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Spotify Is Planning a New Version of Its Free Music Service (bloomberg.com)

An anonymous reader shares a report: Spotify Technology is developing a new version of its free music service, the first big product change since the streaming company went public last week, according to people familiar with the matter. The company is tweaking the free service to make it easier to use, especially for customers on mobile phones, said the people. An announcement is expected within a couple weeks. Spotify needs to attract large numbers of new listeners to satisfy investors who value the newly public company based on user growth. The free service generates customers that the company can steer into its paid offerings. The paid version accounts for less than half of Spotify's customer base, but generated about 90 percent of its 4.09 billion euros in 2017 revenue. [...] With the updated service, free mobile listeners will be able to access playlists more quickly and have more control over what songs they hear on top playlists, mimicking Spotify's ad-free subscription product. The basic package is $9.99 a month.

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  1. The basic package is $9.99 a month. by DontBeAMoran · · Score: 5, Insightful

    And here lies the problem. If I can subscribe to Netflix and watch TV shows and movies for less than $10 per month, then I want to pay less than Netflix to listen to music.

    At $5 per month I'd start to think about it. At $3 per month I wouldn't even think about it and just subscribe.

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    1. Re:The basic package is $9.99 a month. by RevDobbs · · Score: 1

      Not two minutes ago I got spam'ed offering to add Hulu for $3 a month -- $12.99 for both seems like a good deal.

    2. Re:The basic package is $9.99 a month. by ctilsie242 · · Score: 3, Informative

      For $10 a month, I can watch YouTube Red and use the YouTube Music app, which seems to have more bands that are not carried by Spotify. Plus, what sets them apart from Google Music or Apple Music, either of which I wouldn't require additional software to work?

    3. Re:The basic package is $9.99 a month. by Rick+Schumann · · Score: 1

      Support FM broadcast radio which has always been free (and I don't want to hear anyone say "oh but it's not free there are commercials!", stop whining and turn down the damned volume or switch to another station if you can't handle it).

    4. Re:The basic package is $9.99 a month. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Agreed, the pricing model is nowhere near the value they think it is. $120 a year for basically radio, or if your mobile device is not the latest version of Android you get a significantly crappier experience.

      For $3 a month, sure. $9.99? lol no fracking way. I don't care about your shareholders or your quarterly reports. If Spotify dies nothing will missed.

    5. Re:The basic package is $9.99 a month. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Insightful

      Support FM broadcast radio which has always been free (and I don't want to hear anyone say "oh but it's not free there are commercials!", stop whining and turn down the damned volume or switch to another station if you can't handle it).

      Problem is that all the stations seem to go to commercial at the same time. I'm not willing to listen to 20-30 minutes of commercials an hour on FM radio. I quit listening in 2002 and have no plans to ever listen again. The few times I have had to (rental car) I had to turn it off. The commercial load is just ridiculous.

    6. Re:The basic package is $9.99 a month. by gnick · · Score: 2

      My $5 Pandora subscription streams commercial-free with as many skips as I want. For $10, I could pick specific songs. It's well worth the $5; I don't understand the comparison with Netflix. It's lower bandwidth, sure, but I spend a LOT bigger part of the day streaming music than I do watching Netflix. So, $/GB, music's much more expensive. $/hour, for me, music's much cheaper.

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    7. Re:The basic package is $9.99 a month. by Rick+Schumann · · Score: 1

      You're exagerating and you're also not factual. I listen to the radio all the time when I'm driving and it's nowhere near as bad as you're claiming.

    8. Re:The basic package is $9.99 a month. by gnick · · Score: 1

      nobody offers less than $10/mo so it's hard to find a decent alternative

      Why no love for Pandora? For $5/month I get unlimited skips and no commercials. I love it.

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    9. Re:The basic package is $9.99 a month. by ScienceofSpock · · Score: 2

      While his "20-30 mins of commercials an hour" is a bit of an exaggeration, it's not THAT big of an exaggeration. When you consider all the promos they do, "partnering" with local businesses, self promotions and all the other crap, you end up with about 20 mins of music an hour. And Clear Channel owns a very large number of stations, usually owning multiple stations in large metro areas, so yeah, changing the station in those areas is likely to get you nothing but more commercials.

      Personally, I stopped listening to the radio a long time ago, but still check it from time to time to see how bad it has gotten, and GP isn't far off from the truth, at least not here in Vegas.

    10. Re:The basic package is $9.99 a month. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      As much as I hated to do it, I recently switched from Pandora to Spotify after many years of loyalty to (and borderline-fanboy evangelism about) the former.

      There are things I hate about the Spotify UI, and things I miss about Pandora - namely, shuffling multiple 'stations'/playlists - but here's the thing: Spotify has a waaay bigger library. If you're really into music discovery the way I am, that one factor outweighs all others. No matter how I tried, toward the end there Pandora kept playing me too much stuff I'd already heard. There too many great recordings I've never heard out there for me to keep listening to the same songs (unless I'm utterly obsessed with them, and even then I don't want to overdo it)! Plus, I really, really missed enjoying full albums all the way through.

      If you're an average music consumer, these are not huge problems. But if my pet peeves above strike a chord with you, consider checking out services with a bigger library. I'm fairly certain Amazon, Google, Spotify and YouTube are all in this category, and probably several others.

    11. Re:The basic package is $9.99 a month. by CastrTroy · · Score: 1

      $10 is less than the cost of a single album, for access to all the albums (for the most part). You might have a valid comparison with Netflix if they had a larger selection. The selection on Netflix is good for $10, but it's nowhere near as complete as what Spotify and other music streaming platforms have. I think that's the big difference. If Netflix had as much selection as Spotify, they would be demanding much higher subscription prices. Spotify has 30 million tracks while Netflix has around 6500 movies and 1600 TV shows.

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    12. Re:The basic package is $9.99 a month. by Samurai+Nigel · · Score: 3, Insightful

      It's awful, and that's the point. When Clear Channel... sorry, "iHeartMedia" owns 75% of the channels in your market (and every market) they absolutely do time their commercials together.

      I stopped supporting FM radio a LONG time ago.

    13. Re:The basic package is $9.99 a month. by gnick · · Score: 1

      I have a ~270 hour mp3 collection that handles listening to my favorite albums. I spend probably as much time listening to albums at home as I do listening to satellite in my car. I listen to much more Pandora than I do either of those. I do notice that a lot of Pandora gets familiar, but lately it's been surprising me with some fun, live Grateful Dead. Maybe their library will eventually get too familiar, but I'm not there yet.

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    14. Re:The basic package is $9.99 a month. by Rick+Schumann · · Score: 1

      Well I dunno about where you live but it's not anywhere near that bad where I am, and furthermore it's not really any different than it's been for the last 20 years at least. You hop around stations when there's commercials just like always, they don't all always line up. It's fine for free.

    15. Re:The basic package is $9.99 a month. by Rick+Schumann · · Score: 1

      If more people supported it over time it would get 'less awful'. As is you're all going to be paying cash out of pocket every month for basically the same thing. You may as well just give up and carry your own music and forget all about the rest.

    16. Re:The basic package is $9.99 a month. by hipp5 · · Score: 1

      Support FM broadcast radio which has always been free (and I don't want to hear anyone say "oh but it's not free there are commercials!", stop whining and turn down the damned volume or switch to another station if you can't handle it).

      Yeah, except in addition to commercials, I also have to endure all their "sound effects SOUND EFFECTS sOuNd EfFeCtS" and the ramblings of some obnoxious DJ telling me the "funny" story of how they were filling up their car this morning and SPILLED GAS ON MY NEW SHOES HAHAHAHAHAHAHAH.

      Nope, FM radio has got to be one of the most painful forms of media in the world. I'll take the free Spotify, thank you very much. And once my financial situation improves, I'll be getting the paid version.

    17. Re:The basic package is $9.99 a month. by gnick · · Score: 1

      FM's not nearly as bad as Spock describes here in Albuquerque, and I can't imagine Clear Channel stations differ THAT much from region to region. I'm used to maybe 3 songs, followed by changing the station to avoid ads. Worst case, ad breaks aren't more than about 3 minutes per 3 songs.

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    18. Re:The basic package is $9.99 a month. by Samurai+Nigel · · Score: 1

      No, I am paying each month so I can play any song I want, when I want. I pay each month so I can save playlists, and have them played back from my devices when I'm offline. I pay each month so I can discover new music, based on the feedback of other users who make recommendations based on the artists I like. I pay each month so I can play them on my phone, my tablet, my computer, or in my car. I pay for high-quality audio. I pay so my stations can be specifically geared to my interests, and to artists I like, rather than those that Clear Channel implies I should like. I pay so I can skip songs, go back to songs, and look back at the history of what I've been listening to. I pay so I can share my playlists and favorite artists easily with friends and family. Oh, and I pay the extra ($15/month instead of $10) so five members of my family can enjoy these same benefits.

      FM radio has never been this good, and regardless of the number of people who support it, never will be.

    19. Re:The basic package is $9.99 a month. by TheFakeTimCook · · Score: 1

      They do offer $15/mo for 5 accounts... which is the only way Spotify is worth it. The downside is that nobody offers less than $10/mo so it's hard to find a decent alternative that doesn't try to lock you into a specific platform like Apple Music

      What do you mean "Lock you into a specific platform"? There is an Apple Music Client for Android and iTunes (which is also an Apple Music Client) is available for Windows, too.

      https://play.google.com/store/...

      https://www.apple.com/itunes/d...

      Linux, as usual, takes the hindmost, sorry. I guess when it's finally the year of the Linux Desktop, things will be different...

      Wait! They're different NOW! (If you have Ubuntu, at least).

      https://askubuntu.com/question... ...or other Distros:

      http://www.tunefab.com/tutoria...

      http://www.sidify.com/guide/ho...

      https://www.reddit.com/r/linux...

    20. Re: The basic package is $9.99 a month. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      herein lies my proble. Why would I support a multi-billion dollar company that has repeatedly trolled copyright records, sending illegal and false notices (as proven in US Court) for streaming rights, and well as sending these noi to incoorect parties, then preventing contact with an answering machine and no reply/action to correct. In other words they have and continue to STEAL, abuse and money launder with big holding agencies the artists and creators big and small. Thieves with big money, brushing off occasional lawsuits, rinse, repeat. AND the people that pay them are no better.

    21. Re:The basic package is $9.99 a month. by jwhyche · · Score: 2

      Yeah, except in addition to commercials, I also have to endure all their "sound effects SOUND EFFECTS sOuNd EfFeCtS" and the ramblings of some obnoxious DJ telling me the "funny" story of how they were filling up their car this morning and SPILLED GAS ON MY NEW SHOES HAHAHAHAHAHAHAH.

      Oh my god this and a bowl of fruitloops. I don't turn off radio so much for the commercials as I do the fucking Dj and other annoying shit they stick in. Morning shows are the worse. I drove across town one morning, 45 minutes and didn't hear one song. Nothing but morning dj's rambling on about what ever they through was important. Which none of it was. The it was "Bong Bong Bong" every 5 fucking minutes.

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    22. Re:The basic package is $9.99 a month. by Rick+Schumann · · Score: 1

      pay each month

      Yah? I think that's dumb. BUY the music you want, play it as many times as you like, never pay again, don't use up your data cap on a mobile device, don't need Internet. Go right ahead and keep buying in to the business model of "you own nothing, everything is a rental".

    23. Re:The basic package is $9.99 a month. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I watch some movies at night but listen to Spotify all day during work, when I'm at the gym, driving, mowing the lawn, doing work around the house, etc. I think "video > audio" may apply to you, but it's not universal. I haven't downloaded any music illegally since spotify gave me the option not to. I'm a huge fan of the pricing.

    24. Re:The basic package is $9.99 a month. by Samurai+Nigel · · Score: 1

      There it is, the core of your hatred. The "rental" model is your real grumble.

      I have bad news for you: This is now the way the world works. It's all based on "services" that you pay for. Netflix, Hulu, Spotify, HBO Now, hell, Adobe Creative Cloud Car2Go... You pay for the service.

      On the one hand, you never "own" the music, movie or software you're renting. On the other hand, you have unlimited access to as much as the service provides. If I were in constant states of disconnection, or needed the portability of ownership, I'd probably prefer ownership. If, however, I can have a superior selection of on-demand services for a fraction of the yearly cost of ownership, and I'm living in a place where I'm constantly "connected" to the services... I know which my wallet prefers. I like watching movies and TV shows, but with very rare exceptions, I will only watch them once or twice in any given dozen years. Why would I pay $20 a pop for a movie, or $50/month for TV service when I can watch what I want and never watch again for a fraction of the price? Music might be a better candidate for purchase on the surface (since I tend to replay songs I like much more frequently) but I also listen to a LOT of artist. I can either pay a dollar for every single song I enjoy to "own" them, or just drop $100 a year to listen to all the music I like (which is well in excess of a meager 100 songs.)

      You think it's dumb, but when you're feeding a family of eight, I think it's the only reasonable, cost-efficient way to live.

    25. Re:The basic package is $9.99 a month. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      wow censored, removed my comment. ethics is a trending tech topic. my calling out the illegality and recent court cases against Spotify apparently resulted in a removed comment. so much for relevant tech topic points. I guess slashdot and its daily squatters have little zero conscience or sense of morality or ethics concerning Spotify abuse, illegal serving of noi (as again, i will say it - proven in US court) don't matter - but DontBeAMoran SPAMMING and pushing spotify with a meaningless top commentary is OK. I will screenshot this for a second example of censorship on Spotify. It is fraud when you purport to offer free speech and and commentary as long as it applies to topic and is not by common sense abusive or off-point, which my initial comment was certainly not. I provided fact and relevant point s regarding "tech" and "ethics", result = removed because it was not positive to Spotify or opposed or criticized the highlighted comment. Interesting.

      As far as Spotify and its use: Spotify in multiple cases and the last several years of process has basically trolled copyright office records data scooping and sending illegal noi to improper and "incorrect copyright holders," purpose and in-truth money laundering/holding of streamed royalty earnings with Harry Fox Agency.

      Example. Find Track A, by copyright holder A. Send illegal NOI to some completely other, unrelated copyright holder B. When questioned, their response = "error in with their automated information collection system," and in which i have in evidence - written admission of this accusation. This multi-billion dollar company then gets sued, they settle, rinse and repeat. They are knowingly and intentionally (you cannot blame faulty tech or use it as an excuse - pretty funny or ridiculous on multiple levels). (Attention so-called slashdot users who actually are interested in real tech discussion, problems and major ethics not to mention outright criminal behavior by big tech giants).

      No wonder the owner of Spotify Daniel Ek [the name you never hear] is good friends with Zuckerberg of Facebook. Biggest frauds and crooks on the planet - but hey, it's only music, right? How would you feel when you can barely survive in your little shack and big Daniel Ek and its army of music industry/L.A./N.Y. crooks and lowlives come and burn your house down? As an artist, I am not bothered when people share my music at all, as long as they are not selling it - point blank. Worse than even the harvesting and data collection by Facebook, for example, where not-smart or ignorant people gave it all away to their own and their future children's detriment, Spotify has taken illegally, filed and processed illegally, holding billions of dollars illegally, if it could be retroactively traced - BOTH in actually toing immense harm to society, the living people who do create are robbed from a dastardly and malevolent streaming service. WHY is this exploitation on such a grand (larceny) level accpetable today? It would not have been a decade ago. WHY do people excuse and accept everything based on popularity and peer pressure alone? What has happened to our society.

      PS. As far as development with you can certainly see the lack of tech at play when their own representatives, according to my preserved documentation, explicitly state that the false (and illegal) noi sent out to acquire this truly "pirated" audio was due do to error or problem in their data collection technology. Interesting statement.

      Use and support of Spotify had ripped off hundreds of thousands of tracks, real musicians and artist who have not given their consent in any manner in accordance of streaming laws to Spotify. Spotify just took it, have no problem with simply settling once in awhile, paying off.

      How do you justify and company that comes in and straight steals, profits and grows to the multi-billion mark. How does a potential user or user have the moral conscience to support such a company? Facebook is finally coming under the gun perhaps... we'll see what actually

    26. Re:The basic package is $9.99 a month. by h4ck7h3p14n37 · · Score: 1

      $10 per month for Spotify is an incredible deal if you listen to music regularly. That's less than the cost of most CD's.

      YMMV, but my Netflix subscription is hardly used these days. They lost all of the television series I watch to Hulu and I've already seen most of the shows I care about. In comparison Spotify has order of magnitude more content I want to consume.

    27. Re:The basic package is $9.99 a month. by Rick+Schumann · · Score: 1

      I don't and won't agree. In the last 10 years I've gotten rid of 'services' that you have to pay for in perpetuity because they never pay for themselves. Owning your own stuff is always better and I'm not drinking their Kool-aid -- and I'm far from alone in feeling this way about this subject. You're being taken for fools.

    28. Re:The basic package is $9.99 a month. by h4ck7h3p14n37 · · Score: 1

      Does Pandora even allow you to choose what you listen to? I tried it out back around 2008 and from what I remember you couldn't select songs and you could only skip tracks a certain number of times per hour.

      My car does have the required hardware for satellite radio, but I don't see the point when I can download music to my phone. Plus my car has an in-dash music server. I don't listen to any live broadcasts since they had ads.

    29. Re:The basic package is $9.99 a month. by gnick · · Score: 1

      Does Pandora even allow you to choose what you listen to? ...I remember you couldn't select songs and you could only skip tracks a certain number of times per hour.

      You can certainly tune your different stations by Liking/Disliking songs or picking artists. The station I listen to most started with Pick Floyd, the Grateful Dead, and R.E.M. and has changed shape quite a bit with 206 likes & 44 dislikes. It knows me very well at this point. Significant Floyd & Dead, lotsa classic rock, and just the right amount of metal. "Dogs" is on right now and that's just super.

      On Pandora's free tier, you can't select songs, have limited skips, and hear ads. On the $5 tier, like I'm on, you get unlimited skips, no ads, but still can't select a specific song unless you're replaying something recent. On the $10 tier you can pick specific songs. I don't know how extensive their library is.

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    30. Re:The basic package is $9.99 a month. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      s/Pick/Pink

    31. Re:The basic package is $9.99 a month. by boundandgaggedwomen · · Score: 1

      And here lies the problem. If I can subscribe to Netflix and watch TV shows and movies for less than $10 per month, then I want to pay less than Netflix to listen to music.

      At $5 per month I'd start to think about it. At $3 per month I wouldn't even think about it and just subscribe.

      $3.00 is what I pay for commercial free Pandora.

    32. Re:The basic package is $9.99 a month. by boundandgaggedwomen · · Score: 1

      Support FM broadcast radio which has always been free (and I don't want to hear anyone say "oh but it's not free there are commercials!", stop whining and turn down the damned volume or switch to another station if you can't handle it).

      Problem is that all the stations seem to go to commercial at the same time. I'm not willing to listen to 20-30 minutes of commercials an hour on FM radio. I quit listening in 2002 and have no plans to ever listen again. The few times I have had to (rental car) I had to turn it off. The commercial load is just ridiculous.

      I'm afraid I agree. Radio FM and AM is just way too many commercials. Thats why I got XM radio.

    33. Re:The basic package is $9.99 a month. by youngone · · Score: 1

      Problem is that all the stations seem to go to commercial at the same time.

      That's by design. I live in a city with two corporate radio owners, (you probably do too) who each own at least one of each type of station ( classic rock, hip-hop, easy listening etc) which means they are pretty much carbon copies of each other.
      They are also competing in the same advertising market, so having all the stations go to advertising at the same time will be a selling point to their customers.
      My personal view is that commercial radio is a pretty good deal for the listener, as long as there is a station that plays music you like.

      Here I am however listening to a non-commercial classical station. Just heard some bassoon piece that was just great.

    34. Re:The basic package is $9.99 a month. by TheFakeTimCook · · Score: 1

      You again? Oh, someone mentioned Apple and you're here to tell everyone how great M4A is and how the DRM in it isn't a lock-in. Let me know when you pull the real Tim Cook's dick uot of your shill mouth. Or better yet, don't.

      Or you could just act like an adult, and simply ignore me.

    35. Re:The basic package is $9.99 a month. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I don't know if you'll see this (I'm the AC from earlier), but based on your usage description I think you have a ways to go before you burn out on Pandora. I was at something like 80 stations and over 10,000 likes when I decided to try something else.

      They do have a lot of great live stuff, plenty of Grateful Dead and Pink Floyd indeed.

      I've just gotten hooked on constant exposure to new albums lately-- there is probably more stuff out there that I'd love than I could hear in a lifetime, and I suddenly have an urge to churn through as much of it as I can. I know I'll still come back to my favorites from time to time, though.

    36. Re:The basic package is $9.99 a month. by gnick · · Score: 1

      Thanks for the sense of scope. I only have 3 stations I use regularly ("80's Pop" as my morning alarm, "Rock and/or Roll" which is my main, and "Metal" for when it's time for metal.) Marley's singing "Could You Be Loved" right now. I have maybe a half-dozen more that haven't been played in months. "Rock and/or Roll" has the most reviews by far with 250. It'll take some dedication to get to 10,000.

      I've just gotten hooked on...new albums...urge to churn through as much of it as I can.

      Different needs. Lately I've been hooked on live Dead. It's been some time since the Dead recorded. I've got about 270 hours of my favorite music on mp3. Very little of that is newer than Y2K and most of it's pre-1980. I hear some new stuff over satellite during my 30 min/weekday commute or tooling around town, but not much grabs my interest. The covers are killing me. I've recently heard covers of "Behind Blue Eyes," "Money," and "Zombie" that are just terrible. Seether's "Careless Whisper" and Disturbed's "Land of Confusion" were OK, but why in the hell would you fuck with "Money"??

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    37. Re:The basic package is $9.99 a month. by DontBeAMoran · · Score: 1

      You seem under the impression that AAC, which was developed 21 years ago by Bell Labs, Fraunhofer Institute, Dolby Labs, Sony and Nokia, is somehow an Apple-only thing.

      You also seem under the impression that Apple still uses DRM on their audio files, which they stopped doing at the end of march 2009. That's nine years ago.

      I got nothing against people who are critical toward companies but you should at least be angry about something that's actually true.

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    38. Re:The basic package is $9.99 a month. by DontBeAMoran · · Score: 1

      I never subscribed to iTunes match. Apple simply stopped DRM'ing the iTunes Store music files in 2009, while also increasing the bitrate from 128kbps to 256kbps.

      Now, are the files from Apple Music (steaming, monthly fee) DRM'ed or not? Maybe, but I have no idea since I only buy tunes/albums from iTunes.

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    39. Re:The basic package is $9.99 a month. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Spotify Student is $5 and comes with a free Hulu subscription. They need to expand the subscription to normal accounts.

  2. So /. just pushes press releases now? by RevDobbs · · Score: 1, Informative

    This is hardly "news", isn't for "nerds", and doesn't "matter". Slow news day, eh?

    1. Re:So /. just pushes press releases now? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      This is hardly "news", isn't for "nerds", and doesn't "matter". Slow news day, eh?

      But, honestly, your uid is low enough that you know that this has been the case for a very long time.

    2. Re:So /. just pushes press releases now? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      Every single fucking article, there's some idiot that says "This is not news for nerds or stuff that matters." Great. Ignore it then. Do you go to Youtube and say, "This video was a waste of time every time I watched it"?

    3. Re:So /. just pushes press releases now? by RevDobbs · · Score: 1

      If it hit one of the three I would understand; but this reads as a press release (not news, does not matter) for a company that is not of particular interest to nerds.

  3. Fix the bugs by robkeeney · · Score: 2

    It would help a lot if they'd fix the bugs in the player. I'm not going to pay anything for a buggy app. Also, they need to do a much better job differentiating artists with the same name.

    1. Re:Fix the bugs by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Are there competing apps, or does the service require that you use theirs and only theirs? If it's nonstandard (like Netflix) so that you can't use your own app, then that would explain why it would be so buggy: no incentive to fix it. That would also be a reason to not take the service seriously.

  4. Still not worth it by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    When I can use my unlimited data plan on my mobile whilst in the car and stream any number of curated YouTube playlists. Cost? Free!

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  6. How about they lower the prices? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    If they keep giving stuff to people who don't want to purchase a sub, why would I continue paying the same price? I had an active subscription because the free version was annoying and quite limited, but if they remove those limitations what's the incentive to keep paying?

    I just cancelled it, won't re-sub until they explain to me why I now pay the same price for less stuff. (less means that some of stuff I paid money for will now be included for free, so I'm actually paying for "less")

  7. Not after they ruined the web player by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

    I was thinking about subscribing, then they ruined the web player and removed most of its functionality.

  8. Do they have all the content by DarkRookie · · Score: 1

    Unless they have a complete library of music and TV, its still a bad deal.
    And they wonder why people keep pirating things.

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    1. Re: Do they have all the content by denis.goddard · · Score: 1

      I have had Amazon Prime for years; just the other day I tried installing the streaming Amazon Music app which apparently Iâ(TM)m already paying for. The selection was pathetic, less than 20-30 songs per genre. There was no useful ability to find music âoesimilar toâ what I liked. I uninstalled the app within 12 hours of installing it. Useless even if it were free.

    2. Re:Do they have all the content by CastrTroy · · Score: 1

      They are about as close as you can get to having all the content. The only music that I've found they don't have is by a select few artists who specifically don't want to be on streaming platforms, and some movie soundtracks where they probably didn't license the music properly. They have a very good selection. It's a lot more comprehensive then what Netflix is offering.

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  9. I would pay by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    The paid version accounts for less than half of Spotify's customer base, but generated about 90 percent of its 4.09 billion euros in 2017 revenue.

    Paying customers amounting to close to half is a pretty good ratio in software, they aren't going to be able to increase that by much. I guess they realized that trying to annoy users into paying just drives them away. Now I would be willing to pay if Spotify also served as a store, that is if it allowed me to purchase albums/songs and then be able to listen to them without ads interrupting it, and save them to drive so that it can be played offline by Spotify or any other music player. From what I've heard Spotify is experimenting with features like that, but in an example of record labels shooting themselves in the foot, they are only allowed to offer that feature in a select few countries.

    1. Re:I would pay by TheFakeTimCook · · Score: 1

      The paid version accounts for less than half of Spotify's customer base, but generated about 90 percent of its 4.09 billion euros in 2017 revenue.

      Paying customers amounting to close to half is a pretty good ratio in software, they aren't going to be able to increase that by much. I guess they realized that trying to annoy users into paying just drives them away. Now I would be willing to pay if Spotify also served as a store, that is if it allowed me to purchase albums/songs and then be able to listen to them without ads interrupting it, and save them to drive so that it can be played offline by Spotify or any other music player. From what I've heard Spotify is experimenting with features like that, but in an example of record labels shooting themselves in the foot, they are only allowed to offer that feature in a select few countries.

      Today's your lucky day!

      Apple Music does all that, and more!

      1. Huge Library, including some Exclusives.

      2. Listen to almost all of the entire iTunes Library for $9.99/mo.

      3. Music Videos now Included for the same price.

      4. No commercials, period!

      5. Several genre-specific Curated "Stations" available.

      6. Extras, such as Artist Info, and other things the kids seem to want. ;-)

      Available on all Platforms!

  10. No thanks ... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

    I have invested in quite a large CD collection (which I keep adding to), which I've ripped to MP3.

    It's mine. I don't need to pay data plan rates to stream it, I don't need to be dependent on someone to keep giving me music, I don't get ads, nobody gets to have analytics against what I like ... my relationship to the music publishers is "one and done", and then they can go fuck themselves.

    The artists get paid when I buy the album, and then the relationship is between me and my music collection. And that's none of their business.

    Subscription services? No thanks, not interested.

    And, if you don't think Spotify is spying on you as much as Facebook, you're an idiot. All of these 'free' services are, and I expect the paid services are as well. Because collecting your data is where the real money is.

  11. I think they're in a lot of trouble by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Spotify needs to attract large numbers of new listeners

    I have heard of Spotify for many years, but every time I forget and someone mentions it again, and I go to look at what it is, I laugh. Turns out, it's just another proprietary streaming service.

    I realize that proprietary streaming services are good enough for some kinds of people, but to think it would have broad appeal (or even acceptability) is a mistake. The people who are willing to tolerate such a thing, are probably already using it. If I worked at Spotify and I were tasked with "attracting large numbers of new listeners" I would be terrified and already looking for another job,

    And if any friend of mine were a Spotify investor and said they were told the customer base would grow, I would suggest to them that they had been defrauded. I'm not saying the service can't have customers, but what reason is there to suspect, that people who are getting by in other ways (e.g. msuic purchases) are suddenly going to be willing to settle for less?

  12. New Software First, PLEASE. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Rewrite the entire application. Start by adding SIMPLE FILTERS and views, so I can sort by rock, and the year the album was released. SEESH!

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  16. Maybe they could work on fixing the library size by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    10,000 items? Fucking ridiculous. It's just a list of pointers.

    https://community.spotify.com/t5/Live-Ideas/Increase-maximum-songs-allowed-in-quot-Your-Music-quot/idi-p/733759

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