Loud Sound From Fire Alarm System Shuts Down Nasdaq's Scandinavian Data Center (bleepingcomputer.com)
Catalin Cimpanu, writing for BleepingComputer: A loud sound emitted by a fire alarm system has destroyed the hard drives of a Swedish data center, downing Nasdaq operations across Northern Europe. The incident took place in the early hours of Wednesday, April 19, and was caused by a gas-based fire alarm system that are typically deployed in data centers because of their ability to put out fires without destroying non-burnt equipment. These systems work by releasing inert gas at high speeds, a mechanism usually accompanied by a loud whistle-like sound. With non-calibrated systems, this sound can get very loud, a big no-no in data centers, where loud sounds are known to affect performance, shut down, or even destroy hard drives.
>> this sound can get very loud, a big no-no
Jeezzez Crisco. What did we do now to get SlashDot editors talking down to us with one syllable at a time?
"caused by a gas-based fire alarm system that are typically deployed in data centers because of their ability to put out fires without destroying non-burnt equipment. [...] With non-calibrated systems, this sound can get very loud [and destroy-non burnt-equipment]"
...actually, that person may have zero job now.
You had one job! (Directed at both the system itself and whoever was supposed to be in charge of calibrating it.)
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There's a kernel of truth to this. I know a few guys who work for the NYSE, and it's the same there. One of them told me to watch a few particular derivatives before they take down the system and watch them after they bring the system back online. Three out of four times this is to prevent a catastrophe and had nothing to do with a true hardware/software failure. But it does keep a '29 stock market crash from happening.
I herd SSDs are silent and mostly immune to vibration.
How can you herd them if they are silent?
It's a fire SUPPRESSION system, not a fire ALARM system.
At least this time, it's the article (on Bleeping Computer) that is wrong, not the summary on /.
It's apparent the author of the article didn't bother to read the article (on Motherboard) that she cites about a similar incident in Romania at ING Bank. It clearly states that incident resulted from a "fire extinguishing test".
The sound BTW comes from the release of the gas, not some alarm. In both cases, the pressure was set too high. It was basically a - very loud - over 130db - hissing sound!
The second article cites a study about the effect of this sound done by Siemens. Siemens has a vested interest. I guess neither of these data centers were equipped with the Sinorix Silent Nozzle.
When my Ex-Wife let out loud, obnoxious sounds my hard drives didn't self-destruct. My mind did, but not my hard drives.
Harrison's Postulate - "For every action there is an equal and opposite criticism"
These sorts of systems, have been well known for ages now to be a high risk for damaging equipment, most of them release with such force that they can do a lot of harm. As a result, many data centers, and other similar businesses have moved away from them to avoid exactly this sort of incident. A popular alternative right now is water mist, despite what people immediately think, these have actually been proven to be safe around electronics when properly designed and deployed.
Another site without replication, redundancy and automatic failover, similar to when British Airways' entire computer system collapsed because of a power surge when someone turned it off and on again.
It's not possible to test all scenarios ("Right, now we're going to see how our network would cope if someone took an axe to that cabinet. Derek, when you're ready") but someone should have planned for a data centre failure. Is this lack of resilience common in big networks?
No seriously, I can't find the video atm but many years ago there was a guy from (Sun?) showing how susceptible they are to sound vibrations. His test literally was yelling at them while watching dtrace.
Update: Found it. Was Brendan Gregg - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tDacjrSCeq4
* (headphone warning)
Dunno if it's true or not, but I've always found it amusing nonetheless:
https://www.hactrn.net/sra/vaxen.html
Pro tip: fire alarms make noise, fire protection systems put out fires.... this was the latter. A clean agent release system.
Reporters and bloggers cannot even get the facts right let alone write at a higher level.
Fire alarms make noise to warn people.
Fire suppression systems extinguish fires.
Fire protection systems often incorporate suppression and alarm systems.
You herd them the usual way---with dogs. The dogs can see them and smell them, so they don't need to hear them.
From a decade ago: https://www.youtube.com/watch?...
It's here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?...
I guess I'll be wearing active hearing protection to the data center from now on, eh?
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"How can you herd them if they are silent?"
You're doing it wrong. You're supposed to cluster
Oh, wait...
deleting the extra space after periods so i can stay relevant, yeah.
This sounds like an Inergen type system... the two failings are the particulate matter it stirs up and the vibration caused by the sounds of a freight train rolling through...
https://youtu.be/yM80eBR_b2w
Most electronics use switching supplies for the base power rails. Switching supplies have capacitors, some of which may be charged and discharged at a frequency in the audible range. Those capacitors can be quite loud. You can even use them as speakers. Nowadays most switching supplies use higher frequencies to cut down on audible noise, but noisy caps are still a thing. Furthermore, there are almost always caps that smooth out the AC input. 50/60hz is audible, so those caps will always hum.
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I herd SSDs are silent and mostly immune to vibration.
How can you herd them if they are silent?
Just gather them up in a coral. A sheep dog can help with that.
A keep those doggies rolling. Rawhide!
Something's not quite right about that. For the year 2018, at least.
Eloi are stupid, throw morlocks at them!
I herd SSDs are silent and mostly immune to vibration.
How can you herd them if they are silent?
Just gather them up in a coral. A sheep dog can help with that.
That won't work either. All the coral is dying.
https://app.box.com/WitthoftResume Code: https://github.com/cellocgw
Allegedly (*) the same way you herd cats -- with great difficulty. =P
(*) I've never met anyone who has actually done (**) this yet everyone is magically an "armchar expert".
(**) I don't understand what the big deal is -- you just wait till everyone is hung and then string them along with food. How hard (***) could it be? :-)
(***) Famous last words.
Whoops, Freudian (?) slip.
s/hung/hungry
I herd SSDs are silent and mostly immune to vibration.
How can you herd them if they are silent?
Just gather them up in a coral. A sheep dog can help with that.
That won't work either. All the coral is dying.
Really? What color? Blue, I hope. I have a bolt of cotton cloth I'd like dyed blue.
How do I contact the coral?
A fire alarm system isn't designed to extinguish a fire, a suppression system is. I hate to be pedantic, but there is a difference. The device in your home that disturbs fajita night is an alarm system...
I guess I shouldn't burp near my NAS then
You jest, but, there's people who can burp at 100dB.
https://encrypted.google.com/s...
ie. This guy can burp at a heavy metal concert and the people around him will tell him to STFU because they can't hear the music for all the burping.
No sig today...
I meant 110dB, dammit.
No sig today...
Did anyone bother to check if there was an actual fire or are they too busy kvetching about the noise?
At a previous employer, we lost an entire row of servers in a DC after a water leak (somehow) triggered the suppression system. The 'explosion' was strong enough to knock the doors off cabinets, bend 2 cabinets, and cause a couple hundreds drives to be dead. Thankfully our service was spread out far enough to survive the loss of a row for a few week while we waited for all new disks to arrive from IBM.
The pictures were crazy, it looks like a bomb went off.
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