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Facebook Must Face Class-Action Lawsuit Over Facial Recognition, Says Judge (kfgo.com)

U.S. District Judge James Donato ruled on Monday that Facebook must face a class-action lawsuit alleging that the social network unlawfully used a facial recognition process on photos without user permission. Donato ruled that a class-action was the most efficient way to resolve the dispute over facial templates. KFGO reports: Facebook said it was reviewing the ruling. "We continue to believe the case has no merit and will defend ourselves vigorously," the company said in a statement. Lawyers for the plaintiffs could not immediately be reached for comment. Facebook users sued in 2015, alleging violations of an Illinois state law about the privacy of biometric information. The class will consist of Facebook users in Illinois for whom Facebook created and stored facial recognition algorithms after June 7, 2011, Donato ruled. That is the date when Facebook launched "Tag Suggestions," a feature that suggests people to tag after a Facebook user uploads a photo. In the U.S. court system, certification of a class is typically a major hurdle that plaintiffs in proposed class actions need to overcome before reaching a possible settlement or trial.

79 comments

  1. Good by Aero77 · · Score: 4, Funny

    I look forward to my free years' worth of Facebook Premium (tm) as compensation. (/s)

    1. Re:Good by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      You're in luck!!! Facebook Premium includes access to the facial recognition features!!

    2. Re:Good by rtb61 · · Score: 1

      I look forward to thousands of dollars, as a non Facebook member if they used facial recognition on me in other peoples photos and recorded it in a database about me. I think somewhere between fifty thousand and one hundred thousand dollars should be appropriate in punitive damages (punitive being punishment, not actual damages, not a member, no financial transactions, no data record allowed). The class action to spread from one country to another like a bush fire, and Facebook all burned down. Some countries allow perception of psychological harm in civil suits and invading someone's privacy, seeking to manipulate them, is quite psychologically damaging.

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    3. Re:Good by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      It is perfectly legal for me to look at a photo and recognize the people in the photo from my memory.

      Why should it be illegal for the same thing to be done "on a computer"?

      Are you intentionally being a dense idiot or are you really that stupid?

    4. Re:Good by ShanghaiBill · · Score: 1, Interesting

      I look forward to thousands of dollars, as a non Facebook member if they used facial recognition on me in other peoples photos and recorded it in a database about me.

      If you didn't take the photos, then you have no copyright over them, and no say in what is done with them.

      What law do you think Facebook is violating?

      The plaintiffs are trying to use an Illinois state law on biometrics, but that is a real stretch, and even if they win, the ruling may only apply if the processing or storage is done in Illinois, which is unlikely.

    5. Re:Good by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Facebook should have just airbrushed the photographs of peoples face who hadn't given permission to have their pictures online or even with a facebook account. With modern AI technology, this could easily be done.

    6. Re:Good by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      recorded it in a database about me.

      Quoted the relevant part for you. At least in EU, it is very simple - you do not collect personally identifiable information about anyone without his/her permission.

    7. Re:Good by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      In the EU it is also not allowed to store information about anyone. Yes I removed the part of permission. Because a lot of information you are not allowed to store even if you ask permission.

    8. Re:Good by Khyber · · Score: 1

      "If you didn't take the photos, then you have no copyright over them, and no say in what is done with them."

      Did they sign a model release?

      Do you even basic photography law?

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    9. Re:Good by q_e_t · · Score: 1

      Facebook didn't collect the information.

      If there is metadata that wasn't in the original, how did the photographer do it?

    10. Re:Good by q_e_t · · Score: 1

      As I understand it the objection is not that the images were uploaded (you'd have no defence in the USA or EU over that, if you were out in public, and if it was a private photo, possibly only against the uploader), but the creation of new metadata.

    11. Re:Good by ShanghaiBill · · Score: 1

      Did they sign a model release?

      A model release is needed for commercial use of your likeness, not running an algorithm on the pixel data.

    12. Re:Good by ShanghaiBill · · Score: 2

      ... but the creation of new metadata.

      So there are criminal algorithms? I realize that we are all supposed to hate Facebook, so everyone is cheering for the plaintiffs, but is it really a good idea for particular matrix operations on an array of pixels to be illegal?

      If the photo is online, then the "identifiable information" is already public.

    13. Re:Good by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      According to Fakebook's TOS, they own the rights to it, and so by the responsibility to act legally. They gonna pay.

    14. Re:Good by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Fakebook IS making commercial use of the data.

    15. Re:Good by jargonburn · · Score: 1

      I look forward to my free years' worth of Facebook Premium (tm) as compensation. (/s)

      That's a strange way to write "free 60 day subscription followed by an opt-out monthly subscription".

    16. Re:Good by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Facebook didn't collect the information.

      Yes they did. As you yourself said, there were a number of pixels. Facebook interpreted them and extracted information on what people are in them.

      The photographer did that.

      No, the photographer uploaded photographs, possibly not knowing that Facebook would use his/hers photographs to identify the people in them. And the people in those photographs most likely never knew that those photos would be used to identify them and link together them with their Facebook profiles.

      But either way, Facebook didn't take the photos. They just ran an algorithm on the pixels. Are algorithms illegal?

      Don't be daft! Did anyone claim algorithms themselves are illegal?

      But gathering information on people without their consent may be illegal, and you know what? That is what they intend the court to find out. Just because you use an algorithm instead of doing it manually doesn't change much for the illegal part. In fact, some might consider it to be a worse offense since it is being done on a bigger scale.

    17. Re:Good by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      It's about who is the data controller. If I upload an image, I am the controller. If you then run an algorithm on that and create new data, you are the controller of that data. If T&Cs and local laws permit this for the operation of the service, it's fine. But there may be legal grey areas in some locations. This isn't necessarily FB's fault as much as the legal framework may not be clear.

    18. Re:Good by ShanghaiBill · · Score: 1

      Fakebook IS making commercial use of the data.

      The lawsuit is not questioning Facebook's right to display the images, and running an algorithm on pixels is not a form of commercial use that requires a model release.

    19. Re:Good by Rockoon · · Score: 2

      The lawsuit is not questioning Facebook's right to display the images

      Exactly. The lawsuit is questioning facebooks commercial use of the "biometric" (*) information gathered from the images.

      (*) Facial geometry sold for use in commercial facial recognition applications.

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    20. Re:Good by Opportunist · · Score: 1

      My right to my picture. Yes, such a thing exists in European law: Your face is yours, and only yours, and anyone wanting to take a picture of it needs your permission to do so. There are some exceptions like for celebrities, or when the picture taken is about, say, a building and you just happen to be in the picture and not in focus, but in general, if you want to do ANYTHING with a picture that has me on it, you need my ok.

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    21. Re:Good by Opportunist · · Score: 1

      If you're running the algorithm on data you have no right to run it on, yes.

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    22. Re:Good by Opportunist · · Score: 1

      And if music is for sale, it's already public too. You think the RIAA thinks it's ok if I start using it in the way I want to?

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    23. Re:Good by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Oh I see you are new to ShanghaiBill's oeuvre. He plays the dense idiot so well we think he's made of neutronium.

    24. Re:Good by AmiMoJo · · Score: 3, Insightful

      The EU has harmonized rules for personal data protection, which include a prohibition on the collection of biometric data without explicit permission from the subject. That includes facial recognition data.

      So yes, in this case running that algorithm without the subject's permission is illegal.

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    25. Re: Good by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Sounds like a solid case, where's the EU lawsuit?

    26. Re:Good by ShanghaiBill · · Score: 1

      If you're running the algorithm on data you have no right to run it on, yes.

      Who has the right to grant those rights? According to the plaintiffs, it is not the person who took the photograph and thus owns the copyright, but the person displayed in the image.

    27. Re:Good by ShanghaiBill · · Score: 1

      Exactly. The lawsuit is questioning facebooks commercial use of the "biometric" (*) information gathered from the images.

      Nope. The plaintiffs' case is based on an Illinois law that says nothing about "commercial use".

    28. Re:Good by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      He really is that stupid. You new here?

    29. Re:Good by ShanghaiBill · · Score: 1

      Yes, such a thing exists in European law: Your face is yours, and only yours, and anyone wanting to take a picture of it needs your permission to do so.

      Bullcrap. There is no such "European law". There are laws in specific EU countries, but they vary. In general, you can photograph people in public without their explicit consent.

      if you want to do ANYTHING with a picture that has me on it, you need my ok.

      More bullcrap. If I take your photo legally, there is no European law prohibiting modification, with a few narrow exceptions such as pornography.

    30. Re:Good by Ol+Olsoc · · Score: 2

      Fakebook IS making commercial use of the data.

      The lawsuit is not questioning Facebook's right to display the images, and running an algorithm on pixels is not a form of commercial use that requires a model release.

      We're getting to broad brushing some stuff about model releases here.In a public place, a person has no particular privacy. As well if the image was newsworthy.

      Even then, the law is not absolute. If say an attractive woman model is shown sitting at a bar with a bottle of liquor, and used in an advertisement for that liquor, a standard model release is sufficient. If someone uses that same photo in an article about a troubling rise in alcoholic women, or about prostitutes working in bars, the photographer darn well better have had that mentioned in the model release.

      While some releases declare "any and all uses", that could become a bit vague, and a judge will almost certainly allow a trial to go forward.

      Other possibilities are if someone posts an image of people in a private domicile. Private places have private protections.

      And a bar is also private property.

      To top it all off, model releases can be held null and void if there is no consideration given, ie money passes hands. So if I have been in a situation where I've used models either at work or a part time video/photo/animation business of mine, they'd get at least 5 dollars. Of course usually much more.

      So whether this particular case is involved with copyright, Facebook is facing some issues of privacy if images from a private place are posted. And the path stops at where and who makes the money. A friend might have posted the pictures, so discouraged, but no legal harm. But the property owner will have a case. And if Facebook monetizes a copyrighted image, they owe the copyright holder.

      The issue was dealt with during the Google Glass saga, where bar owners asserted their private property privacy rights to tell the Glassholes that they could not stream video in their establishments. IANAL, but I've dealt with this issue over the years.

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    31. Re:Good by Ol+Olsoc · · Score: 1

      My right to my picture. Yes, such a thing exists in European law: Your face is yours, and only yours, and anyone wanting to take a picture of it needs your permission to do so. There are some exceptions like for celebrities, or when the picture taken is about, say, a building and you just happen to be in the picture and not in focus, but in general, if you want to do ANYTHING with a picture that has me on it, you need my ok.

      There are exceptions at least here in the US. Out n the streets, or newsworthy events, and you don't have much say.

      Am I to take it however, that in Europe pictures of say a crowd at a football game or Festival are illegal?

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    32. Re:Good by Anne+Thwacks · · Score: 2
      There is no such "European law".

      Slightly true.

      The general process is that there is a "European directive" - which is essentially guidance as to what each European country should enact, and then they do so, in line with local practicality and custom, at the pace they are comfortable with.

      However, in the case of data protection, the GDPR (Google is your fiend), will apply from 25 May 2018*, all across Europe, including the UK, even after Brexit. Penalties are EUR25Million or 4% of your global turnover. Hopefully, per offence of face recognition of non-subscribers. I do not doubt that a great many European citizens are campaigning at this minute for jail sentences for Zuk and the like, but the legal system is happy to take payment by plastic.

      There is no question whatsoever that facial recognition of non-subscribers is a very serious offence under the GDPR.

      It would most definitely require prior, informed consent, and registry with the Information Commissioner's Office before doing it, with a credible explanation of why you are doing it.Sure, you can take a photo of me in public without my consent. BUT if you publish it without my permission, I have the right to sue your balls off, and if you have any money, I am sure I can find a lawyer willing to do it for "no win-no fee".

      Believe me, that is preferable to a visit from my friends with big sticks and angry rottweilers, or nuking from high orbit. So: stay within the law, and be happy the law is created by sane people!

      * It applies to anyone in the EU collecting data, or anyone wherever, collecting data on live people in the EU, some countries may grant exemptions for dead people if the feel so inclined. The situation regarding Zombies is still TBD. This was announced two years ago, so you have had time to find out.

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    33. Re: Good by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      The guy spent $10k on a bride from china. Then moved to China!!!

      He is the only person in human history to be pussy whipped by a mail order bride. He follows her around like a lost puppy.

      Don't trust anything the guy says. Everyone on slashdot just laughs at him.

  2. Good. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Anything to slow down or hinder the evil that is Facebook is great.

  3. Don't forget the missing opt-out option by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Maybe it was just a bug on my smartphone, but when I was given the screen about they are gonna use facial recognition and I could opt out, the opt-out link didn't work. When I went into the options myself I found it enabled and greyed out. A couple weeks later it was enabled and not greyed out, then I was able to disable it.

    1. Re:Don't forget the missing opt-out option by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      And how is one to even opt out for those who did not ever sign up?

      I am not FB user. How then to avoid "shadow profile"?

    2. Re:Don't forget the missing opt-out option by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      You are not trying hard enough.

      Or in the parlance of the geek vernacular, the only way to win is not to play.

      For those in Rio Linda. Stay off the internet.

      If you do not understand that, just go back to watching YouTube.

    3. Re:Don't forget the missing opt-out option by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      You are not trying hard enough.

      Or in the parlance of the geek vernacular, the only way to win is not to play.

      For those in Rio Linda. Stay off the internet.

      Eh... You know that you can be a person that has never used the internet ever, yet people may take photographs of you and uploading them to Facebook. If they just tag you in one of them, photographs may then be connected to you.

      So how hard should you try? Not allowing people to take photographs of you at all?

      Stay off the internet.

      If you do not understand that, just go back to watching YouTube.

      I suppose this is to be some kind of wildly botched attempt at bad sarcasm? Or perhaps you have found the holy grail –how to watch YouTube without using the Internet? <sarcasm> <gasp> Please master, tell us how to do it!</scarcasm>

    4. Re:Don't forget the missing opt-out option by Anne+Thwacks · · Score: 1
      How then to avoid "shadow profile"?

      Nuke from high orbit - its the only way to be sure.

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    5. Re: Don't forget the missing opt-out option by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Fuckin' A.

  4. yay, free money by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Let's do it! Can't wait for my $0.16 settlement check!

    1. Re: yay, free money by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Do it for the lawyers, mkay? They'll make millions

  5. Bad. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    If this is the kind of shoddy treatment companies can now expect in this country then they should move overseas to where they, their jobs and their money are welcome.

    1. Re: Bad. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      If these companies are the best we can do, then good riddance.

    2. Re:Bad. by nospam007 · · Score: 0

      "If this is the kind of shoddy treatment companies can now expect in this country ..."

      It's the kind of shoddy laws that old white men are creating, without any clue about modern life.

    3. Re:Bad. by Opportunist · · Score: 1

      Could they also be pissed enough to forbid accessing them from here?

      Pretty please?

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    4. Re: Bad. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      found the democrat, don't care about other peoples jobs (especially in non-coast places) just so long as his SJW nazi politics is adhered to

    5. Re:Bad. by Anne+Thwacks · · Score: 1
      If this is the kind of shoddy treatment companies can now expect in this country then they should move overseas to where they will get the piss knocked out of them in short order.

      Their behaviour is completely unacceptable in any reasonable part of the world, and face recognition of people who are not even users falls into the sort of category associated with real WW2 Nazis.

      Lets be reasonable here. its not the case that has no merit - its Facebook that has no merit.

      When it comes to court, I hope they are found to lack standing, and also be deprived of the right to sit and lie down too.

      Long jail sentences are required to set a good example.

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    6. Re: Bad. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      LOLOLOLOLOL.

      And you wonder why we call the far right fucking idiots. Because they don't know how to parse information. They see what they want to see.

  6. FB going sour on folks? by bogaboga · · Score: 1

    Am I alone? Facebook is starting to get attributes of a product, once desirable, that is now really beginning to go bad.

    Some would read this as "getting rotten."

  7. Does ANYONE think this lawsuit is a solution? by shanen · · Score: 1

    I'm certainly willing to stipulate that Facebook has many gigantic problems. I would even say that my images, including my face, are part of my personal information that is being horrendously abused by Facebook. However, it is obvious to me that the lawyers are more concerned with creating new problems than solving anything.

    My suggestion for a solution approach would be a rather different: A non-adversarial business model for Facebook. Rather than pitting us against the advertisers, which guarantees the advertisers are going to win because it's their money, a better system (which Facebook has no potential of becoming, if you ask me) would focus on cost recovery for actual services rendered. Yeah, I'm calling TANSTAAFL on Facebook and saying we should be paying for the real costs of the services we actually want to use. Of course we want to pay as little as possible, but we're paying anyway, even though Facebook doesn't show us any of the real bills and invoices. ADSAuPR, atAJG.

    By the way, I think this approach could in theory be added as an extension to an advertiser-funded model. The reason Facebook can never do it is because they have become a corporate cancer, and cost-recovery is fundamentally opposed to profit maximization. Not acceptable to the cancer to leave those chips on the table because profit is NEVER sufficiently maximized. Or to put it in religious terms:

    There is no gawd but profit, and Facebook wants to be the #1 prophet!

    Oh yeah. About the face problem. It's okay if people want to annotate pictures with PRIVATE notes such as thinking an image is me, but it is NOT okay to share those notes with the world unless I quite explicitly agree to the sharing. In the wrinkled middle ground, I might (or might not) even be willing to confirm that a face annotated in private notes is mine, but that is NOT to say I would agree to making those notes PUBLIC without telling me. That's just the tip of the solution approach, but ADSAuPR, atAJG. (Twice in one post? Looks bad, folks.)

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    1. Re: Does ANYONE think this lawsuit is a solution? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Except images containing you are not necessarily yours. They are legally property of the person that took the picture. By uploading an image they owned the owner agreed to have the facial recognition algorithm to be run on it. Unless you are he owner of the image and didnâ(TM)t agree I donâ(TM)t see how youâ(TM)re involved.

    2. Re:Does ANYONE think this lawsuit is a solution? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Then don't upload the pictures? I never understood the malignant narcissism required to think that other people want to see you?

    3. Re: Does ANYONE think this lawsuit is a solution? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      This is a millennial problem - co-opting other people's pictures (or thoughts, or videos, or anything else you can think of that can be co-opted) without a thought and posting them without any attribution whatsoever. The rest of us are already familiar with copyright and ownership concerns. You did not 'discover' any of that, and it is one of the many reasons people older than you have pulled out all of their hair. Alas, Facebook's (and by extension, Instagram's) TOS forces users to relinquish certain rights to what they post, or we could all sue all of you, too.

    4. Re:Does ANYONE think this lawsuit is a solution? by q_e_t · · Score: 1

      The issue is being tagged in pictures taken by others, I thought.

    5. Re:Does ANYONE think this lawsuit is a solution? by Opportunist · · Score: 2

      It isn't. But it's one more nail in the coffin, I hope.

      You won't convince people to ditch something harmful if you have one huge story about how it fucks up lives. But if you keep the stories coming and if you can give them something else to read about it every day, eventually they'll catch on.

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    6. Re: Does ANYONE think this lawsuit is a solution? by tsqr · · Score: 1

      Except images containing you are not necessarily yours. They are legally property of the person that took the picture. By uploading an image they owned the owner agreed to have the facial recognition algorithm to be run on it.

      ...says the AC who's never actually looked at the Facial Recognition permission setting in Facebook:
      Face Recognition
      Do you want Facebook to be able to recognize you in photos and videos?

      Note that it doesn't say, "Do you want Facebook to be able to recognize anyone in the photos and videos posted by you", or, "Do you want Facebook to be able to recognize you in the photos and videos posted by you".

    7. Re:Does ANYONE think this lawsuit is a solution? by tsqr · · Score: 1

      The issue is being tagged in pictures taken by others, I thought.

      Not tagging; face recognition, which is not the same thing. You can't stop anyone from tagging you, but as noted upthread, if you deny Face Recognition permission, they say they won't run their recognition algorithm on you, regardless of who posts your picture.

  8. Dear Facebook... by OppMan29 · · Score: 1

    Welcome to the Beginning of the END..... hopefully...

    1. Re:Dear Facebook... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I wish it were true. One would hope that the final result be the forced deletion of Facebook's databases and a permanent ban on social networks. Unfortunately Big Money says otherwise.

    2. Re:Dear Facebook... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I understand why a ban on social networks is an attractive idea on Slashdot, the antisocial media site.
      My siblings, cousins, cow-orkers, and even my mom are very happy with Facebook. They see facial recognition as an exciting breakthrough that will save them time and effort.

    3. Re:Dear Facebook... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      They see facial recognition as an exciting breakthrough that will save them time and effort.

      Time and effort from what? Typing in a few names? Are we that fucking lazy now?

  9. FB Great Idea by wolfheart111 · · Score: 1

    in a perfect world :)

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  10. Facebook is a publicity service by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

    ... to tag after a Facebook user uploads a photo ...

    As long as there's been cameras, there's been the thorny issue of owning the brand/copyright versus owning the image. This is why all social networks don't touch copyright and their ownership of the upload is non-exclusive.

    Facebook is a publicity service, helping people find you. It's why Facebook hides and repeatedly resets/deletes privacy settings; it is contrary to the point of the service; and thus their profits. This is a problem when users think they can have privacy: In fact, any claim by Facebook offering privacy is a blatant act of fraud. This is a problem when users load images of other people onto Facebook; those people have been robbed of privacy and anonymity. The best example is the wall of (mostly female) nudie photos on Facebook and Tumblr. I like viewing them but I wonder how many women asked, agreed or knew their bodies would be shown to the world? For most women, they're another pair of tits in crowd, so it doesn't matter. For some women, such as Pamela Anderson, Paris Hilton and Jennifer Lawrence, it's a huge invasion of privacy. If we want privacy for all, we need to protect the privacy of celebrities first.

  11. a friend in foe by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Atleast facebook recognized my face. In bad times, even friends and relatives don't.

    (sloppy pun intended)

    1. Re:a friend in foe by wolfheart111 · · Score: 1

      And the warm greeting when I log in... you dont get that from regular people. :(

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    2. Re:a friend in foe by Opportunist · · Score: 1

      It's kinda sad when the only sweet words you get to hear is from a stalker who wants to sell you to the highest bidder.

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  12. So we can add the govt to this case? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Unwilling there to

  13. Doesn't google do face recognition on your photo by goombah99 · · Score: 1

    Is this the difference between doing it on the server: facebook, google, and on your own computer iTunes?

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  14. How can this possibly be illegal? by mi · · Score: 1

    If you are allowed to recognize people on a photo someone shows you — without the pictured people's permission — how can it possibly be illegal for Facebook or anyone else to do that?

    That said, a class-action lawsuit may, indeed, be the best way to solve this question...

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    1. Re:How can this possibly be illegal? by Anne+Thwacks · · Score: 1
      a class-action lawsuit may, indeed, be the best way to solve this question...

      It may be a way to solve the question, I am petty sure nuking from high orbit is a better one.

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    2. Re:How can this possibly be illegal? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      The problem is not the facial recognition.
      The problem is the database of names that Facebook is going to monetise, many of those people have, like me, consciously avoided Facebook like the plague it is and now we became without our permission part of their Matrix.

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    3. Re:How can this possibly be illegal? by mi · · Score: 1

      The problem is the database of names that Facebook is going to monetise, many of those people have, like me, consciously avoided Facebook

      And how is that illegal? If someone shows me your photo, and tells me the names of everyone pictured, why can't I "monetize" this knowledge?

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  15. google is being sued too. by goombah99 · · Score: 1

    Google is also being sued under the same illinois law. Apple is not. Presumably this is because with apple it's you that is doing it to your own photos So it's you that would be culpable for gathering biometrics without consent

    I wonder if this means you cant do any facial recognition research in Illinois? Sure there are face data banks but how do you know they are legal in Illinois.

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