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How An Open Source Plugin Tamed a Chaotic Comments Section With A Simple Quiz (arstechnica.com)

Long-time Slashdot reader jebrick quotes an article from Ars Technica about how Norway's government-owned public broadcasting company "employs open source tactics to fight trolling": The five-person team behind a simple WordPress plugin, which took three hours to code, never expected to receive worldwide attention as a result. But NRKbeta, the tech-testing group at Norway's largest national media organization, tapped into a meaty vein with the unveiling of last February's Know2Comment, an open source plugin that can attach to any WordPress site's comment section. "It was a basic idea," NRKbeta developer Stale Grut told a South By Southwest crowd on Tuesday. "Readers had to prove they read a story before they were able to comment on it"... He and fellow staffers spent three hours building the plugin, which Grut reminded the crowd is wholly open source... "[W]e realized not every article is in need of this. We are a tech site; we don't have a lot of controversy, so there's not a big need for it. We use it now on stories where we anticipate there'll be uninformed debate to add this speed bump."
What do you think? And would a quiz-for-commenting-privileges be a good addition to Slashdot?

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  1. My God by SuperKendall · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Readers had to prove they read a story before they were able to comment on it

    This would end Slashdot as we know it!!

    But in a good way.

    As an additional suggestion, people would only be able to post as AC if they got every question wrong... AKA "Hot Take" mode.

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    1. Re:My God by lgw · · Score: 2

      This would end Slashdot as we know it!!

      But in a good way.

      A good way? [Insert plentiful abuse about you're ancestry and personal habits here.]

      Slashdot would become deadly boring if people actually had on-topic discussions about TFA. How tedious. Admittedly, I miss the days when a discussion about religion would end in a flamewar about text editors, but that wasn't exactly sticking to the topic either. What fun would Slashdot be if there were no risk in discussing the merits of ad blockers vs hosts files?

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  2. Fair's Fair by fibonacci8 · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Will editor's have to demonstrate they've read the story as well? Little things like copy and pasted characters unsupported by the site suggest they hadn't.

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    1. Re:Fair's Fair by DRJlaw · · Score: 5, Funny

      Will editor's have to demonstrate they've read the story as well? Little things like copy and pasted characters unsupported by the site suggest they hadn't.

      The irony is palpable.

    2. Re:Fair's Fair by fibonacci8 · · Score: 5, Funny

      Will editor's have to demonstrate they've read the story as well? Little things like copy and pasted characters unsupported by the site suggest they hadn't.

      The irony is palpable.

      Irony would have been if I'd type editorâ(TM)s. (I didn't)
      Irony could also have been if I were an editor and made the mistake. (I'm not)
      Irony may be that I've demonstrated that having read the story doesn't improve the quality of responses. (It really doesn't, it just delays poor quality responses like these)
      However this was merely coincidence. This suggests to me that neither of us should be an editor.

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  3. Russians by tomhath · · Score: 4, Funny

    I don't know what this article is about, but I'm sure the Russians are involved somehow.

  4. NRK is doing a lot of good stuff by Terje+Mathisen · · Score: 4, Informative

    Disclaimer: I am Norwegian, so when I grew up NRK was the one and only TV channel available.

    Even so, I do believe it is one of the best public broadcasters in the world: Less resources than BBC but able to do a lot of very good stuff.

    http://nrk.no/ is one of the news sites I visit every day, and I use their program streaming solution to view the few programs I still care about.

    NRK came up with "Slow TV", watching a train ride that takes 12 hours is almost hypnotic, and the full Hurtigruten coastal express trip is amazing.

    Terje

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    1. Re:NRK is doing a lot of good stuff by Mister+Liberty · · Score: 2

      What a shameless plug; though 'slow tv' -- yes, it's hypnotic and memorable.
      Disclaimer: I am not nor have ever been Norwegian.

  5. Worth a shot by Ami+Ganguli · · Score: 4, Insightful

    I don't know if it would work, but I would try it for random articles and see.

    In the good old days there were fewer trolls, and for a long time the moderation system worked well enough to keep them under control. This might be enough to thin the troll ranks, and tip the balance back towards informed discussion.

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    1. Re:Worth a shot by Anonymice · · Score: 5, Insightful

      I doubt the people who actually had something insightful & of actual value to add to the conversation would be much deterred by something quite so trivial.

      If you can't be arsed to answer a simple question about TFA, then you'd unlikely be arsed enough to contribute anything of any value.

    2. Re:Worth a shot by jenningsthecat · · Score: 4, Insightful

      ... I decline to participate at a site that wants to turn my browsing into the reading comprehension section of the SAT ...

      Browsing != commenting. And if you ARE going to comment, it would be good to know that you care enough about your own comments, the story you're commenting on, and the audience you're writing for, to answer a simple quiz. Frankly, if you don't care that much, then I'm probably even less interested in what you have to say than you yourself appear to be.

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  6. Charge for Comments by DalM · · Score: 3, Interesting

    The system I like the best (that I'm not sure I've ever seen actually deployed anywhere) is the concept of charging $0.25 per comment. If the trolls are the ones ruining the industry, let them subsidize it.

    1. Re:Charge for Comments by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Funny

      Thank you Soros, for taking the time for your well-thought-out and insightful post
      *pockets the roll of quarters

  7. Good challenge for AI by 140Mandak262Jamuna · · Score: 3, Insightful
    Pretty soon plugins will appear that will scan the article, answer the quiz and open the comments link for you convenience to troll.

    Hey, I have an idea. We should create a site trollcentral.com that will allow users to troll multiple comments pages at the same time. The site will provide a list of thousands of links from hundreds of websites, and your one troll comment will be simultaneously posted into all of them!

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  8. Reading TFA? Just no. by rastos1 · · Score: 4, Interesting

    These days the journalists do not fully research the topic. It's not what pays the bills and it's not their mission. At best, they just put together a few sentences and rush it to the front page. So I do not expect the article to be accurate and informative and I rather prefer to head directly to the comments section. People, who comment there, are quick to point out flaws in the article, add more accurate information, links, references and personal hands on experience. If the site, that you follow, does not have that kind of comments, it's not worth following.

    1. Re:Reading TFA? Just no. by thegarbz · · Score: 2

      So I do not expect the article to be accurate and informative and I rather prefer to head directly to the comments section. People, who comment there, are quick to point out flaws in the article,

      So you're saying that people who don't read articles are the best to point out flaws in the articles they haven't read?

  9. Could Work on Slashdot by mentil · · Score: 5, Interesting

    How about commenters that pass the quiz get an automatic +1 mod? That could work. Not positive it'd be a good idea, though.

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  10. Sounds like a good idea worth investigating by TheDarkener · · Score: 2

    I'm assuming the poster would be in charge of the questions? That seems like something not everyone would buy into/have time for. Though if trolling is a problem it's a good investment. Reddit could use something like that but it'd be difficult given their post types (how can you make a legit question about an animated gif of a girl falling off a roof?)

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  11. And reduce bots by Okian+Warrior · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Readers had to prove they read a story before they were able to comment on it

    This would end Slashdot as we know it!!

    But in a good way.

    As an additional suggestion, people would only be able to post as AC if they got every question wrong... AKA "Hot Take" mode.

    This would also get rid of a lot of automatic posts (bots), comment spam such as the "gay naggers" thing, and automatic gainsaying.

    It would also slow down the insulters and auto-dissers by making them take a few moments to read the story. As a bonus, those people would become more informed over time.

    I don't know if slashdot is interested in improving the site (whipslash has said that they maintain this site for other goals than popularity), and there may be other considerations such as "no money available", but it would sure make for a nice experiment.