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Flat-Earther's Steam-Powered Rocket Lofts Him 1,875 Feet Up Into Mojave Desert (latimes.com)

An anonymous reader quotes a report from Los Angeles Times: "Mad" Mike Hughes, the rocket man who believes the Earth is flat, propelled himself about 1,875 feet into the air Saturday before a hard landing in the Mojave Desert. He told the Associated Press that outside of an aching back he's fine after the launch near Amboy, Calif. The launch in the sparsely populated desert town about 150 miles east of Los Angeles -- was originally scheduled in November. It was scrubbed several times due to logistical issues with the Bureau of Land Management and mechanical problems that kept popping up. The 61-year-old limo driver converted a mobile home into a ramp and modified it to launch from a vertical angle so he wouldn't fall back to the ground on public land. For months he's been working on overhauling his rocket in his garage. It looked like Saturday might be another in a string of cancellations, given that the wind was blowing and his rocket was losing steam. Ideally, they wanted it at 350 psi for maximum thrust, but it was dropping to 340. Sometime after 3 p.m. PDT, and without a countdown, Hughes' rocket soared into the sky. Hughes reached a speed that Stakes estimated to be around 350 mph before pulling his parachute. Hughes was dropping too fast, though, and he had to deploy a second one. He landed with a thud and the rocket's nose broke in two places like it was designed to do.

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  1. And then a hero comes along by PopeRatzo · · Score: 5, Insightful

    The 61-year-old limo driver converted a mobile home into a ramp and modified it to launch from a vertical angle so he wouldn't fall back to the ground on public land. For months he's been working on overhauling his rocket in his garage.

    This dude is a fucking inspiration.

    "Mad" Mike Hughes, I salute you.

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    1. Re:And then a hero comes along by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 4, Funny

      Did he prove that the earth is flat?

    2. Re:And then a hero comes along by silverkniveshotmail. · · Score: 5, Funny

      Of course. If you can't see the curvature of a 12,000km sphere from 1,900ft it's scientifically flat.

    3. Re:And then a hero comes along by PopeRatzo · · Score: 5, Insightful

      Did he prove that the earth is flat?

      That doesn't matter. None of the flat earth stuff matters. Columbus thought he was sailing to India.

      "Mad" Mike Hughes embodies the real American spirit. He had a dream and he put his life on the line for it and shot himself into the air on a homemade goddamn rocket. It's the unifying concept of Westward, Ho! except he was already in California and couldn't go West any more, so he turned a goddamn mobile home into a goddamn launch pad.

      Jesus, if you guys can't see how magnificent that is, your souls have been hollowed out.

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    4. Re:And then a hero comes along by PopeRatzo · · Score: 4, Interesting

      Turn in your nerd card, and stop posting.

      Shame on you. If "Mad" Mike Hughes had connected 1000 Raspberry Pis and 1000 Geforce 1080s into a Beowulf cluster in order to mine something called "cryptocurrency" which will replace all the world's currencies, you'd be cheering and calling him the second coming of Notch or some shit.

      This guy sat down and designed and built a homemade rocket and launchpad. He's 100 times the nerd you are.

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    5. Re:And then a hero comes along by PopeRatzo · · Score: 5, Informative

      But did it really happen?

      There were lots of videos and witnesses to his previous cancelled/failed launches.

      This successful launch has no video (that's been shared) and scant witnesses.

      Of course there was video. VIdeo of the launch and video of paramedics extracting him from the crashed spacecraft. More than one video, too. The main one was shot by an AP cameraman. All sorts of witnesses, too.

      Where did you get the idea there were no videos or photos?

      https://gizmodo.com/at-long-la...

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    6. Re: And then a hero comes along by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Informative

      and yet from there he could have just taken the gondola in Palm Springs up to the top of Mt San Jacinto and gotten almost 10x higher than he did. Or hike to the top of Mt Whitney, and just look out to the east.
      Or for about the same altitude, just go to Chicago, go to the top of Sears Tower. Tgen explain how on a clear day one can see over to Michigan, and reconcile why one cannot see it from Lake Shore Drive.

    7. Re:And then a hero comes along by saloomy · · Score: 5, Insightful

      I don't understand, 1900ft? There are buildings taller than that! Why the expense of a rocket? Why not go get on a hot air ballon? The rides are like $40....

    8. Re:And then a hero comes along by SirSlud · · Score: 5, Funny

      Hey, he embodies the American spirit. The human spirit, really, in which your dreams are more important than reality.

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    9. Re:And then a hero comes along by SirSlud · · Score: 4, Funny

      It's pretty easy to doctor video these days. I rather doubt it happened.

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    10. Re:And then a hero comes along by robbak · · Score: 5, Insightful

      He didn't believe in science like, for instance, classical mechanics, so was unable to calculate that he would only reach 600 meters. He believed his rocket would take him to space.

      I fully expect that he will claim that he has proven that the earth is flat, because he would not have been able to see earth's curvature from only 600 meters, unless he wanted to.

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    11. Re: And then a hero comes along by Balial · · Score: 5, Insightful

      But proving the earth was flat wasn't his original intention at all. He was trying to build this rocket for ages, then realized he could get the funding from flat earthers because they are dumb, so drummed up a bunch of interest and cash saying he could prove the earth was flat.

      So yeah, some guy grifting stupid people for his own silly endeavors. The american dream.

    12. Re:And then a hero comes along by quantaman · · Score: 5, Interesting

      That doesn't matter. None of the flat earth stuff matters. Columbus thought he was sailing to India.

      Columbus was a bit loopy thinking he could reach India, this dude is completely bonkers, there's no comparison.

      "Mad" Mike Hughes embodies the real American spirit. He had a dream and he put his life on the line for it and shot himself into the air on a homemade goddamn rocket. It's the unifying concept of Westward, Ho! except he was already in California and couldn't go West any more, so he turned a goddamn mobile home into a goddamn launch pad.

      Jesus, if you guys can't see how magnificent that is, your souls have been hollowed out.

      I'll give him full props for going through with it, I thought the whole rocket thing was a scam. The fact he actually built a rocket and launched himself into the sky is an awesome example of determination and ingenuity.

      But he's still loopier than a bag of yarn.

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    13. Re:And then a hero comes along by PopeRatzo · · Score: 4, Interesting

      But he's still loopier than a bag of yarn.

      Yes, but in a way, doesn't that make the story even more inspiring?

      I don't know what's happened to so many Slashdot commenters who can't see beyond the mundane. Has the world beaten you down so much? "Mad" Mike Hughes has just pulled off one of the great "hold my beer" moments in history and you're pissing and moaning about it. (not you, quantaman. I think you can see a little bit of the beauty in what this crazy sonofabitch just did.)

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    14. Re:And then a hero comes along by nospam007 · · Score: 5, Insightful

      "I don't understand, 1900ft? There are buildings taller than that! Why the expense of a rocket? Why not go get on a hot air ballon? The rides are like $40...."

      What's so difficult to understand?

      It's not rocket science, the guy is nuts.

    15. Re: And then a hero comes along by sg_oneill · · Score: 4, Insightful

      Iâ(TM)m not actually convinced this guy is a flat earthed, just an attention seeker looking for an audience

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    16. Re:And then a hero comes along by stooo · · Score: 4, Funny

      >> This dude is a fucking inspiration.
      You have a strange kind of inspiration when you fuck.

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    17. Re: And then a hero comes along by tigersha · · Score: 4, Insightful

      Columbus was taking a shot into the unknown. This guy is not.

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    18. Re: And then a hero comes along by Calydor · · Score: 5, Funny

      You have no idea how dangerous steam is.

      It's at its most dangerous during the Summer and Winter sales.

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    19. Re: And then a hero comes along by SandorZoo · · Score: 4, Interesting

      I think he recently became a flat earther, so your statement about not being a real flat farther might be truer than you intended

      He did. From an article posted last November:

      Still, Hughes converted to the flat-Earth belief recently, shortly after his first fundraising campaign for the rocket earned just $310 of its $150,000 goal. His second campaign, this time posted after his conversion and with the support of the flat-Earth community, succeeded in hitting its $7,875 goal.

    20. Re: And then a hero comes along by haruchai · · Score: 5, Insightful

      Not to worry, Trump will reward Hughes by appointing him head of NASA

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    21. Re:And then a hero comes along by Austerity+Empowers · · Score: 5, Interesting

      When dealing with flat earthers, attempting to use logic tends to backfire. It may seem obvious to you that "falling off the edge" is the best way to get in to space, they have argumentation about why no edge has been found. In general I expect that any given fact can be countered by fiction you cannot immediately disprove except by using evidence generated by conspiracists, such as, a globe.

      For example, and I warn you that the rabbit hole here is real, they believe the earth is a disc, surrounded by a giant ice wall that we call "Antarctica", beyond which no one has passed. I suppose it was constructed by Bran the Builder, and no doubt contains the shoggoths documented in Lovecraft's xenobiology textbook "At The Mountains of Madness".

      I'm not making (some of) this up:
      https://wiki.tfes.org/Frequent...

    22. Re: And then a hero comes along by Austerity+Empowers · · Score: 4, Insightful

      Pitched as a flat earth screed, no it doesn't belong here.

      Pitched as a private individual creating a rocket out of his mobile home, and following through? That's almost the definition of what this site used to be all about. I only hope that in my entire life I do something equally amazing, but I doubt it.

      I wouldn't ever encourage it though, this is a really good way to get yourself killed, and he seemed to be well aware of it.

    23. Re:And then a hero comes along by Dorianny · · Score: 4, Insightful
      Because he is a want-to-be daredevil that just wanted some free publicity for his stunt.

      Some nobody pulling a stunt on a oversized bottle-rocket might make the local news, but someone trying to prove the earth is flat on a homemade rocket, now that's national front-page news.

      Nothing difficult to understand

    24. Re: And then a hero comes along by Actually,+I+do+RTFA · · Score: 4, Insightful

      He doesn't think the earth is flat. He thinks he wanted to ride a homemade rocket. He tried other funding sources before suddenly deciding that the earth must be flat and getting flat-earthers to sponsor his toy.

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  2. Steampunk rocketry by Applehu+Akbar · · Score: 5, Funny

    His big mistake was burning pine in the firebox. Next time, a longer-burning hardwood like well-seasoned hickory will improve the specific impulse of his Engine For Raising Aeronauts By Fire. I commend him for trying this approach for high aerial flight and not simply giving up after learning that Czar Nicholas had cornered the entire supply of cavorite he had intended to buy on the London commodity exchange.

    I also recommend that should he achieve high altitude, he thoroughly seal his gondola with oakum and gutta-percha, to prevent the escape of too much air.

    1. Re: Steampunk rocketry by bestweasel · · Score: 5, Funny

      I heard that Trump is trying to persuade NASA to work with Mr Hughes to build the first coal-fired Mars rocket.

  3. Re:Competition is good by bondsbw · · Score: 5, Funny

    FWIW he beat both SpaceX and Blue Origin to a manned rocket launch.

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  4. Re:That's what I was going to say by SirSlud · · Score: 4, Insightful

    You would vote for a guy because he showed the wherewithal to build a steam rocket and survive it? This is your job interview for political representation?

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  5. Most rockets are steam powered by FeelGood314 · · Score: 4, Informative

    Steam is what you get when you burn hydrogen containing molecules. Space X flies with CO2 and Steam.

  6. Re:Units by dcw3 · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Last time I checked /. was an international website (besides CA/UK/AU and NZ have long finished metrication), so why do I keep seeing imperial units here?

    Last time I checked, it was an American website, owned by an American company based in NYC, and because we're imperialists.

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  7. Re:How to prove roundness without endangering him by ledow · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Sigh. Really? We're going to do this?

    No they don't require travel. People couldn't travel anywhere near as simply as we can, back in the Ancient era.

    One only needs to get an answer that works only if the world is round, that's all. Stand on a cliff. See further out to sea than at the bottom of the cliff, but not to infinity (or any reasonable approximation). Ships and oil rigs and wind turbines at sea? You can't see the bottom of them, if they are far enough away. Shouldn't happen on a flat earth. You should see all of them or they should all too far away enough to see. They shouldn't have the bottoms chopped off unless the Earth is curving away from you (now, does "flat Earth" imply perfectly flat or merely a curved plane? Nobody argues that one).

    Observe an eclipse, then explain it without the Earth getting in the way. It's a disc? Really? Every eclipse (dozens a year). From every different angle? When the Moon is in all kinds of different positions? You know what object casts a disc shadow no matter which angle you look at it from? A sphere.

    And simple travel does not mean "thousands of miles". Your latitude changes everything - from shadows on the ground, to what stars are visible, and that shouldn't be true on flat-earth. Grab a telescope. Now track an object without an equatorial mount (basically an angled gear on a tripod). Arms tired from all the adjustment yet? Okay, put it on an equatorial mount but don't adjust for latitude. Watch as the objects you see drift enormously within a matter of minutes.

    Now put it on an equatorial mount that's properly set to your latitude. Watch as everything works and stays in your viewfinder. Now explain that in flat-earth terms.

    Technically there should be no difference in latitude at all on a flat-earth - why would it be heated in a band with two tropics E->W but not the same N->S? Does the Earth have a strip of parallel E->W heating elements in it? And is this Earth still circular or is it plane-flat? Because then it gets even odder (if it was circular and centrally heated, you'd expect one point on Earth to be "hottest" and distance from that to result in temperature drops all over, yes?

    Far too complex to explain for flat-earth, very simple demo for round-Earth. Explain winter. You don't need to travel to prove that the tropics exist, the equator is mean-hottest and the further North/South you go the colder it gets. You DO need to prove some mechanism for flat-earth to emulate that without being ridiculous.

    This is the sort of thing we give to kids to prove in their lunch break, much like the Egyptians, Greeks and every civilisation since has managed to do, casually, without people suddenly expressing denial of it (despite being persecuted for suggesting the Earth is not the center of the universe, etc. simultaneously), without any hi-tech tools, major travel networks, or photography.

    I don't lack the words, arguments, reasoning, explanation or capability to prove this to you. What I lack is the impetus, the motivation, and the hourly fee.

    P.S. I'm a mathematician. Unfortunately, you try to state there's no math(s) I can use in a matter of seconds to prove the earth is round. There is. But you need to know maths. I can quite happily grace you with a complete geometric analysis of things that ONLY HAPPEN ON SPHERICAL OBJECTS and then link them to things that happen on Earth. But I've avoided the maths because a) I don't get paid enough to write papers for Slashdot flat-earth commentors, b) I would be accused of "using maths, it's all just theory, you know, etc. etc." (I'd give it three comments before someone mentioned completeness, for example).

    Go out. Touch that world. Explain why a flat disc, or hyperbolic paraboloid, or plane, or anything other than a near-perfect sphere would result in that phenomenon.

    Watch as "compensation effect" takes hold and you have to change not just the shape of the Earth but the orbits of the planets, the motion of the

  8. Re:That's what I was going to say by SuperKendall · · Score: 4, Funny

    How many times have YOU wished a politician would strap themselves into a highly dangerous rocket and send him or herself away?

    Now here's one that actually does!

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