Stan Lee's Stolen Blood Was Used To Sign Marvel Comic Books (tmz.com)

ISoldat53 writes: Someone stole a sample of Stan Lee's blood and stamped comic books with it to increase their value. TMZ reports: "We've learned several 'Black Panther' comic books are currently available at the Marvel Avengers S.T.A.T.I.O.N. store on the Las Vegas Strip. Each edition comes with a certificate of authentication that details the item as a 'Hand-Stamped Signature of STAN LEE using Stan Lee's Solvent DNA Ink.' Stan's friend and partner Keya Morgan discovered the 95-year-old's blood was allegedly stolen back in October after a former business associate presented Lee's nurse with fake docs that authorized that a sample be drawn. Our sources say the nurse pulled enough blood from Stan for him to feel lightheaded and dizzy. We're told the 'Black Panther' comic with Stan's Hancock in blue is selling for $250. The one in gold is twice that at $500. Stan's legal team is currently weighing its options to go after the former business associate who allegedly lifted Lee's blood." Evan Michailidis, a legal rep for the Marvel Avengers S.T.A.T.I.O.N. tells TMZ, "We're a retail store which purchased product from Hands of Respect LLC and DLK Brand Consulting LLC that appeared certified and obtained with authorization. The books were removed from our shelves immediately."

Comments

And people would buy them?

[Viol8]

Just reinforces my belief that adults heavily into comics** are more than a little bit weird.

**No, they're not "graphic novels", a novel implies a substantial, long and complex storyline, not small amounts of simplistic text in speech bubbles in something 20 pages long about characters in silly custumes with their underpants on the outside.

Re:And people would buy them?

[Anonymous Coward]

How does it feel to be so cultured and superior to people you disagree with?

Just wondering, if you met comic fans in person, would talk just like this to them IRL or do you just talk like this on the internet?

Re:And people would buy them?

[Opportunist]

I don't give a fuck about comics, but had I known they exist, I would have bought as many as I could have gotten my hands on.

1) Signed with the writer's blood. I have no idea what kind of comic it is but if it's some sort of vampire story, all the better. The geeks will go nuts about this.
2) This will be considered illegal soon, and the books will no longer be available. Even if the blood had been drawn legally, we're looking at a health hazard. There are VERY strict standards about what you can do with blood. Mostly because there are SO many diseases associated with blood that we know, and we don't even have a clue about what we do NOT know yet. In labs, you'll notice that blood is usually handled in ways that already assume it's somehow hazardous.
3) Now combine the demand that results from 1) and the very limited supply that results from 2).
4) Profit.

Re:And people would buy them?

[The Rizz]

No, they're not "graphic novels", a novel implies a substantial, long and complex storyline, not small amounts of simplistic text in speech bubbles in something 20 pages long about characters in silly custumes with their underpants on the outside.

If you think that's what they all are, you're pretty damn ignorant. Many graphic novels definitely contain long and complex storylines - often moreso than many mainstream novels on the bestseller lists. Compare V for Vendetta's depth to that of Twilight. Or Sandman to 50 Shades of Grey.

There are many, many very good, very complex and substantial works consisting of "text in speech bubbles". Some of them even are about "characters in silly costumes with their underpants on the outside" and still manage to say a lot (such as Watchmen or Kingdom Come).

Re: And people would buy them?

[Anonymous Coward]

Aka "I've never read a single comic but since they're drawn in a similar fashion to kid's stuff I've seen, they must be as simple as that".

Re:And people would buy them?

[Anonymous Coward]

Just reinforces my belief that adults heavily into comics** are more than a little bit weird.

We live in a world where adults run around chasing Pokemon characters, spend hours playing Candy Crush, and take countless pictures of their own face behind dozens of Snapchat filters. Adults reading comic books is refined compared to that childish pointless shit.

**No, they're not "graphic novels", a novel implies a substantial, long and complex storyline, not small amounts of simplistic text in speech bubbles in something 20 pages long about characters in silly custumes with their underpants on the outside.

Uh, they're considered novels because they happen to be complex storylines that are essentially broken up and sold as individual chapters. And that "simplistic" text and speech has generated billions as those exact same storylines are brought to the silver screen. I guess millions of adults are "weird" for wanting to watch actors run around wearing silly costumes with underpants on the outside pretending to be mutants and demigods?

And no, I'm not some "weird" adult who still reads comics. Just commenting to correct an idiot. Lighten the fuck up, Francis.

Re:And people would buy them?

[Anonymous Coward]

you mean like twilight - hows them sparkly vampires working out for you?

Re:And people would buy them?

[Maritz]

Why would I want to go down to an overcrowded, smelly convention centre to spend time with muppets dressed up in costume?

You think people who read comics only exist in convention centres? How delightfully retarded.

Maybe it's just because you want to dodge the question of if you would speak like that IRL. Yeah, probably.

Disclaimer: don't give a fuck about comics and don't read them.

Re:And people would buy them?

[The Rizz]

"Many graphic novels definitely contain long and complex storylines - often moreso than many mainstream novels on the bestseller lists"

Yeah, right, and oddly they manage to get it done in about 1/20th the amount of prose. I suppose you could be kind and called them abridged.

Once again, showing your ignorance of the medium. A very large amount of a prose novel is tied up in descriptions of visuals, or elements that are redundant to the pictures in the medium (such as the words "said", "shouting", etc.), as well as white space around shorter paragraphs. A more realistic estimate taking this into account is that comics are only getting about 1/4 the information across in the same space. Couple this with the average graphic novel page being twice the size, but with the same average font size, and you'll realistically only be talking about 1/2 the amount of information per page. If you want to make some kind of asinine argument about information contained in the work, it'd be more realistic to say it's more akin to a novella than a novel.

Of course, that ends up with you basically saying the longer a book is, the more important it is, and content be damned. (But, considering your "arguments" up to this point, I wouldn't be surprised if that was truly a criteria you believed mattered.)

Re:And people would buy them?

[The voice of Reason.]

Username checks out

Re:And people would buy them?

[jbmartin6]

"underpants on the outside" is impossible, by definition those would be overpants

Re:And people would buy them?

[Anonymous Coward]

You don't know what "Black Panther" is? An opportunist should be more aware.

Re:And people would buy them?

[Anonymous Coward]

"Many graphic novels definitely contain long and complex storylines - often moreso than many mainstream novels on the bestseller lists"

Of course, that ends up with you basically saying the longer a book is, the more important it is, and content be damned. (But, considering your "arguments" up to this point, I wouldn't be surprised if that was truly a criteria you believed mattered.)

To be fair, the GP was only responding to the length of storyline, not the quality of it.
(But your analysis is excellent).

Re:And people would buy them?

[serviscope_minor]

Compare V for Vendetta's depth to that of Twilight.

So you read Twilight then?

Re:And people would buy them?

[serviscope_minor]

A very large amount of a prose novel is tied up in descriptions of visuals, or elements that are redundant to the pictures in the medium (such as the words "said", "shouting", etc.)

In tome like fantasy (I like those) sure. Tell you what, read a Jane Austen novel and count how many words fit your description. If you like anti heroes, I'd recommend Lady Susan.

Naturally I picked a very famous author there. Not all authors get bogged down in lengthy descriptions.

Re:And people would buy them?

[Anonymous Coward]

2) This will be considered illegal soon, and the books will no longer be available. Even if the blood had been drawn legally, we're looking at a health hazard. There are VERY strict standards about what you can do with blood. Mostly because there are SO many diseases associated with blood that we know, and we don't even have a clue about what we do NOT know yet. In labs, you'll notice that blood is usually handled in ways that already assume it's somehow hazardous.

To expand on that, in the US the law is called "Assault with bodily fluid"
http://leg.mt.gov/bills/mca/45/5/45-5-214.htm

All that is required is to intentionally transfer bodily fluids to another. That's it. Plus it carries a jail sentence.

If the target is in a special class (mostly law enforcement but includes some medical care situations too) it carries an automatic sentence.
For any other target (unfortunately IMHO) the only automatic sentencing is for "Attempted assault of a bodily fluid" which is pretty minor, and then depends upon the results for more. The blood would have to be determined to actually be a biohazard before the "assault with a bodily fluid" charge can be brought.

Then there are additional laws involved if you knowingly assault someone with infected blood, and I gather that also depends on the type of infection.
For example intentionally transmitting HIV has quite a few specific laws.

It is also treated differently if you knowingly assault someone with bodily fluids and unknowingly transmit an infection.

Outside of the legal ramifications, as you said medically blood is always treated as a biohazard until proven otherwise, and in practice even then. There are too many infections carried in the blood we don't know of or can't detect easily even if we do.

There are quite a few charges related to stealing blood on top of forging medical orders alone.
But then intentionally transmitting that blood (and stamping it onto a book intended to be sold is exactly that) pretty much guarantees a jail sentence at best.
If it is shown that blood carries anything dangerous, even so much as the common cold, this guy is looking at multiple felony counts and a prison sentence.

All of that even is simply under criminal code. He would still be open to civil suits from anyone and everyone that came into contact with these comics, all the way from the people performing distribution, warehousing, and selling, down to the buyers.
I have no idea on any civil suit limitations, but as he is potentially open to thousands of such suits I'd imagine all but a "slap on the wrist" limit will still add up to some pretty hefty fines at best.

Re:And people would buy them?

[Anonymous Coward]

You are attempting to argue that a postcard (IE visual novel) can contain more information and a longer story line compared to a tiny 30 book encyclopedia set (aka most comic book franchises)

It just makes you look stupid on top of being unaware of the vast difference between the two.

Re:And people would buy them?

[Chris Mattern]

Yeah, right, and oddly they manage to get it done in about 1/20th the amount of prose.

That would be because a text novel is using *only* the prose to tell the story, so it needs more. In a graphic novel, it's only part of the medium, so not as much is needed.

Re:And people would buy them?

[gnick]

A very large amount of a prose novel is tied up in descriptions of visuals, or elements that are redundant to the pictures in the medium...

You took a roundabout path to "A picture is worth a thousand words."

Re:And people would buy them?

[gnick]

You are attempting to argue that a postcard (IE visual novel) can contain more information and a longer story line compared to a tiny 30 book encyclopedia set...

A photograph could easily contain more information than a page of text describing that photograph. I don't know how you're leaping to the encyclopedia set.

Re: And people would buy them?

[Viol8]

I read them up until I was about 10. Then I discovered books.

Re: And people would buy them?

[Anonymous Coward]

Law sounds a bit like it's at least partly designed to help trump up charges in "resisting arrest" cases. "Yes judge, he got his blood all over me as I was delivering compliance blows to his face!"

Re:And people would buy them?

[Uberbah]

Not all authors get bogged down in lengthy descriptions.

Yeah, but Stephen King makes up for their lack of brevity.

Re:And people would buy them?

[gnick]

1) Signed with the writer's blood.

My question is, signed by who . TFA doesn't address this point, but surely these are all forged signatures.

Re:And people would buy them?

[nitehawk214]

Besides, you won't be meeting anyone from your mom's basement.

Re:And people would buy them?

[gnick]

Why would I want to go down to an overcrowded, smelly convention centre to spend time with muppets dressed up in costume?

I kept hearing about this TV show "Star Trek". People seemed really excited about it and I wanted to learn more. Since I assume that none of my friends or coworkers have ever watched an episode, I naturally booked a flight to Vegas and went to the convention. Turns out that every single Star Trek fan is freaking obsessed with that show.

tl;dr: Convention attendees are not representative of all fans and "normal" fans are easy to find.

Re:And people would buy them?

[Opportunist]

Don't know. Don't care. I'm not in the business of buying and selling comic books.

Re:And people would buy them?

[Opportunist]

So? It's still his holiness' very own blood. Who gives a fuck who wrote with it?

Re:And people would buy them?

[Sloppy]

Just wondering, if you met comic fans in person, would talk just like this to them IRL or do you just talk like this on the internet?

Don't discount this. The rules of engagement in that culture are that when he talks to them IRL, he gets to wear a mask.

Re:And people would buy them?

[gnick]

If you're going to scribble on my book with blood, I'd prefer a pentagram or some Wakandan tribal art to a forged signature. Even just a round blot with a note that says, "Aim cloning ray here." I'd prefer a book still in mint condition to one with a fake autograph.

Re:And people would buy them?

[Sloppy]

Signed with the writer's blood.

Oh, if only it were just that. It's signed in the writer's stolen blood, without his consent! That's already next-level material. If these sell well, next year every trendy/wannabe metal band is going to sign their albums in blood, but it won't be nearly as cool because they'll be doing it to be cool.

Re:And people would buy them?

[Anonymous Coward]

Never mind that 70,000+ people* are expected to see Stan Lee at Silicon Valley Comic Con this weekend.

* That is the economic equivalent of 70,000+ people at a Super Bowl game watching overgrown boys knock themselves silly over pigskin.

Re:And people would buy them?

[Anonymous Coward]

Just reinforces my belief that adults heavily into comics** are more than a little bit weird.

**No, they're not "graphic novels"

Nobody, including Stan Lee, has ever claimed his work is a graphic novel .. that term and style came many years later, and applies to other things. Stan Lee wrote comic books, there's no question about that. Nobody has ever tried to retroactively decree everything to be a graphic novel.

However, like it or not, Stan Lee is the man who authored/co-authored the source material which drives literally billions of dollars worth of revenue for Disney these days. Some of the most recognizable figures in pop culture were created by him .. find me 5 people who haven't been living under rocks who don't know about Captain America, Spider Man, Iron Man, or the Hulk. Good luck with that, since they've been staples in pop culture for decades. And more recently the lesser known Black Panther ... you might have heard of that too.

Most of the value of Marvel properties derives directly, or in part, from Stan Lee. He's probably one of the only comic book authors who is a household name

And, as TFS points out, the man is 95 .. which means he's only got so much time left. And like any other autograph, it has value because of its scarcity or people's attachment to the person who signed it.

The guy who did this is a thief and a crook, and I sincerely hope he gets what is coming to him. Unfortunately, no matter how they were obtained, these will still be rarities.

But if you think there's no reason why an autograph from Stan Lee carries value you're a complete fucking moron.

Re: And people would buy them?

[Anonymous Coward]

Law sounds a bit like it's at least partly designed to help trump up charges in "resisting arrest" cases. "Yes judge, he got his blood all over me as I was delivering compliance blows to his face!"

Yes, that is very much the case. There's no other reason to separate who is being assaulted into law enforcement and everyone else.

Be that as it may, it is still a crime to assault anyone with a bodily fluid, even if it is a worse crime (or punishment anyway) to assault law enforcement with a bodily fluid, which was my only point being made.

I've attempted to point out countless times to the "hard on crime" types how things such as this are why the vast majority of "minor crimes" end up being life sentences.

They tend to bitch and whine that "a black man walked on my lawn!" should carry far harsher sentences than simply trespassing would, and yet most times under such situations a trespass can very easily turn into a life sentence with no chance of parole.

Officers demand he lays down with hands behind his head, which he promptly does, then gets piled on top of by ten officers beating him near to death with their night sticks. Afterwards he's charged with ten counts of assault with bodily fluids which is an extra decade in prison.

Starting a fight in prison adds to your sentence, which actually makes sense, but unknown to many is the fact simply being IN a fight does the same.
So when this same person is eating lunch minding his own business and gets punched in the face by a white supremacist and knocked unconscious, that act of being punched in the face is also a crime that adds years to his sentence.

If an officers says the words out loud "That inmate looked at me in a way that made me fear for my safety" (the statement doesn't need to be true) also adds years to a sentence.

Screaming while being tortured, or multiple years in solitary confinement as they call it, is another crime that can either add to your sentence, revoke your good behavior status, or both.

Going to prison for a 365 day initial sentence can very easily turn into a multi-hundred year sentence with absolutely NO action on the part of the inmate.

Re:And people would buy them?

[Anonymous Coward]

* That is the economic equivalent of 70,000+ people at a Super Bowl game watching overgrown boys knock themselves silly over pigskin.

I thought you viewed yourself as a football player, you disgusting spamming heartless pig!

There you are spamming amazon and youtube affiliate links with yet another fake account, you revenue stream hogging disgusting fat sexist tube of lard, Christopher Dale Reimer!

You can be sure I will be watching this fake account too. I know this is you because you told me you were working on your freepass 11 file server and you are so dumb that you can't even masquerade yourself properly.

Now, I told you I was out of meds last week and you didn't even care to contact me you lazy fucker.

How many times do I have to express the emergency of the situation??????

The python click script you wrote for my pheromone revenue stream web site suddenly stopped to work!!!!!!

You fucking incompetent python script writer!!!

When it works, I get 4000+ clicks a day on my pheromone revenue stream web site but only 5 or 6 without it!!!!

Now, it seems like you dont care and that you have abandoned me you heartless fucking pig!

Bonus:
Here is a story that creimer told me when convincing me what a hard life he had:

The tree was him and the tree knot was his butt hole!

So, his uncle packed his fat ass with lard and with his cock! Not that it makes much of a difference but anyway, there it is!

Signed:
Ethell, The girl that used to love you and now hates you, burn in hell where you belong you sexist pig!

Re:And people would buy them?

[Anonymous Coward]

Hey, nipple dick. Creimer left Slashdot for YouTube and his comic con videos are taking off this weekend because of Silicon Valley Comic Con. You should be happy for his success. But boo-hoo fucking no. Get a fucking life and stop spamming Slashdot.

Re:And people would buy them?

[UnknownSoldier]

Get off your fucking high horse already and stop being a cultural snob. No one died and made you king.

Logicomix: An epic search for truth is 352 pages.

Watchman is 448 pages

No one gives a fuck how long a graphic novel is -- only if they were entertained.

Let me guess, you were probably one of those snobs who thought "talkies" (talking movies) were ruining movies via a focus on dialogue would subvert the unique aesthetic virtues of soundless cinema.

You condemn yourself with your ignorance.

Re:And people would buy them?

[Anonymous Coward]

Karma isn't a real thing but it's good this happened to Stan Lee.

Because what this guy did is nothing compared to the thieving and crooking Stan Lee did during his career.

Re:And people would buy them?

[Anonymous Coward]

My question is, signed by who . TFA doesn't address this point, but surely these are all forged signatures.

Jesus fucking Christ ... can you even read the fucking summary, or are you too stupid and lazy to do that?

Hand-Stamped Signature of STAN LEE using Stan Lee's Solvent DNA Ink

Do you know what a stamp is? Do you understand they make them of people's signatures?

TFA certainly does address the point. TFS addresses the point in the second goddamned sentence. The problem seems to be you.

Nobody 'forged' his signature, it was a stamp of his actual signature, but it certainly wasn't authorized, and the blood was obtained by fraud.

If you lack the reading comprehension, please, refrain from commenting.

Re:And people would buy them?

[Anonymous Coward]

My fault. I didn't see it. I read "signed" and made an assumption.

Re:And people would buy them?

[93 Escort Wagon]

I must admit that, when I saw this story posting, my mind immediately went back to this:

http://www.nbc.com/saturday-ni...

Re:And people would buy them?

[aevan]

I counter with Charles 'paid by the word' Dickens and a page describing a lawyer's door. =P

Re:And people would buy them?

[Thud457]

Solvent DNA Ink

So I take it this probably isn't viable for cloning?

Re:And people would buy them?

[thegarbz]

a novel implies a substantial, long and complex storyline

And so far there are few novels with as substantion, long and complex storylines as the graphic novels you ignorantly shit on.

What you actually were trying to say is that a novel implies "verbage" which simply is not the case.

Re:And people would buy them?

[Anonymous Coward]

How does it feel to be so cultured and superior to people you disagree with?

Pretty damn good.

Re:And people would buy them?

[Anonymous Coward]

Do you hire someone to clean out under your dewlap, or do you use a plover bird?

Re: And people would buy them?

[Anonymous Coward]

I only ever bought 2-3 comics, and they weren't superhero comics. I liked the cartoons based off them, I never quite understood the appeal of the comics themselves or Marvel movies. It's just weird how obsessed some people are.

Re:And people would buy them?

[Anonymous Coward]

ditto

Re:And people would buy them?

[Anonymous Coward]

Can you illustrate those 7 words in a picture?

Re:And people would buy them?

[Anonymous Coward]

A picture is worth 1000 words. Didn't you know?

Re:And people would buy them?

[gnick]

I could take a screenshot right now and illustrate those 7 words, a bunch more, and some album covers all in one picture.

Re:And people would buy them?

[Anonymous Coward]

It might provide a context, but only the words convey the meaning and the context distracts from it.

Re:And people would buy them?

[david_thornley]

To be honest, on numerous occasions I have intentionally transferred a specific bodily fluid to my wife. Am I in trouble?

Re:And people would buy them?

[Anonymous Coward]

Were you born stupid or did your mum drop you on your head when she spread her legs for the next paying customer?

Re:And people would buy them?

[gnick]

On a comic page, the illustrator could embellish those seven words with whatever context strikes him as appropriate. One great aspect of a graphic novel is the marriage of prose and illustration.

Re: And people would buy them?

[Stan92057]

You talk as if their something wrong in reading comic books? as if a non comic book were different only in theirs no pictures?lol im 60 and still read them. the shame of it all..

Re:And people would buy them?

[yuriklastalov]

Geek culture in general is degenerate garbage for a degenerate audience. Oh look at me, my identity is indelibly tied to a mediocre sci-fi movie franchise! When they make a bad Star Wars movie it literally kills a part of my soul! At least I have my towering intellect, obsessive personality disorder, and unopened toy collection to console me.

Re:And people would buy them?

[Anonymous Coward]

It's even better when you go after porn. Tell some sloppy fucking incel that it was porn and videogames that made them into the what they are and they'll REEEE REEEE REEE all the way to pornhub and jack off to whatever filthy fetish they've descended to.

I'm also fond of the Progressive types who are all about porn but refuse to acknowledge how much of it is produced in conditions they should find absolutely horrific. Witness Mr. Male Feminist, proud supporter of women, and avid consumer of porn staring the best minxy little sluts sex traffickers can provide. Nothing like watching some strung out "eighteen year old" from a poverty stricken country get "sexually liberated" in a gang bang with all of her pimp's buddies to get the Feminism flowin!

Re:And people would buy them?

[yuriklastalov]

But what's another trite superhero story worth?

Re:And people would buy them?

[gnick]

What's it worth? Black Pather's taken in better than $650M. That's what it's worth.

Re:And people would buy them?

[Opportunist]

That's gonna be SO last year!

Re:And people would buy them?

[Anonymous Coward]

Try reading "Understanding Comics: The Invisible Art" by Scott McCloud and see if that changes your opinion on comics and graphic novels. I'm willing to bet that it will change your way of thinking about comics and their associated graphic novels.

I too once had "those comics are kids fare" attitude, but a friend who recommended I read "Understanding Comics: The Invisible Art" really changed my view in a deep way. I'm still not a "fan" in the purest or die-hard sense, but I do enjoy reading graphic novels occasionally for leisure. They're a wonderful break from regular print reads and the ones I've read contain very complex character development, amazing art, and attention-grabbing storylines. I especially enjoy science fiction style graphic novels.

https://www.barnesandnoble.com/w/understanding-comics-scott-mccloud/1111665855#/

Re: And people would buy them?

[Anonymous Coward]

Because some of the chicks in skimpy spandex are hot!

Re: And people would buy them?

[Anonymous Coward]

By whom, not by who. And they werent signed, they were stamped with a signature stamp.

TBBT reference

[Anonymous Coward]

I possess the DNA of Stan Lee?! ...
Do you realize what this means?
All I need is a healthy ovum and I can grow my own Stan Lee!

Re:TBBT reference

[Opportunist]

Okay, all I'm giving you is the comic book...

Re:TBBT reference

[fahrbot-bot]

I possess the DNA of Stan Lee?! ...
Do you realize what this means?
All I need is a healthy ovum and I can grow my own Stan Lee!

Wrong bodily fluid. The issues "signed" with the one you want are *way* more expensive - and sticky -- I mean icky.

Re:TBBT reference

[yuriklastalov]

I wonder what kind of documents you'd need to cook up to get that sample? Asking for a friend.

This is terrible - appalling.

[mykepredko]

Are any of the comics still available for sale?

I expect this to be the response from most people.

Wow...

[Anonymous Coward]

Bunch of vampires.

Re:Wow...

[Anonymous Coward]

Time for a gifted illustrator to make a children's book about all the animals in the business world. The entertainment business is clearly crawling with vampire bats and sharks.

"Yes, these are game worn."

[rmdingler]

If history teaches anything at all, the rather morbid and malevolent withdrawal of blood from a 95 yr old will be punished by ever skyrocketing values these collectibles.

How do we know?

[dasheiff]

It could be anyone's blood. Who has the money to check?

Re: How do we know?

[Anonymous Coward]

Shhhhhh!
(It's actually a mixture of mostly red dye and corn starch)

Re:How do we know?

[Tsolias]

pfff... amateurs
https://www.youtube.com/watch?...

Re:How do we know?

[Anonymous Coward]

Watched the clip, very entertaining... specially at 2x speed! :)

Excelsior!

[cstacy]

How much is needed to give me spider powers?

Alphonse Stan Lee, iron-blooded japanese alchemist

[Anonymous Coward]

> Someone stole a sample of Stan Lee's blood and stamped comic books with it to increase their value.

Japan is more advanced. There was already such a plot in the Hagaren (Full Metal Alchemist) comics series, written about a decade ago and they've made TWO anime adaptations and a live action movie of it since. In fact they couldn't just draw alchemical-gematrical geometry patterns on parchements, to give those magic power, but the blood of a person drawn into a pentagram shape on the inside of a suit of armour motivated (actuated) that armour as the carrier of said person's soul.

"Humankind cannot gain anything without first giving something in return. To obtain, something of equal value must be lost. That is alchemy's first law of Equivalent Exchange. In those days, we really believed that to be the world's one, and only truth. But the Philosopher's Stone: those who possess it, no longer bound by the laws of equivalent exchange in alchemy, can gain without sacrifice... create without equal exchange. We searched for it... and we found it."

Kinda fitting for the new era of Marvel

[DeplorableCodeMonkey]

Every time I hear about what Marvel is doing on the comic front, it sounds like a vampire draining the life out of its victim. Only in this case it's SJWs who can't produce anything of value on their own taking beloved characters and making them "unproblematic." If it weren't for the movies staying roughly true to the original characters, Lee would have definitely lived to see the life drained out of his legacy by now.

Re: Kinda fitting for the new era of Marvel

[Anonymous Coward]

You dfogot to call him a snowflake. If you're part of the reverse-the-memes team you gotta do that.

Also,try to work 'dogwhistle' into your comment.

Re:Kinda fitting for the new era of Marvel

[Anonymous Coward]

If only SJW's bought comic books. They just borrow them and *lose* them.

I loaned an SJW my run of the first few years of Sandman, as an example of really good comics that did not oversexualize the female body, for her paper on the subject. She wouldn't give them back, then said "she lost them". I've *never* had anyone else fail to give a collection back, or fail to at least offer a real apology. And those were really good, Neil Gaiman stories!

So it has come to this

[Anonymous Coward]

Quoting hollywood rumor site TMZ. Thanks for nothing Slashdot.

Re:So it has come to this

[Anonymous Coward]

Quoting hollywood rumor site TMZ. Thanks for nothing Slashdot.

TMZ is leaps and bounds better than most "media" and "news" organizations out there.

TMZ reports facts without regard to political biases.

You may not be interested in the facts they report, but no one's forcing you to watch, and no one's hypocritically setting up TMZ as some sort of faux journalistic "standard" a la "The New York Times".

Re:So it has come to this

[Anonymous Coward]

The problem I personally have with TMZ is if there was anybody to rightfully be called vampires, it would be those unethical asshats. They suck the life out of anyone in the public eye and will go to any length to "get the story". Their accuracy is surprisingly good, but their lack of any morals or ethics to get that story I take umbrage with. That and as you already mentioned, I don't give a damn about what they report on.

Respect is the first thing to learn from japanese.

[Anonymous Coward]

> No, they're not "graphic novels", a novel implies a substantial, long and complex storyline, not small amounts of simplistic text in speech bubbles in something 20 pages long about characters in silly custumes with their underpants on the outside.

In Japan, the evolution of popular media stories often goes like this:

Light novel: fantasy story written by (semi)-amateur author, usually illustrated with 1-2 manga-style graphics per chapter

Manga: adopts the light-novel story or apart of it in serialized (grayscale) comic format, in monthly magazine printed or increasingly, web-only published format

Tankobon: Maybe half a dozen or 8-10 manga chapters bound together and rinted in small-sized (A/5) book format

Anime: if the tankobon sells well, the story is adopted as a TV cartoon series in the well-known japanese big-eyed, mini-skirt schoolgirl style

Threatre: if the TV anime sells a lot of media (say over 6000 de-luxe BD/DVD box sets) then a second season or a full-lenght animated movie for the large cinema screen is likely to happen

Live action: really popular LN/manga/anime franchises sometimes become get a live action adaptation, e.g. Full Metal Achemist or Attack on Titan.

Opportunity knocks!

[sabbede]

If I sell you a comic signed with what I tell you is Stan Lee's stolen blood, how exactly would you verify provenance? You can't. He isn't going to give you a DNA sample to test against. But I will also sell you a skin scraping to test against for a nominal fee. I guarantee that the samples will match.

Re:Respect is the first thing to learn from japane

[The Rizz]

In japan manga comics almost always display borderline pre-teen girls in sexy outfits. Hardly the sign of a heathly hobby.

Just because those are the only ones you read, doesn't mean they're the only ones that exist.

Turn about's fair play!

[magusxxx]

"You made KISS use their blood for their book! Now how do ya like it, Mr. Bigshot!"

Wtf

[Anonymous Coward]

Like, seriously. I couldnt care less about comics, or Mr Lee in that respect, but at a human level that is just so messed up!

A derivative work

[jbmartin6]

He probably got the idea from a previous Marvel editor who had his ashes made into a comic book.

Eww Blood-Stained?

[foxalopex]

I've bought books on my favourite web-comic series but at no point would I consider buying a blood-stained comic-book even appealing. The only way it would make sense would be if it was horror or something nasty in subject but for regular comics an artist or writer's signature with a good pen is good enough. I mean really what's next Stan Lee's half eaten sandwich wedged in there or something?

Re:Eww Blood-Stained?

[Notabadguy]

I've bought books on my favourite web-comic series but at no point would I consider buying a blood-stained comic-book even appealing. The only way it would make sense would be if it was horror or something nasty in subject but for regular comics an artist or writer's signature with a good pen is good enough. I mean really what's next Stan Lee's half eaten sandwich wedged in there or something?

No...

First, blood stains.
Second, poop stains.
Third, bloody poop stains.

Re:Eww Blood-Stained?

[Anonymous Coward]

Oh, just wait: "This issue is printed on parchment derived from the cloned skin cells of Stan Lee!"

But it can always get worse...

"Next up, the final comic ever created by Stan Lee! This one of a kind item not only bears his personal signature, written in ink made from his own blood - it also contains his immortal soul! Trapped in this issue through the darkest necromantic arts, his spirit will scream for all eternity for the pleasure of just ONE collector! I'll start the bidding at $19.95."

Re:Eww Blood-Stained?

[Anonymous Coward]

https://io9.gizmodo.com/fight-club-author-chuck-palahniuk-has-the-best-clive-ba-1820432549

Another book-related nightmare was the kid who stood in line to get his books signed by Clive Barker. As he stepped up to the autograph table, this kid whipped out a razorblade and announced, “Clive, this is for you!” and slashed both of his own wrists. Blood poured forth.

Years afterward I asked Barker what he’d done. He insisted the wounds weren’t that deep. Nevertheless he’d had the focus to lean over the table. Barker had grabbed both of the kid’s wrists and twisted them so he could press the bleeding cuts down, against the kid’s books. He’d staunched the bleeding long enough to save the kid’s life, and Barker said he’d even scrawled his own signature across the array of books—in the kid’s blood—before paramedics arrived.

Re:Eww Blood-Stained?

[magarity]

I mean really what's next Stan Lee's half eaten sandwich wedged in there or something?

He's had just about everything else stolen from him, why not take his sandwich too? Seriously, he should be worth mega millions but a variety of leeches have scammed him and his daughter for all he had.

Re: Eww Blood-Stained?

[houghi]

I go a step further and would no tbuy a signed copy. Might be different ifI had a copy and the author signed it for me. It deos not add anything to the story itself. It wouldmake the book less prestine so of less value to me.
I once had this bible made by a guy called Gutenberg, but some asshole called Luther scribbled a lot of stuff on the sides making it worthless, so I used it to light my bbq.

Re:Eww Blood-Stained?

[yuriklastalov]

Make mine with Santorum! Yum!

get the wooden stakes!

[Thud457]

This story is proof that Capitalists are literally blood-sucking vampires!

"Hand-Stamped" in blood

[freeze128]

"Hand-stamped"? Like that adds *ANY* more value than machine-stamped? It's still a STAMP for God's sake!

Re:"Hand-Stamped" in blood

[nitehawk214]

Yeah, but foot-stamped means something entirely different.

You could have killed him.

[Anonymous Coward]

Taking a large amount of blood from a very elderly man is despicable beyond belief. I hope who ever did it gets charged with attempted murder.

Re:Respect is the first thing to learn from japane

[Anonymous Coward]

Lone Wolf and Cub comes to mind. So does Usagi Yojimbo, both of which I collected when I was younger.

Re:Respect is the first thing to learn from japane

[Anonymous Coward]

In japan manga comics almost always display borderline pre-teen girls in sexy outfits. Hardly the sign of a heathly hobby.

In America, we have actual humans glorifying oversexualization and body modification. The Kardashians/Jenners prove that reality TV is hardly a healthy hobby either. Americans sure as hell shouldn't be throwing stones.

Stan's the real Vampyre

[Anonymous Coward]

Fuck Stan Lee, he's a liar and a thief

Headline misses the clickbait tags

[Anonymous Coward]

Shouldn't the headline have "legendary" tag on next to Stan Lee's name just as others in today's slashdot have? Or is Stan Lee known enough that he does not need any clickbait specifiers?

Not my type of comic book

[MiniMike]

Stan's legal team is currently weighing its options to go after the former business associate who allegedly lifted Lee's blood.

Fraud and theft for Stan's legal team, I would guess. Assault, elderly abuse, more fraud for presenting falsified documents, etc., for the local DA to consider?

Lucky they caught the guy when they did, sounds like the type who would gladly microtome Mr. Lee and sell "premium" comics with a slice each.

Re:Not my type of comic book

[iggymanz]

You should see the laws for medical hazardous waste, which includes blood samples.

Certificate of authenticity

[Anonymous Coward]

Unless you have a certificate of authenticity which would include a photo of the blood being taken and him signing it, call fake/scam on anyone trying to sell a comic book with Stan Lee's signature in blood. They might as well have a put an autograph of Jack Kirby on a Black Panther movie poster and say it is authentic. The fact they actually got Lee's blood over just saying they did does not change the scam, legality of it.

Is "stolen property" viral like the GPL?

[davidwr]

If you put stolen blood on a comic book, does the whole comic book - or at least the part of the book the blood soaked into - become "stolen goods" in the eyes of the law?

Re:Respect is the first thing to learn from japane

[Applehu Akbar]

I’m not a comics fan, but I lived in Japan during the heyday of manga. Those things were the size of telephone books, and every ordinary business commuter on the subway was reading one.

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The "Lightheaded and dizzy" is a bit much

[ansizfark]

Not at all trying to downplay this, but some people get lightheaded and dizzy just looking at a needle. Like if my wife goes to the doctor if they stick her odds are she will get lightheaded and dizzy regardless of if they are drawing any blood or not.

Bah, that's nothing

[Anonymous Coward]

I have a stack of old Hustlers with Larry Flynt's spooch on the center folds.

Wanna buy one?

Email me, ghoulmaster@fakecrap.com

Re:Bah, that's nothing

[Anonymous Coward]

I have the famous footballer Kaka's autobiography and well you probably don't wanna know....

They don't use blood directly

[Anonymous Coward]

Actually it's just normal ink that they've put a little DNA in, ostensibly to authenticate the signature. It's a bit odd that this was made with stolen ink this time, though.

Nitpicking

[DrYak]

In a certain nitpicky way, the above poster happens to be right, simply because in lots of circumstances (ex.: author competition), the difference betwen "short story" and "novel" is defined by the number of words.
By this extremely strict definition, "graphic novel" is simply contradicting the definition of "novel". But on the other hand "graphic short story", in turn, is contradicting the definition of "short" anyway.

But once you throw in the common saying that "a picture is a thousand of words", then suddenly "graphic novel" reach the necessary threshold of words.
(Which is what basically your good explanation about information being conveyed in the visual channel boils down to).

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[Anonymous Coward]

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Re:MODDOWN! ; creimer youtube spam post again!

[Anonymous Coward]

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Re:Respect is the first thing to learn from japane

[thegarbz]

In japan manga comics almost always display borderline pre-teen girls in sexy outfits. Hardly the sign of a heathly hobby.

I'm impressed. Here I thought you were only ignorant of western culture.

Circus Circus Toy Fair

[Anonymous Coward]

I was with a friend selling in the spot right next to the Marvel Avengers S.T.A.T.I.O.N. spot at a toy fair in the Circus Circus hotel/casino in Las Vegas recently. I did wonder how they got Stan Lee to agree to provide blood for this (although I didn't ask). If their response in TFS is to be believed (I'll give them that), they were genuinely unaware of the history behind the product.

It didn't look to me like the prospect of getting some of Stan Lee's DNA was helping sell much in the way of product for them, at least at the toy fair. However, they were mainly there for marketing their attraction show (an interactive exhibit) at another location, selling discounted tickets.

He draws comics. He's not god or messiah. Grow up.

[Anonymous Coward]

He's a great guy, but you have to be silly pathetic and with no grasp on life nor reality to swoon at his feet like he's God or a new messiah or savior. The guy draws comic books. That's it. Stop pretending like the whole world stands and falls with this guy.

Re:Respect is the first thing to learn from japane

[DNS-and-BIND]

The fact that they even exist in the first place, and have not been driven out of business by popular acclaim, is deeply problematic. What sort of fucked up art form voluntarily fulfills a demand for super-young women nearly nude? There are only so many John and Tony Podestas in the world.

Re:Respect is the first thing to learn from japane

[Anonymous Coward]

Those are the weekly/monthly magazines where works by multiple authors get serialised. They are meant to be disposable. Low quality paper. Have advertisements in them.

Later on, the series of a single author get collected into a single book about 160-180 pages in length, called tankoubon. These are on the collectible side.

(This is third-hand information since I have not been to Japan nor seen these phone books. I own quite a few (Japanese-language) tankoubon though.)

Re:Respect is the first thing to learn from japane

[Anonymous Coward]

What sort of art form does NOT ever cater to pornographic, prurient, pedophilic, and/or anti-social/illegal interests?

I hope you're not thinking of books, magazines, film, photos, paintings, or sculpture. Because they all have.

I suppose the artistic medium of "viewmaster discs" still remains pure and unsullied. At least, as far as I'm aware...