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Apple Announces New $299 iPad With Pencil Support For Schools (theverge.com)

At its education event in Chicago today, Apple introduced a refreshed 9.7-inch iPad with Apple Pencil support. "The updated iPad will be available in Apple stores today, in silver, space gray, and a new gold finish," reports The Verge. "The tablet will include Touch ID, an HD FaceTime camera, 10 hours of battery life, an 8-megapixel rear camera, LTE option, and Apple's A10 Fusion chip." From the report: Apple previously lowered the price of its 9.7-inch iPad last year, with a base model starting at $329, but today it's going a step further for students. Apple is offering the new iPad to schools priced at $299 and to consumers for $329. The optional Apple Pencil will be priced at $89 for schools and the regular $99 price for consumers. This is obviously not the $259 budget iPad pricing that was rumored, but it does make it a little more affordable to students and teachers. This new iPad will be a key addition to Apple's lineup as it seeks to fight back against Google's Chromebooks. Apple's iPads and Mac laptops reigned supreme in U.S. classrooms only five years ago, accounting for half of all mobile devices shipped to schools in 2013. Apple has now slipped behind both Google and Microsoft in U.S. schools, and Chromebooks are dominating classrooms with nearly 60 percent of shipments in the U.S. Apple had some other non-hardware, education-themed announcements at its event today. "Apple demonstrated Smart Annotation, which allows teachers to mark up reports in Pages directly, and the company promised new versions of its iWork apps like Pages, Numbers, and Keynote that support the Apple Pencil," reports The Verge. "Teachers will also be able to use Macs to create digital books for their classrooms, and Apple is building a books creator into the Pages app." The company also announced a new augmented reality app called Froggipedia that lets students virtually dissect frogs using an Apple Pencil. The free iCloud offering for students has also been bumped up from 5GB to 200GB.

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  1. Pencil by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Funny

    $89 for the Apple Pencil? If a student uses it, how easy is this thing to lose?

    1. Re:Pencil by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Interesting

      This is where Apple's problem lies. I was reading an article about the new ChromeOS tablet from Acer they announced yesterday, and while it may not be as nice a piece of hardware, they said something about the stylus being available to schools in bulk for reasonable cost.

      So long as the iPad requires a $90 stylus, they won't make any serious inroads in education.

    2. Re:Pencil by mspohr · · Score: 3, Informative

      Logitech has one for $49 for the iPad... also keyboard and case.
      https://www.macrumors.com/2018...

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    3. Re:Pencil by Paradise+Pete · · Score: 2

      So long as the iPad requires a $90 stylus

      It's not required at all. Fingers will work just fine. They've just added support for it.

  2. Little late there, Apple by Locke2005 · · Score: 4, Interesting

    My daughter's school already switched from having a few iPads to issuing literally every student in the school their own Chromebook. Google's web-based office tools are okay, and probably the only option on something with only 32G of memory.

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    1. Re:Little late there, Apple by DontBeAMoran · · Score: 5, Insightful

      32GB of memory? Holy cow, that's four times the RAM in my gaming PC!

      Oh, you meant 32GB of storage.

      What happened to Slashdot? I thought this was a website for nerds.

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    2. Re:Little late there, Apple by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2

      What happened to Slashdot? I thought this was a website for nerds.

      He was born in 2005. Have you seen the "what's a computer" commercial? He is the goblin child.

    3. Re:Little late there, Apple by Mr+D+from+63 · · Score: 5, Insightful

      The tablet form factor is not as useful in education as the notebook form factor.

      My kids schools use Chromebooks and they are used all the time. Kids need to be able type up reports, do research, move files, etc. No tablet is good for that. Keyboard and mouse/mouspad are the right tools for that job.

      IPads make great PR though.

    4. Re:Little late there, Apple by sjbe · · Score: 2

      What happened to Slashdot? I thought this was a website for nerds.

      FAR too many of them have left. Slashdot doesn't have much geek cred left.

    5. Re:Little late there, Apple by DontBeAMoran · · Score: 2

      Quad-core i5, 8GB RAM, GTX650. It's adequate for the games I play.

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    6. Re:Little late there, Apple by geek · · Score: 3, Insightful

      I took all the geek cred

    7. Re:Little late there, Apple by Joce640k · · Score: 2

      My pita never complained about pieces of dead sheep being inserted.

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  3. iCloud Storage by SeaFox · · Score: 3

    The free iCloud offering for students has also been bumped up from 5GB to 200GB.

    How about you get with the times and give that to everyone, Apple?

    1. Re:iCloud Storage by torkus · · Score: 4, Interesting

      lol seriously

      5GB is small enough to active discourage people from using it to back up their media vs other services that don't even lock you in but give you far more (or unlimited) free storage.

      Besides that, a $90 stylus that (unless apple forgot to announce it) has no way to attach to the ipad is overpriced and far too easily lost. How well do they really think that will go over? Once again, they ensure no one will use it.

      That's not even taking into account the fact that it's almost 1/3 of the cost for the iPad itself!! They're (badly) trying to pad the margin with another crappy accessory. Instead, a chromebook with an actual keyboard...yep.

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    2. Re:iCloud Storage by RazorSharp · · Score: 2

      The free iCloud offering for students has also been bumped up from 5GB to 200GB.

      How about you get with the times and give that to everyone, Apple?

      The upgrade is fairly cheap.

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  4. Very Easy to Lose by Roger+W+Moore · · Score: 2

    If it is like the current models then it has no means of attachment to the iPad when not in use.

  5. To quote someone famous by Lucas123 · · Score: 4, Funny

    "If you see a stylus, they blew it.” - Steve Jobs, 2010

    1. Re:To quote someone famous by supernova87a · · Score: 3, Informative

      Yeah, I think he meant if the primary UI requires a stylus then it sucks. This, supposedly, is turning an iPad into a *more* useful drawing, editing tool.

  6. #2 Pencil support by jfdavis668 · · Score: 2

    Comes with a built in sharpener.

  7. Vendor lock-in by fred6666 · · Score: 3, Interesting

    Schools should not invest in an eco system with a single vendor for both hardware and software while there are more open alternatives. This is especially true for public schools, which shouldn't be allowed to enter such a high level of vendor lock-in.

  8. ClassKit API by atomicalgebra · · Score: 2

    Apple also announced ClassKit api in order to integrate educational software into schools.

  9. And while the pen technology is interesting... by magusxxx · · Score: 4, Insightful

    ...there still being no update to their 2014 Mac Mini is not. *grumble*

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    1. Re:And while the pen technology is interesting... by DontBeAMoran · · Score: 2

      Surely you meant there's still no update to the 2012 Mac mini, because 2014 was a downgrade.

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  10. Why Apple Pencil sucks by sjbe · · Score: 4, Informative

    Besides that, a $90 stylus that (unless apple forgot to announce it) has no way to attach to the ipad is overpriced and far too easily lost. How well do they really think that will go over? Once again, they ensure no one will use it.

    Yeah I have several problems it the Apple Pencil.
    1) Round so it easily rolls off tables if you set it down. They made it pretty instead of functional.
    2) The iPad isn't designed with a place to store it when not in use rendering it clumsy to transport
    3) Unless you are a fairly specific kind of artist (I'm not) the app support SUCKS. I'm an engineer and I can conceive of lots of uses for something like this but Apple isn't making it easy.
    4) Far too expensive for something that is easy to loose and can't be stored easily
    5) Did I mention the apps SUCK. Even for note taking which should be the most obvious thing in the world.

    I also have beef with the iPads for similar reasons
    1) Why are the icons stored in the same spacing as on an iPhone with WAY too much space in between
    2) The apps are either redundant to my iPhone or SUCK for anything more useful like taking notes or doing engineering.
    3) The cases are annoying and by and large suck. I really don't like the most common cases and Apple clearly thinks of cases and keyboards as an afterthought at best.

    I'd love to get something like an iPad but they simply haven't bothered to work on anything that is a viable use case for me. They just supersized my iPhone and didn't really bother to take advantage of the larger form factor in any serious way.

  11. When a stylus is useful by sjbe · · Score: 2

    "If you see a stylus, they blew it.” - Steve Jobs, 2010

    Yeah he said it. But the reality is that a stylus is fine PROVIDED it isn't used like a mouse. A stylus should be used for drawing only. And drawing letters for note taking falls into that category. Just drawing because that is all it is good for. If you couldn't do it with a real pencil then you shouldn't be able to do it with a stylus as a general proposition. The problem with them tends to be that application developers easily forget this and get tempted into using a stylus like a mouse (or worse a keyboard) and that NEVER works well.

    A stylus can be hugely useful on a computer. I'd LOVE something that could be useful for taking notes and annotating documents digitally. But so far that corner of the market has been ignored and Apple is chasing a tiny group of artists and designers instead of the huge market for students and professionals.

  12. Now if they would fix their parental restrictictio by e3m4n · · Score: 2, Informative

    Unfortunately Apple is still way behind the ball on the granular parental restrictions that Android offers if they want to compete. The exact same parental nanny application, FamilyTime.io, on an Android, not only lets me set schedules for when my child can use their applications, but it will let me specify exactly WHICH apps they are allowed to use and which ones they are not during those schedules. On IOS my options include : Safari, Camera, Siri Dictation, iTunes Store, in-app purchases, and ---> ALL OTHER APPS. This means that if my child needs access to lets say the 'Remind' app, during school hours, I also have to give the child access to text messaging, skype, games, and another other stupid shit they happen to have just because the teachers heavily use 'Infinite Campus', and 'Remind' for academia. Whereas the _exact_same_ utility on Android lets me literally say yes/no to every installed app on the device. Many comunication with the developer indicate the fault lies DIRECTLY with APPLE.

  13. What a strange world... by TimMD909 · · Score: 2

    The world has changed. Apple is now trying to do what Microsoft did 20 years ago. Unfortunately for Apple, you can't get the next generation hooked on your goods if they're not good enough and not the right price. Add in issues getting affordable software into their damned walled garden, and I'm completely confused as to why Apple would even go down this road.

    Maybe all the C* levels doing Himalayan amounts of cocaine while their engineers routinely micro-dose on acid is the explanation...

    From what I'm seeing, the price is still 2x-3x too high for giving to kids. Kids break shit all the time. Unless the iPads are completely indestructible, $300 will quickly turn into $900 after the inevitable third time the kid drops it from a height of only 0.5 meters. A better price point is $100-$150 in which the Chromebooks dominate.

    And as others have said here, tablets aren't that useful for anything more than casual use (like reading an ebook, watching YouTube while taking a shit, and shit-posting on your favorite social media). If you want your kid to actually be doing research, writing up papers, and doing homework, tablets are not the device to use.

  14. Re:Less than 10% discount??? by supremebob · · Score: 2

    Apple has always offered a 10% education discount on most of their hardware. I'm not sure why they are trying to hype this up like it's something new.

  15. Yea ... but by waspleg · · Score: 2

    Google has been caught repeatedly spying on kids. and no one gives a fuck because they're cheap. Privacy was never even an issue which came up. I work in K-12. Cheap > * It's fucking sad to see kids with such limited locked in walled garden devices and not real computers, especially the federal free lunch crowd we serve (i.e. poor as fuck). They're extremely limited (even more so because Enterprise enrolled) and they don't even know it.

    We're paying ~$235 per HP G4 Chromebook, having said that there are schools in my district whose principals like their Kool-Aid Apple flavored and they will spend anything to look cool.

    At least in Education, technology is a fashion. Right now Google is in style.

    1. Re:Yea ... but by waspleg · · Score: 2

      At least for me, the primary reason I work in IT is because my elementary school was an IBM guinea pig and I was given a PS/2 which was in my bedroom at home.

      When I was supposed to be asleep I was figuring out how to load games from a command line. I was one of maybe 2 kids in the entire grade who could actually get "online" (Prodigy) because I figured it out myself. I was 9.

      Thirty years later all they're given are web browsers as operating systems which spy on everything you do or tablet toys (iPads). Even our virtual machine labs were better than this, at least they had an OS someone could look at it if so inclined and could run custom software some of which for creative purposes such as autocad/adobe suite/blender, etc.

      But no one cares, these are cheaper, they're locked the fuck down - you can do nothing at all that isn't explicitly allowed. Why? Mostly because their REAL primary uses are as babysitters and testing consoles not learning.

      What we have don't even support Android applications so it's limited to the Chrome OS "Store" which has about much useful shit in it as your average Windows phone.

    2. Re:Yea ... but by waspleg · · Score: 2

      I literally am that support. It's not as expensive as all the outsourcing and bonuses to the top. Our district has annual budget in the hundreds of millions of dollars and waste plenty on spurious bullshit like new furniture for managers.

      We've outsourced our help desk which has a quarter of the skill at 3 times the price. The same for FMLA "management", vehicle repairs, transportation, and other departments which are constantly under the gun in this privatize everything race to the bottom loot everything for corporate cronies "I got mines" and fuck the public good culture. Betsy DeVos love us (no joke). I hope your district is better.

  16. Re: Yea no by Brockmire · · Score: 2

    I was very depressed when my 13 year old nephew didn't know what handwriting looked like. "What language is that?" "Fuck man, that IS English".