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Huawei Commits To Bringing Its Products To the US Despite Government Security Concerns (phonedog.com)
Within the last few months, AT&T and Verizon have reportedly decided not to sell Huawei's flagship smartphone due to pressure from the U.S. government, with Best Buy opting to stop offering all Huawei products. Despite all of this, though, the company isn't giving up its U.S. ambitions. PhoneDog reports: Richard Yu, CEO of Huawei's consumer business group, says that Huawei will continue working to establish itself in the U.S. and earn consumers' trust. Yu's statement to CNET: "We are committed to the U.S. market and to earning the trust of U.S. consumers by staying focused on delivering world-class products and innovation. We would never compromise that trust." Yu went on to say that the security concerns that the U.S. government has about Huawei are "based on groundless suspicions and are quite frankly unfair." He added that Huawei is open having a discussion with the heads of the CIA, FBI, and NSA so long as it is based on facts.
Gets to spy on all your communications.
...expects other countries to put blind trust in its products? Trust us, we'd never lie to you? I for one have never seen any instance of any left-over communist country admitting to any kind of wrongdoing or taking responsibility for any of its questionnable actions at all. What's going to happen when Huawei products do something bad? Oh - of course its all lies, and "we'd never do anything like that".
Why did the chicken cross the road? Because Elon Musk put an AI chip in its head.
This is the only path forward for Huawei: OPEN SOURCE. OPEN HARDWARE. This is the ONLY REASON people should trust their brand. "Open Discussions" are not enough.
Unless you want to sell my information for marketing research and advertisement, then that's OK. (apparently)
“Common sense is not so common.” — Voltaire
Their first step should be a requirement to have an American company be their partner in order to do business here. This includes manufacturing the product here as well. No Chinese company should be able to do business here without an American partner. Tit for tat.
As long as the people who run the company are subject to the laws of China, they will do what the government of China tells them to. This includes updates that spy on users, and lying about it.
And the government of China cannot be trusted.
A country that Doesn't Trust its own Citizens..
Are you talking about the US or China here?
Their first step should be a requirement to have an American company be their partner in order to do business here. This includes manufacturing the product here as well.
What domestic brand even makes their phone here? They can just have a US subsidiary based here and they'd really be no different from Apple or Samsung.
The difference between Democracies and Communist countries is free journalism. When something bad happens in a democracy, there is a fair chance that - eventually - the news headlines will read "scandal - our acting govt did XYZ immoral thing". The immoral thing may happen. But there is a fair probability that the citizens will eventually find out about it. How often does that happen in Communist China or Russia or North Korea? Show me a North Korean TV broadcast where Kim "did something immoral".
Why did the chicken cross the road? Because Elon Musk put an AI chip in its head.
So because the people eventually find out they were fucked over by their government as opposed to remaining ignorant somehow makes it better? don't get me wrong I think China have a lot to answer for, but the hypocrisy here is mind blowing, the US and many other governments have proven repeatedly that they do EXACTLY what you are now worried that the Chinese government "might" do.
and yet the US president has been doing his best to democratically remove free journalism.
I had a Google Nexus 6P made by Huawei (not made here)... and the microphone was fucking unintelligible most of the time. Bluetooth was okay, but a phone that you can't use as a phone??? There was a software hack that required rooting the phone... tried that, still sucked. I'm pretty sure that will be my last phone from either Google or Huawei.
Signed,
Not a happy customer
So because the people eventually find out they were fucked over by their government as opposed to remaining ignorant somehow makes it better?
Yes, because then we get to elect other people. That is the basis for democracy and why the first amendment exists!
Basic civics here.
I had a Google Nexus 6P made by Huawei (not made here)... and the microphone was fucking unintelligible most of the time. Bluetooth was okay, but a phone that you can't use as a phone??? There was a software hack that required rooting the phone... tried that, still sucked. I'm pretty sure that will be my last phone from either Google or Huawei.
Signed,
Not a happy customer
My 6P worked fine for calls, even after it bent slightly from keeping in my front pocket. They were fragile as fuck - there was a video of a guy simply bending one right in half and it bent at exactly the same spot as mine - at the volume controls.
the concept of electing anyone has disappeared in most of the western world, you need to be mega rich or mega connected to have any chance of a successful compaign, the concept of democracy in places like the US is now little more than a footmark in history. You get a Quasi choice between a couple of people who in a real democracy you wouldn't hire to clean your shitter.
Are you kidding, your joking, you absolutely must, perhaps you don't recognise your own satire. Free journalism, that must be the kind where the journalism is not paid for by advertising dollars, that control that journalism. Even the most honest journalism is driven by charity and the need to serve those willing to fund that charity because of the protections it provides by trying to tell the truth.
US corporate journalism free, who is kidding who, it is bought and paid for corporate propaganda and completely owned by various vested interests, every story controlled, every story shaped, many stories buried and with factual proof of that even crimes, lies truth the only difference can they sue.
Upon a national basis is it probably unwise to trust any foreign corporation with your communications systems, they are an integral part of democracy and a modern functioning society. All countries should take exactly the same view, the Government of China, should absolutely not trust any tech equipment coming out of the US, it is simply the way it is. BY that same token even allies should not trust each other, the Australian government should most definitely not trust the US government, especially as they are likely aware of the many lies the US has told including to the Australian government, so no the US should not be given the keys to Australia's communication infrastructure, the idea would be insane.
At an individual level sure Huawei, why not. You certainly would not want it to dominate the market and minor percentage of the market who cares. There is the realistic expectation by the electorate that where possible the government source anything it needs locally first, regardless of additional cost, especially in the tech sector. Nobody can be trusted in this sector as proven by the various exposure of countries and corporations. In the US example it should be law, that all government employees at all levels use only US manufactured computer equipment at work and that includes phones. It will cost more but it is the sensible security measure to take plus drive employment and better manage the tech corporate tax cheats.
I don't understand why the US government is mealy mouthing their way around this. Probably lip service to global trade and of course lulling other countries into accepting US hardware and software tainted by security letters, so that the US can pull their plug any time the US wants to. Just stick to the security reality, no different the EU or China or and especially the US, any country should seek to fully secure it's own communications infrastructure, in the digital age, you kill that communications and you kill that country.
Chaos - everything, everywhere, everywhen
I heard that NK's dear leader tripped and fell open-mouth onto a cupcake. Repeatedly. Until he gained about 50 kilos.
the US and many other governments have proven repeatedly that they do EXACTLY what you are now worried that the Chinese government "might" do.
And the reason you know about it is because we live in the US and not China.
"Huawei is open having a discussion with the heads of the CIA, FBI, and NSA so long as it is based on facts."
Well, that's not how they work. Lies, deception, propaganda, is what they are into. Conveniently labeled as "security" and "defense".
This is all in the form of rumors, of course, I never actually heard anything official from inside the company, but it seems like every Ericsson employee is ready to whip this story out at a moment's notice. Given that Huawei's success works against Ericsson, I'd take the rant with a grain of salt, but it really seems like Ericsson views Huawei as its evil nemesis.
I'm trying to teach myself to set people on fire with my mind... Is it hot in here?
the US and many other governments have proven repeatedly that they do EXACTLY what you are now worried that the Chinese government "might" do.
And the reason you know about it is because we live in the US and not China.
And? has that knowing provided any benefit whatsoever except knowing your government is at least as bad as the Chinese?