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'Nature' Explores Why So Many Postgrads Have Bad Mental Health (nature.com)

An anonymous reader writes: This week Nature tweeted that the rates of depression and anxiety reported by postgraduate students were six times higher than in the general population -- and received more than 1,200 retweets and received 170 replies. "This is not a one dimensional problem. Financial burden, hostile academia, red tape, tough job market, no proper career guidance. Take your pick," read one response. "Maybe being told day in, day out that the work you spend 10+ hrs a day, 6-7 days a week on isn't good enough," said another.

The science magazine takes this as more proof that "there is a problem among young scientists. Too many have mental-health difficulties, and too many say that the demands of the role are partly to blame. Neither issue gets the attention it deserves." They're now gathering stories from postgraduates about mental-health issues, and vowing to give the issue more coverage. "There is a problem with the culture in science, and it is one that loads an increasing burden on the shoulders of younger generations. The evidence suggests that they are feeling the effects. (Among the tweets, one proposed solution to improving the PhD is to 'treat it like professional training instead of indentured servitude with no hope of a career at the end?'.)"

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  1. Re:This would seem to indicate an oversupply of Ph by habig · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Personally, I'd be fine with requiring universities to find out and disclose the percentage of post-graduates who attain a faculty position (and perhaps their salary) within 10 years of their PhD

    They already do this (not out of legislation, but out of honesty), and have been doing it since way back in 1989 when I was applying for grad school. And the professional societies keep detailed statistics, publishing them regularly. Although please do note that "faculty position" might not be the best metric for success: physics PhDs who go to work as data scientists out-earn their peers in academia by a lot.

    Why do people do it? Because they've been at the head of their class up till that point so are confident. really really love what they're doing, and so persist in spite of the odds. Not so different than your average minor league pro athlete. Wonder what the mental health of those guys is like?

  2. Re:Why indeed by cold+fjord · · Score: 5, Informative

    You've left out some of the real charms of the current era.

    Profs claim scientific objectivity reinforces 'whiteness'
    Professor Claims Math, Algebra And Geometry Promote ‘White Privilege’
    The Appalling Protests at Evergreen State College
    All-women's college asks profs not to call students 'women'
    Professor notes men are taller than women on average, SJWs storm out angrily
    Americans who practice yoga 'contribute to white supremacy', claims Michigan State University professor
    Conservatives, Libertarians Are ‘on the Autistic Spectrum,’ Says Duke Professor
    Victimhood Culture Only Getting Worse, Professor Warns
    Professor: Small Chairs in Preschools Are Sexist, ‘Problematic,’ and ‘Disempowering’
    Prof creates checklist for detecting white supremacy

    Believing in meritocracy, promoting a "collegial" environment, and even deciding “to stay out of all of this ‘identity politics’” are all forms of tacit white supremacy, she claims.

    She Carried A Garrotte!

    I blogged yesterday about a mob trying to shut down Jordan B. Peterson and others at Queens University in Kingston, Ontario, and wondered aloud, “Where are there police?!” Well, turns out one of the SJWs was arrested after breaking the glass . .

    Officials say officers searched her backpack and found a weapon — a metal wire with handles commonly known as a garrotte.”

    I could go on, there are so many stones unturned.

    --
    much of left-wing thought is a kind of playing with fire by people who don't even know that fire is hot - George Orwell