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All Apple Operations Now Run Off 100 Percent Renewable Energy (9to5mac.com)
According to a recently-shared press release, Apple has finally hit its goal of running its own operations off 100% renewable energy. "All Apple facilities, from Apple Park to its data centers to worldwide fleet of Apple retail stores, are now solely powered by green energy," reports 9to5Mac. From the report: This figure does not include Apple's third-party suppliers or manufacturers, although the company is convincing many of those to switch to 100% renewable sources too. Apple's environment VP Lisa Jackson discussed the news in an interview with Fast Company. Jackson highlights how Apple has not only focused on reducing emissions but also contributed to the availability of green energy on the grid. Apple has gone from 16% renewable energy to 100% in eight years, with CO2 emissions falling by 58%. The company has built numerous wind and solar farms in cooperation with local institutions, as well as intense focus on environmental sustainability during development of its new buildings like Apple Park. Its data centers are flanked by fields of solar panels. Filling out the last 4% required Apple to find renewable energy sources in some of its more remote retail stores and offices. It has signed power purchase agreements in Brazil, India, Israel, Mexico and Turkey.
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working for you, feed them beans, shove a tube up the arse and to a massive methane burner generating steam to turn massive tubines and there, you have renable energy. Just add beans. And chinamen.
I cheated and read the apple patent application.
Socialism is bad.
How does that work in the middle of a windless night? You may make the same amount of green power as used by your data centers but to say that you never fall back to âoedirtyâ grid power at any time is not a claim I can believe.
new mac pro will be powered by hamster on wheel and that what is taking so long.
The claim is impossible. There was a similar article about Google last week claiming they produce from renewables as much energy as they consume. THAT is a plausible claim. What Apple is trying to say is is an outright obvious lie easily disproven by numerous examples of "apple facilities" using whatever power grid is available - such as Apple stores operating in shopping malls.
The words coming out of Tim Cook's mouth are 100% renewable bullshit.
The majority of their energy use - the manufacturing of their products - is still dirty old coal.
But that's ok, because it's being burnt in China, not USA.
30% solar, 10% wind, and the rest was powered by smugness.
Seems the south was right all along...
All apple operations now run 100% in renewable energy, but not all apple operations run on apple products.
I am 100% certain that their cloud (think iCloud, Siri, iTunes store, App Store) and administrative infrastructure (think CRM, ERP, HR, etc) do not run on Apple Servers, and does not use Apple's OS.
But good to know at least the energy front is covered...
(And no, I never used MacOS Server or Apple's server hardware, I am just amused at the situation).
Witten on a MacBook Air Early 2015, with an Android Phone (KeyOne) nearby
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Cobalt is at over $80K/ton and is still mined by children. The Cobalt isn't renewable but the kids are, so half points.
Harrison's Postulate - "For every action there is an equal and opposite criticism"
Everyone wants to believe their used batteries will be safely disposed of. In the future you'll find out that they ended up mostly in vaguely-defined dumps located among or beneath the living spaces of the very poor, all around the world. The rest will be in the Pacific Ocean.
As for Apple: Their offices in Ca might be 100% green, but that's chicken dung: they don't do manufacturing there, and the manufacturing is the really staggeringly inefficient part of production, as are all the elements tied to it. So you who own the phone: you don't want to look at the reality... You want your phone.
To me its the same as with battery disposal: enough people will believe the baloney version of the story, and so long as their conscience is clear, the truth won't matter.
In the end you'll blame some hitherto unknown alien species from the ocean floor or Mars or wherever their TV teacher tells them they invade from.
Unless the answer is zero, this is just feel-good nonsense. Converting their entire supply chain to all-recycled materials and all-renewable electricity isn't possible, and the closer you want to get the more the devices will cost.
I see they finally managed to harness all that hot air coming out of their marketing department.
IOW, Apple is lying through their teeth.
I prefer the "u" in honour as it seems to be missing these days.
What the hell /.! After 30 comments maybe one would be novel or interesting.
This is an impressive feat to run the datacenters entirely off renewable energy.
Apple has enough money to power their factories with unicorn pelts if they chose to, but they instead rely on off shore factories that run on coal...
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In the long run, you will be fossil fuel for the cockroach civilization that emerges in geologic time.
Some drink at the fountain of knowledge. Others just gargle.
Considering one has to throw out their phone or Mac after three years, or when something breaks and you can't replace the part, they're probably dumping all the broken systems into the furnace.
An endless cycle of buy, fail, buy.
As noted in the article this doesn't mean that they've cut their connection to fossil fuel power plants, only that overall they produce an equal amount of renewable energy through various contracts/facilities as they use. They still rely heavily on fossil fuels. I'll be a bit more impressed when their facilities have hefty battery packs and energy from the grid flows into the site only a few weeks out of the year.
Fucking Beau, Dick fucker, ass licker, msmashdildo eater bitch
can you PROVE ANY OF THIS HYPERBOLE?
I know its bullshit otherwise Cupertino would not let them stay..
beau you fucking bitch, why do u and /. publish this shit??
It's as though you have your heads firmly planted in your fucking ass.
(yes i sed that right, we all know how much u like things (multiple) things in various orifices.. you fucking DINK.
And how much would you complain if the price of a phone jumped to accommodate your idea?
"This figure does not include Apple's third-party suppliers or manufacturers".
That's like saying Facebook runs on renewables, except for its data centres.
Apple is lying through its teeth, or, Apple are lying through their teeth.
Isn't English fun.
And Google isn't using 100% renewable energy.
Not the one in my mall. Nope. Not a single solar panel on the roof of that place, and the local utility is gas/coal fired.
If you dont like the price of apple crap dont buy it. No one is forcing you to.
Apple runs 100% on renewable energy, except for plane trips that their executives take. Whoever wrote this Slashdot article has to list all the exceptions to their claim of 100% renewable energy. Nicely done, Slashdot!
I keep reading that we need mountains of government regulations, thousands of bureaucrats, and government-driven artificially-inflated prices on fossil fuels to force us to switch to renewables. Large numbers of university professors insist that the free market will never do such a thing, and thus we need the velvet-wrapped iron fist of a benevolent globalist government engaged in Marxist redistributionist policies to force us to do ehat's in our best interest but which we are too stupid to do on our own.
America's founders held that people, left to their own with freedom, would eventually do the right thing and do it better than any government.
Our current self-appointed elites, on the other hand, tell us we are too short-sighted and ignorant and need to be ruled by out betters (generally THEM).
Funny therefore that Tim Cook, who helms the Apple that is bragging about this, is one of those self-appoinyed elites who generally thinks such things will never happen without government mandates.
I like how people always asset that someone else has "enough money to do XYZ".
Apple has enough money to power their factories with unicorn pelts if they chose to, but they instead rely on off shore factories that run on coal...
Here's something most people seem to be ignorant about, China has a near monopoly on rare earth elements and they use this to force manufacturing to their country. They won't export rare earth elements as anything but a finished product. If you want to make a LCD display then it will most likely have to be done in a factory in China, because getting these elements any other way is near impossible under current US federal laws.
Why is it like this? Because most of the world complies with international rules on the production of nuclear weapons. What does nuclear weapons have to do with LCD screens? Elements like thorium and uranium are abundant in the same places where rare earth elements are abundant. If people mine rare earth elements then they will produce thorium and uranium along with it. Since most nations comply with the rules restricting the production of thorium and uranium (either due to treaties or self imposed laws) the production of rare earth elements are confined to the nations that don't much care about producing thorium and uranium. China produces a lot of thorium and they just put it on huge piles until they figure out what to do with it. Given that thorium is not soluble in water, doesn't really blow away in the wind, or pose any real biological hazard there is nothing wrong with this. The uranium is used to fuel nuclear power reactors and make weapons.
Rare earth elements aren't that rare but we can't produce them in any meaningful quantity in the USA because the rules on digging up uranium and thorium make it real expensive. There are rules on how to handle uranium and thorium that are total nonsense, because just having an ore is a long way from making any weapons. If there was a market for this uranium and thorium in the USA, such as nuclear power reactors, then we'd see some rare earth elements being mined here too.
I don't like Apple making their products in China either. I found out why they do it. It's because the USA has stupid laws on the mining of thorium and uranium, and China takes advantage of this by not exporting the materials except in finished products. People can't just dig up the rare earth elements and put the other stuff back in the hole it came from, because just digging it up is considered "producing weapons grade material". Fix that stupid law, or create a market for the uranium and thorium in nuclear power, and we'll get our iPhones with "Made in USA" on the back.
China corners the markets on electronics because WE ALLOWED THEM TO DO SO with our own laws. Don't blame Apple, and don't blame China, this came from our own federal government.
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I suspect that maybe they produce globally as much energy as they consume, which is not exactly the same thing as being "green"...
Living in France, I can already tell you that there is no way their stores in France can be powered by anything else but nuclear plants !
They keep making their phones obsolete instead of making them up-gradable. So tonnes of apple materials are going to land fills.
Dear Fucknut:
My region has ONE single electric supplier that relies on coal and natural gas to run its generators. There is no other source of electricity, save for a paltry roof-top solar option.
Apple has at least three stores in the area and none of them have solar panels. None. This greenwashing claim of 100% renewable energy use is patently false.
If they hooked a generator up to Steve Jobs' corpse they could power half of California.
Do you have ESP?
Unless Apple's sites are 100% off the grid this is not achievable, PERIOD. They would have to put in their own separate transmission grid and renewable energy infrastructure which has not happened, so this is a bazillion percent false.
I just came from an Apple store and they are still using the grid.
Or they don't know how electricity works... not sure which it is.
What about foxconn factories in China..all apple products are manufactured there