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Facebook Data Collected By Quiz App Included Private Messages (nytimes.com)

In addition to the public profile data of up to 87 million Facebook users, political data firm Cambridge Analytica also reportedly harvested people's private messages, too (Warning: source may be paywalled; alternative source). The New York Times reports: On Monday, Facebook began informing people whose data may have been compromised by Cambridge Analytica through an app developed by the researcher Aleksandr Kogan. In its notifications, Facebook said that while the information harvested was largely limited to what was on people's public profiles, "a small number of people" also shared information from their Facebook timeline, posts and messages. Facebook did not specify how many people's messages were gathered and said it was taking as broad a view as possible when notifying people that their data may have been taken.

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  1. Facebook collected it all by john+of+sparta · · Score: 1

    and left the drawer open for all to see

    1. Re:Facebook collected it all by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Not true. He just said they do not give this info to anyone. It must be true, right? He said it in front of the congress and all the Americans.
      Shame on you.

    2. Re:Facebook collected it all by Mr307 · · Score: 1

      Mark Zuckerberg:
      'We believe that we're going to be investigating many apps, tens of thousands of apps. And if we find any suspicious activity we're going to conduct a full audit of those apps to understand how they're using their data and if they're doing anything improper.'

      But first we have to support the evil Russian narrative for the overlords, then maybe if you are lucky we'll start being responsible good citizens, maybe, on alternating Tuesdays, during full moons, and leap years, we promise.

    3. Re:Facebook collected it all by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Also Mark Zuckerberg: "People just submitted it. I don't know why. They 'trust me'. Dumb fucks."

    4. Re:Facebook collected it all by Torvac · · Score: 2

      and everyone knew it, still people are suprised now.

    5. Re:Facebook collected it all by TheRaven64 · · Score: 2

      They don't give the information to anyone. They sell the information to some people. And periodically they just leave it lying around where anyone with a tiny amount of technical knowledge can grab it. But they don't give it to anyone!

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    6. Re:Facebook collected it all by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I assume anything that I post to Facebook is mined at some point. I have no issue with it except if my content ends up with me in jail because someone disagrees with a statement or comment.

  2. Missing from this whole controversy, by jenningsthecat · · Score: 4, Interesting

    is reporting on what happened to all the data collected on people who either never joined Facebook, or left it years ago. FB has made it its mission to collect all data possible on EVERYONE, but it seems only people who have been knowingly drinking that Kool-Aid are being notified and offered sympathy. What about all the private data scraped from people who never belonged to the club, and who therefore never signed on to have their lives on display to the highest bidders?

    Seriously, it's starting to look as though the only real solution is to shut down FB, and destroy all copies of the data in their hands. There's still that huge trove of data that's already been let loose in the wild, but going nuclear on Zuckerberg's ass, (and all those investors too), would make the rest of these jerkoffs think twice about playing fast and loose with people's privacy. Sometimes pillaging and burning down a castle or two is the only thing that brings the kings and lords back into line.

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    1. Re:Missing from this whole controversy, by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I was just considering that the other day: party A and party B discussing party C on social media--party C NEVER having been on any form of social media. Yet party C's personal details will be forever archived because of those conversations. That cave on top of the mountain is starting to look more and more appealing. At least until they build a Starbucks next to it with free wi-fi.

    2. Re:Missing from this whole controversy, by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Fuck Zuck! Someone patch his image into GTA V so someone c an go into director mode and have Trevor air thrusting into his mouth.

  3. People Trust Facebook. "I don't know why." by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    The infamous chat:

    Zuck: Yeah so if you ever need info about anyone at Harvard
    Zuck: Just ask
    Zuck: I have over 4,000 emails, pictures, addresses, SNS
    [Redacted Friend's Name]: What? How'd you manage that one?
    Zuck: People just submitted it.
    Zuck: I don't know why.
    Zuck: They "trust me"
    Zuck: Dumb fucks

    That pretty much sums up all one need know about Facebook and other related services, such as Instagram.

  4. no such thing as bad publicity by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Having 5 stories a day mentioning your company in every major newspaper in the world for weeks on end... can't buy publicity like this.

    captcha: unveil

    I wonder if they'll use all this publicity to unveil a new product...

    1. Re:no such thing as bad publicity by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      These stories totally make me want to start a Facebook account. Oh, wait, they make me want to continue never having a Facebook account.

    2. Re: no such thing as bad publicity by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      FB doesn't need publicity. Everyone knows it exists.

      This is not the type of publicity a company like FB wants.

    3. Re:no such thing as bad publicity by AvitarX · · Score: 1

      That's why the pinto is so successful.

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    4. Re:no such thing as bad publicity by bickerdyke · · Score: 1

      Who cares.

      Negative sentiments will fade away, brand recognition will remain. When they as for the worlds most valuable brands, they ask "What brands do you know" and not "Which brands do you like".

      There is no such thing as bad press Only no press is bad press.

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    5. Re:no such thing as bad publicity by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      There is no such thing as bad press Only no press is bad press.

      Yeah, ask Joe Paterno about that.

    6. Re:no such thing as bad publicity by tbuddy · · Score: 1

      I think this is kind of like the good press Theranos is seeing.

  5. zuckntrump by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

    Two things will be gone by the end of this year: 1) facebook, 2) Humpty trumpty

  6. Private Message by AHuxley · · Score: 2

    A message that has valuable private data sets.

    The users actually thought private messages had something to do with privacy?
    Its social media, everything is for sale.

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  7. Data that is freely given by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    is not taken.

    Remember that.

  8. Apologies by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

    Whoops, my bad. I'll look into taking steps to not let it happen again, starting......now. Again, sorry about that little detail!

    - Mark

    (p.s. if you agree with my politics then I have other services I'd like to offer you; everyone else need not apply)

  9. We are Big Brother. by Capsaicin · · Score: 4, Insightful

    I was just considering that the other day: party A and party B discussing party C on social media--party C NEVER having been on any form of social media.

    It extends beyond simply "discussing." Take for instance name-tagging of friends in photos shared on FB (or on Apple Photos etc), which amounts to submitting a (usually) non-consenting third party's face into a facial recognition database.

    The new surveillance state is distinguished from those hitherto existing, by the enthusiastic participation of hoi polloi in their own* surveillance [*as individuals and as a people]. Not only do we willingly carry tracking devices on our persons, we employ them to photograph, film, otherwise record and then publish on "social" media, snapshots and impressions of unwilling bystanders all neatly geo-located and time stamped. We amuse ourselves with shared videos of "public" altercations, without fearing for our own privacy --indeed, ensnared by too simple a division of public/private we are locked out from conceiveing of varying levels of privacy in the world outside our room, without even enjoying it in there.

    In an age where everyone always carries a tracking and recording device, everyone is granted the opportunity, at any time, to be an informant.

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    1. Re:We are Big Brother. by jenningsthecat · · Score: 3, Interesting

      In an age where everyone always carries a tracking and recording device, everyone is granted the opportunity, at any time, to be an informant

      Obviously, I agree with your entire comment. But I'd phrase that last part "everyone is granted the status of informant". It's not really 'everyone', of course; but the vast majority of smartphone users are spying on the people around them, simply by being in proximity while having WiFi, mobile data, and location services active.

      It occurs to me that mobile phone usage and tracking is a kind of disease vector, and could be modelled with the same techniques and math used for epidemics. And the only vaccine, (and it's only partially effective), is to simply not carry a phone around.

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    2. Re:We are Big Brother. by TheRaven64 · · Score: 2

      There's a more passive form. Things like the Facebook app request permission to access your contacts. Facebook then spams everyone that you know who doesn't have an account already, and may associate all of the information that you have about that person (name, address, email address, possibly date of birth, maybe picture) with their profile of that person. I'm pretty sure that this is a violation of the GDPR, so it will be interesting to see what happens when that comes into effect.

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    3. Re:We are Big Brother. by AmiMoJo · · Score: 1

      I signed up for Skype a while back, after avoiding it as long as I could. I denied access to my contacts, but it seemed to know a lot of people I had not spoken to for a decade or more. I guess they allowed it to check their contact lists and it spotted my email address.

      Very creepy, not just for the invasion of privacy but being reminded of people I used to know and suddenly having them be able to see my availability on Skype.

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  10. Re:Why All The Fuss? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

    I can put a popup on my website that says, "By clicking 'I accept', I agree to sell you my teenaged daughter for $100."

    You can click "I accept", and...

    Guess what? It's still illegal for me to sell you my daughter.

    Better luck next time, Mark.

  11. Re:Why All The Fuss? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Nice strawman!

  12. Re:Why All The Fuss? by TheRaven64 · · Score: 2

    In English Common Law countries, the legal test for whether a contract is valid is whether a 'meeting of minds' has occurred. A signature is typically not legal as a result of any statute law, but is considered legally binding because of a body of case law that argues that it is a strong indication that a meeting of minds has occurred, though with some caveats (a witnessed signature with each page initialled is, for example, considered to be stronger evidence and for some contracts the lack of such a thing would be considered surprising). There is very little case law regarding click-through agreements and so any court would likely weigh the case on its merits individually. Facebook would have to prove in court that a typical reader who clicked on the agree button understood the terms, or at least was able to understand the terms. I suspect that they'd have a hard job doing this.

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