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'Why YouTube's New Plan to Debunk Conspiracy Videos Won't Work' (vortex.com)
Slashdot reader Lauren Weinstein believes YouTube's plan to combat conspiracy videos with "information cues" is "likely doomed to be almost entirely ineffective."
The kind of viewers who are going to believe these kinds of false conspiracy videos are almost certainly going to say that the associated Wikipedia articles are wrong, that they're planted lies... Not helping matters at all is that Wikipedia's reputation for accuracy -- never all that good -- has been plunging in recent years, sometimes resulting in embarrassing Knowledge Panel errors for Google in search results...
The key to avoiding the contamination...is to minimize their visibility in the YouTube/Google ecosystem in the first place... Not only should they be prevented from ever getting into the trending lists, they should be deranked, demonetized, and excised from the YouTube recommended video system. They should be immediately removed from YouTube entirely if they contain specific attacks against individuals or other violations of the YouTube Terms of Service and/or Community Guidelines. These actions must be taken as rapidly as possible with appropriate due diligence, before these videos are able to do even more damage to innocent parties.
The key to avoiding the contamination...is to minimize their visibility in the YouTube/Google ecosystem in the first place... Not only should they be prevented from ever getting into the trending lists, they should be deranked, demonetized, and excised from the YouTube recommended video system. They should be immediately removed from YouTube entirely if they contain specific attacks against individuals or other violations of the YouTube Terms of Service and/or Community Guidelines. These actions must be taken as rapidly as possible with appropriate due diligence, before these videos are able to do even more damage to innocent parties.
Lauren's supposition that Wikipedia information will simply be ignored and that Youtube should simply censor the videos is based on a dodgy notion that censoring speech we don't like is somehow better than combating it with truths. Yes, they may ignore Wikipedia but not all of them. It may take longer but it's the more righteous path than censoring. imho
The problem is that they think they know best for everyone else. Their default position is authoritarian and dictatorial.
The best way to entrench an idea is to tell someone they're wrong, and be a smug, condescending, elitist asshole while doing so.
So... Basically why the Democrats lost in 2016, and why the left in general is losing the culture war. They can't get over how fucking smart they think they are, and how stupid everyone else is for not thinking the same thing.
Because you need humans for debunking.
And humans are biased.
AI won't be of effective help as it lacks trasversale knowledge.
And in the end, you need humans to train AI and to sample the outcomes.
It won't work.
Sent as ripples into the electromagnetic field. No single photon has been harmed in the process.
It's how opposing voices are to be swept from public view & dissemination. Google, Facebook, Twitter, et al are all working along the same path to de-platform views conflicting with Leftist/Progressive dogma and silence them. It's not too far down this path where we get to the pogroms, camps, and ovens part.
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Progressivism (aka US 'Liberalism'): Ideas so good they need a police/surveillance-state to enforce.
This is the same retard who thinks:
https://plus.google.com/+Laure...
And now he thinks censorship will work?
Only cowards censor.
Why?
Ignoring a problem doesn't make it go away.
ONLY by having a rational discussion, where people are FORCED to confront their biases will they ever learn to see the pros/cons of BOTH sides.
Far better is to link to equally far out crackpot conspiracy theories that disagree with the first. It's the style of these things that appeals: let me tell you the secret that will make you smarter than the smug assholes who look down on you. Simply present the truth in that style.
Shit, I just figured out why 12 Rules for Life is selling like it's printed on money. Damn psychologists knowing more about psychology than me and getting there first.
Socialism: a lie told by totalitarians and believed by fools.
The economics doesn't lie - Tax doesn't fund spending, and cant fund spending.
Yet this is against the mainstream politics view that it does and we need to cut spending, or increase tax to reduce the deficit.
Will the mainstream attempt to limit visibility of these 'fake' articles that say tax does not fund spending?
Originally, I was very supportive of the whole LGBT movement and feminism etc., but, it seems like they've just veered into a place where they are anti-free-speech, anti-white-man, anti-man, anti-normal. If you don't have some kind of social dysfunction, then you are the problem. It couldn't possibly be that they are wacko!
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FTFY
#DeleteFacebook
Nothing like a good ol' call for censorship early in the morning. If we get rid of conspiracy theory videos, might as well get rid of any religious videos. Also, if someone really does find out something and tries to publish it on youtube at least... instantly crushed. :) Maybe one day we'll be like Germany and the US government itself will be threatening fines for unliked information.
The Wikipedia articles ARE wrong.
They ARE planted lies.
That's WHY Google is doing this.
Now can you figure out why Michael Isikoff's book about the collusion between Trump and Russia is selling way more than 12 Rules?
Yes, because people enjoy a good fantasy that meshes with ideological beliefs.
Myself, I like Trump but think people who spend their precious free time thinking about him are insane. Doubly so if they hate him...
"There is more worth loving than we have strength to love." - Brian Jay Stanley
Have you talked to these people? Some of them are not joking. They truly believe in things like the Earth is flat. They are also are the same people who don't believe in blood transfusions and people are possessed by "evil spirits". The problem is that these people take these "joke" videos seriously as fact.
Well, there's spam egg sausage and spam, that's not got much spam in it.
Once a person has been "caught" in a conspiracy theory is like being caught in a cult. They become evidence immune.
1. All evidence that disproves the conspiracy is planted and thus part of the conspiracy. It must be suppressed.
2. All evidence that can be construed as even remotely supporting the conspiracy is the only true evidence. It must be echoed.
3. All lack of evidence either way is proof of a cover up by the conspiracy. The lack of it proves the conspiracy.
4. Any authority figure that speaks out against the conspiracy is part of the conspiracy. They must be suppressed.
5. Any authority figure that agrees with the conspiracy is part of the enlightened ones and is the only trusted source of truth. They must be echoed.
Once someone has sunk that deep into a conspiracy theory (and I'm sure several readers have) there really isn't any point arguing with them or disagreeing with them or trying to engage with them in any meaningful way, they are lost.