will be better prepared.

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  30. One hour to install monitoring equipment? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    One hour to maybe install monitoring equipment. That is what I am thinking.

  31. Flag day! by enriquevagu · · Score: 1

    They need to switch them on again on IPv6 only! No other country will ever have such opportunity of a flag day.

  32. Why force on others by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Why force on others who do not want to participate? If you don't want internet, you can always turn off for yourself.

    1. Re:Why force on others by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Because as always, religious people are fucking pants on head insane. Not insane as in "believing in that a single/a group of ghosts that live in space/within us/on top of a mountain controls the world and therefore for some irrational reason deserves worship", because as crazy as that sounds, it may actually be true. No, their insanity is in that no matter what madness they cook up in the name of their imaginary friends, THEY ALWAYS THINK THAT THEY ARE RIGHT. They just don't have that little voice inside their head that say: "no, wait, hold on, maybe other people don't share my delusions".

    2. Re: Why force on others by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      It's because they think their religion is a fact rather than us freethinkers who see it obviously as an opinion.

      To them, you are literally suggesting that 1 + 1 could equal 7. Small brains at work.

  33. Democracy = Tyranny of the majority by Moskit · · Score: 1

    That is exactly what democracy is - "rule of the majority".

    If you want to avoid it, you should probably move to a non-democratic country, at the risk of succumbing to a tyranny of a much smaller group.

  34. The Best Reason To Have A Faith by Maritz · · Score: 1

    Is to go forcing it on others, is it not?

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  35. In America... by transporter_ii · · Score: 1

    I thought Centurylink was just crappy DSL. Nope. Turns out they are tranquility Buddhist and just want me to have some quiet reflection time. How thoughtful of them.

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  36. Good idea. Much appreciated! by Qbertino · · Score: 1

    ... That way I can finally catch up on my Fidonet Echoes.

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  37. Yep by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    That right there is one of the bigger problems with religion, for some reason religotards always feel the need to impose their idiocy on everyone else.

  38. This seems backward by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    If you force people to do something instead of them choosing to do so on their own, isn't that cheapening the experience?

    I would think this might also make people angry about being given no choice by the religious fanatics rather than cause people to say, "Oh, this is wonderful the way you've forced me to comply with your way of worshiping."

  39. A wider issue by inking · · Score: 1

    If you have ever lived in Germany, you would be very familiar with this problem as there is a day when you are explicitly not allowed to dance in public because of some Bismark era Christian-based legislation. People kind of know about this and some do think that it's a little weird. What people do not think is weird is that they are not allowed to work on Sundays, which is every single bit a religious law as the dancing one. Neither is getting repealed any time soon though, as the seems to be this general belief among the populace that repealing the latter would somehow lead to worker exploitation and repealing the former would reduce the number of days off in any given year. It's very inconvenient.

  40. I have no problem with good Christians by OrangeTide · · Score: 1

    I have a problem with elected representatives that are full shit.

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  41. That's ridiculous by slashmydots · · Score: 1

    How are people supposed to quietly reflect without cat memes? They contain more wisdom than some entire religions.

  42. Bali is more complex by aberglas · · Score: 1

    Balinese takes its religion very seriously, and it is under serious threat in the modern world. The quiet time is just part of that, they put a lot of effort into festivals.

    They are also under cultrual attack from large numbers of Javanese immigrants, and this is a way to assert their Balinese culture.

    After, Nyepi they then have a wild party, with the Ogoh-Ogoh -- have a look at
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/...

    Bali is still a magic place, despite the thousands of yobbo Australian tourists. Let's hope it remains that way.

  43. Uh... by XSportSeeker · · Score: 1

    Making it a 'day of quiet reflection' instead of '2 minutes of hate' doesn't make it any less dystopic.