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Facebook Is Changing the Way It Stores Call, Text History

Facebook issued a blog post today detailing the changes it has made to how it manages users' data. Among the new changes is a tweak to how Facebook collects and stores call and text history. Engadget reports: For those using Messenger or Facebook Lite on Android, an opt-in feature compiles users' call and text history, which the company says is used to help it surface the contacts you talk to most frequently. In its blog post today, Facebook said that it has reviewed the feature and can confirm that it doesn't actually collect the content of any messages. Additionally, going forward, it will delete logs older than a year and only the data required for the feature's functionality will be collected, meaning no extra data, such as call times, will be stored. The collection of such data became an issue last month, when software developer Dylan McKay discovered the logs after downloading a copy of his account data. Facebook initially said that it was an opt-in feature. It also said that the call and text history data were never sold. You can see how to turn off this feature here for Messenger and here for Facebook Lite.

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  1. If Zuckie says so ... by b0s0z0ku · · Score: 4, Funny

    If Zuckie says so, we should all believe him. Yep. He's totally trustworthy.

    1. Re:If Zuckie says so ... by Rosco+P.+Coltrane · · Score: 3, Insightful

      More importantly, it's very likely that even if you deny Facebook the right to do something it wants to do, it'll do it anyway. There's no way to tell, why wouldn't they?

      The permissions thing is just a dog-and-pony show...

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    2. Re:If Zuckie says so ... by Rosco+P.+Coltrane · · Score: 3, Insightful

      The best option is a class action lawsuit to force them to delete and not retain your info.

      Okay. Say they get sued and they lose the class action (fat chance). How can you tell they'll actually delete the data?

      Facebook's infrastructure is vast. Technically, it'd take experts months to ensure they actually comply with the judge's order - and that's assuming FB doesn't actively try to deceive them. What would most likely happen is, FB would simply promise to comply in writing, and we all know what FB's promises are worth...

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    3. Re:If Zuckie says so ... by datavirtue · · Score: 2

      I have never met anyone who is competent enough to delete that much data. What you are suggesting is nearly impossible. Backups, backups of the backups, archives, backups of the archives, archives of the archives....all of the data duplicated many times over and entangled, derived. There is no way to unwind this shit.

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  2. That should tell you something by 93+Escort+Wagon · · Score: 2

    I mean, they had to do an honest-to-goodness review before they could determine that they weren't collecting the content of these phone and text conversations - which weren't part of Facebook at all, I might add.

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  3. How to verify that FB account actually deleted? by bogaboga · · Score: 2

    I am tired of having to "worry" about FaceBook and how it handles data. Can someone here tell me how to ascertain whether an account and associated data no longer exist?

    FB is of no use in this regard as they keep bugging fellas who "delete or deactivate" their accounts.

    1. Re:How to verify that FB account actually deleted? by Rosco+P.+Coltrane · · Score: 5, Interesting

      I am tired of having to "worry" about FaceBook and how it handles data.

      Me, I'm tired of having to worry about how any of my data is mishandled by Facebook - or Google, or CloudFlare, or Apple, or Microsoft, or any other big data player for that matter - when I explicitely and quite deliberately refuse to use any their "services".

      It requires real focus and total dedication to limit the amount of shit these companies know about me to an absolute minimum when I simply want to go on the internet - nevermind denying them the right to know anything at all, which is impossible. That's what's tiring in today's surveillance capitalist society.

      It's becoming so problematic that I'm increasingly turning into poisoning the well instead of trying to dry it up - i.e. supply big data with as much bullshit information as possible, since they want data that bad...

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  4. Re:Yeah, sure. by Zaelath · · Score: 2

    Not to mention, where in this explanation does it make sense that "sorting your contacts" requires a server?

    Call and Text History: Call and text history is part of an opt-in feature for people using Messenger or Facebook Lite on Android. This means we can surface the people you most frequently connect with at the top of your contact list. We’ve reviewed this feature to confirm that Facebook does not collect the content of messages — and will delete all logs older than one year. In the future, the client will only upload to our servers the information needed to offer this feature — not broader data such as the time of calls.

    Also, who uses "surface" in this way? What a wanker.

  5. Too little, too late. by QuietLagoon · · Score: 2

    Trust is lost in seconds, and takes years to regain.

  6. FB says data on most of 2B users vulnerable... by QuietLagoon · · Score: 2
  7. Re:Yeah, sure. by HornWumpus · · Score: 4, Interesting

    Cults often use private languages. Most people believe they aren't bad, so they use language to hide from what they're doing...'surface', 'expropriate' etc etc.

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  8. Re:i dont care what facebook says or does by AHuxley · · Score: 2

    The ads company will do the collecting and tracking now in real time. No messy keeping of data costs. "Privacy" is now a way to save on costs.
    The data is still flowing to the ads and nothing is lost.

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  9. Re:i dont care what facebook says or does by novakyu · · Score: 3, Insightful

    Are you sure you have done a thorough enough job? Have you looked at any particular file hosted on Facebook? Do they all use *.facebook.com? If you have realized Facebook owns and uses other domains, are you sure you blocked them all?

  10. If they were serious... by bradley13 · · Score: 4, Insightful

    If Facebook were serious, they would stop storing this data at all. Data not collected cannot be compromised.

    Of course, that goes against their business plan. So, instead, they make a lot of noise about a couple of purely cosmetic changes, and go on selling all your data to anyone who wants it.

    Cambridge Analytics? That wasn't an accident or an oversight. That was business as usual, Facebook making money. They are only annoyed that they got caught.

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