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Facebook Blames a 'Bug' For Not Deleting Your Seemingly Deleted Videos (gizmodo.com)

Last week, The New York Magazine found that Facebook was archiving videos users thought were deleted. The social media company is now apologizing for failing to delete the videos, blaming it on a "bug." It adds that it's in the process of deleting the content now. Gizmodo reports: Last week, New York's Select All broke the story that social network was keeping the seemingly deleted old videos. The continued existence of the draft videos was discovered when several users downloaded their personal Facebook archives -- and found numerous videos they never published. Today, Select All got a statement from Facebook blaming the whole thing on a "bug." From Facebook via New York: "We investigated a report that some people were seeing their old draft videos when they accessed their information from our Download Your Information tool. We discovered a bug that prevented draft videos from being deleted. We are deleting them and apologize for the inconvenience. We appreciate New York Magazine for bringing the issue to our attention."

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  1. Sure They Do by Bing+Tsher+E · · Score: 2

    "We appreciate New York Magazine for bringing the issue to our attention."

    1. Re: Sure They Do by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Interesting

      They do, if by delete you mean move to an offline system.

    2. Re: Sure They Do by HornWumpus · · Score: 4, Informative

      Removed from the 'Personal Archive'.

      The bug was it failed to set the hidden flag on draft videos, like it does all the other things facebook isn't supposed to be saving. Or ever have had, if you were fool enough to run their app.

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      John McAfee 'It was like that time I hired that Bangkok prostitute; to do my taxes, while I fucked my accountant'
  2. They use PHP... by greenwow · · Score: 3, Interesting

    which is a great language for prototyping or programming if you know what you're doing and you're the only dev on the project, but junior devs or even senior ones that don't know the code they're working with, it's a disaster.

    For example, I was able to prototype a search feature with an Elasticsearch backend for our inventory system in only a long weekend. By long weekend I mean working from Friday night at 6pm straight through Monday early morning 2am, but still it was only one weekend. It took three senior Java developers nearly six months to get it basically working because we wanted it in Java. My boss got frustrated and put my PHP code into production and had those Java devs update it. With every "fix" they made, I think they almost always broke other things. They knew the specs well since they had worked with them for almost six months, but that didn't help. PHP is awesome, but unless you only have one dev that is good working on the project, then things like happened to Facebook are inevitable.

    1. Re:They use PHP... by greenwow · · Score: 2

      > scaleability or security

      Never heard that and considering Wikipedia, Facebook (they gave away information freely, it wasn't a security problem), Slack, Tumblr, and many others had a problem with either since they use PHP. Netcraft claims it's the most popular by far web programming language. If we here on /. trust them to say BSD is dying, why shouldn't we trust them on PHP?

    2. Re:They use PHP... by BronsCon · · Score: 3, Informative

      PHP hasn't stood for that in years.

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      APK quotes people (including myself) without context and should not be trusted. Just thought you should know.
  3. Might genuinely be a bug by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Insightful

    Facebook was built on PHP with apache web server, they aren't even properly utilizing web sockets yet relying on $.post network storms to update information. Facebooks underlying architecture is garbage technology from around 1995 that they have massaged and tinkered into doing all sorts of back flips. Then it exploded in a sprawl of developer created add-ons along with going IPO and suddenly having an entire board full of nitwits each bellowing their egos into pet projects for the site that was must have because as soon as they said it was must have their underlyings would scream MUST HAVE and sacrifice a burning goat for their over-god executive boss.

    Facebook is likely riddled with bugs some caught some lying in wait. They never went back and rebuilt the architecture utilizing nodejs technology and are doomed to continue whipping the dead apache horse until the very last maggot gets its wings. At this point considering that almost their entire code base has been cobbled together at the behest of a hundred screaming heads it is no wonder it would be a mammoth undertaking to rebuild it with proper tech.

    There is little if anything that can be done about it either. The whole thing just has to keep failing in spectacular ways until someone comes up with a newer shinier model. Kind of like a ferrari shell ontop of a modified go-kart frame/engine. As far as rebuilding the engine goes, fat chance of that happening. Nodejs took the world by storm and now we have a technology that meets our needs and yet most of the existing architecture/developers are apache. It will take some time until everyone gets caught up and using the right tool for the job.

  4. The real bug. by AJWM · · Score: 4, Insightful

    More likely the real bug was in letting the users download these videos a part of their archives, instead of paying attention to the "deleted" flag.

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    1. Re:The real bug. by AHuxley · · Score: 2

      Collect it all keeps all file in place. What better place to keep files for later investigation than with the brand that collected them.
      The US gov can say they don't have files on their own computers. No FOIA will find any such projects.
      Just the ability to look back over all files that never got removed and stayed with the social media brands.

      Win win.

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      Domestic spying is now "Benign Information Gathering"
  5. Re:Beaten, abused & filmed by Victorian Police by Chris+Mattern · · Score: 2

    Victorian police? Isn't it a little late to be complaining about police abuse from 1900?

  6. Re:Probably not a bug by sit1963nz · · Score: 2

    They probably meant to shift the files into the shadow profile. That way you think they are deleted and facebook can pretend they have been all the while having everything you ever put on there.

  7. The Actual Bug by ZipK · · Score: 3, Insightful

    The continued existence of the draft videos was discovered when several users downloaded their personal Facebook archives -- and found numerous videos they never published.

    The actual bug is that Facebook mistakenly told users of the archived deletions. Reporting of these archived deletions will now correctly be withheld from the personal Facebook archive report. That is all.

  8. I'm shocked... by Walter+White · · Score: 3, Funny

    I'm shocked, shocked to find user data not being deleted when requested.

    Here is your deleted user data sir.