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Government Accidentally Releases Documents On 'Psycho-Electric' Weapons (popularmechanics.com)

schwit1 shares a report from Popular Mechanics: The government has all kinds of secrets, but only a true conspiracy theorist might suspect that "psycho-electric weapons" are one of them. So it's odd that MuckRock, a news organization that specializes in filing Freedom of Information Act (FOIA) requests with state and federal government bodies, received mysterious documents about mind control, seemingly by accident. Journalist Curtis Waltman was writing to the Washington State Fusion Center (WSFC), a joint operation between Washington State law enforcement and the federal government to request information about Antifa and white supremacist groups. He got responses to the questions he asked, but also a file titled "EM effects on human body.zip." At least some of the images appear to be part of an article in Nexus magazine describing a 1992 lawsuit brought by one John St. Clair Akewi against the NSA. Akewi claimed that the NSA had the "ability to assassinate U.S. citizens covertly or run covert psychological control operations to cause subjects to be diagnosed with ill mental health" and was documenting their alleged methods.

91 comments

  1. Cuba? by TJHook3r · · Score: 2

    Have they trialled this in any other countries, by chance?

    1. Re:Cuba? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Or by certain churches? The powerful magnets, they make you feel invisible presences.. ;)

    2. Re:Cuba? by rrohbeck · · Score: 2

      Several people have said that the "acoustic weapons" can't be acoustic but are probably electromagnetic, whether deliberate or accidental. They could be a side effect of listening devices or just a radar gone wild.

    3. Re:Cuba? by PolygamousRanchKid+ · · Score: 4, Interesting

      Have they trialed this in any other countries, by chance?

      The Cuba caused painful headaches. But what if such a system could also provide pleasure . . . ?

      I was reminded of an ancient post-apocalypse Science Fiction film titled Genesis II, staring ubiquitous, universal actor John Saxon.

      The folks in the future had cattle-prod sticks that could either cause pain or pleasure if you zapped someone with them.

      Hey, Taser . . . get your heads out of your asses, and produce a pleasure Taser!

      Such a device could be used to treat fentanyl addicts.

      . . . or folks will start killing each other for batteries for the sticks.

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      Schroedinger's Brexit: The UK is both in and out of the EU at the same time!
    4. Re:Cuba? by drinkypoo · · Score: 1

      I was reminded of an ancient post-apocalypse Science Fiction film titled Genesis II, staring ubiquitous, universal actor John Saxon.

      The folks in the future had cattle-prod sticks that could either cause pain or pleasure if you zapped someone with them.

      Yeah, they probably read about Larry Niven's Tasp in 1970 when Ringworld came out, unless they were actually familiar with his works prior (he didn't invent it for Ringworld.)

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      "You're right," Fisheye says. "I should have set it on 'whip' or 'chop.'"
    5. Re:Cuba? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      TFA mentions "forced orgasms"

    6. Re: Cuba? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Trailed, to snaggle toothed wanker!

    7. Re:Cuba? by mikael · · Score: 2

      The voice of God can be heard at 315.25MHz . One evangelist was caught out by investigators using a radio earpiece to let him know the names of people in the audience as he walked around. Claimed he was talking directly to God.

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    8. Re:Cuba? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Scientists engineered fruit flies to enjoy red light. Just imagine if there were some virus using CrispR that could transfer those genes into people.

    9. Re:Cuba? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      The new head of the NSA believes climate change is a hoax.

    10. Re:Cuba? by Jayfar · · Score: 1

      The new head of the NSA believes climate change is a hoax.

      *NASA

    11. Re:Cuba? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Peter Popoff? God is female? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IstaJHczjY4

    12. Re:Cuba? by mrclevesque · · Score: 1
    13. Re:Cuba? by dclydew · · Score: 1

      God is a crazy woman.
      http://www.principiadiscordia....

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      Get a life, not a lifestyle. - Hikem Bey
    14. Re: Cuba? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Trailed, to snaggle toothed wanker!

      "Heavens to Murgatroid!"

  2. Has the government denied it yet? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

    You know the rule: Not true until the US government denies it.

    1. Re:Has the government denied it yet? by blindseer · · Score: 1

      You know the rule: Not true until the US government denies it.

      Has the government denied global warming yet?

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      I am armed because I am free. I am free because I am armed.
    2. Re:Has the government denied it yet? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I am armed because I am a coward. I am a coward because I am armed.

      FTFY

    3. Re:Has the government denied it yet? by Zontar+The+Mindless · · Score: 2

      It's been trying like hell to do so, in case you've not noticed?

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      Il n'y a pas de Planet B.
    4. Re:Has the government denied it yet? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Zontar, no denying swedish women get raped by muslims as flimsy no balls eunuch swede not men in you let it happen doing nothing.

    5. Re:Has the government denied it yet? by rickyslashdot · · Score: 1

      DUH! Have you LISTENED to Trump about this - the HEAD of the US govt. I think headless would be a real a bonus in this situation.

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      redneck geek
  3. "Only a true conspiracy theorist" by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Interesting

    I think it's time to bury that anticonspiracy theorist mindset.

    Sure, there are theories out there, that are just nuts.

    But it always bothered me, that the pro-state/corporate nutters get to believe the most black-eyed kind of insane bullshit possible, and attack anyone who disagrees with the thought-terminating "conspiracy theorist" clichee, and have the audience on their side.
    At some point, the polarity does not matter. If you believe that the NSA are good guys and don't do all the psychopathic evil shit they can du with their huge budget, you're just as willfully ignorant and delusional and nuts than the time cube / flat earther / ... idiots.

    Oh, and does anyone here remember that the Snowden leaks detailed that the main strategy to bring down opposing voices/groups was to inject moles who act as agents provocateurs and discredit the group with their actions?
    E.g. take a good criticism, spice it up with insane theories, and post that shit

    1. Re:"Only a true conspiracy theorist" by Tablizer · · Score: 1

      Because it's hard to separate speculation from fact. Just because spooks can do something does not mean they are in a particular case.

      We hope our system of checks and balances prevents most misuse. There will always be bad apples, let's just keep them to a minimum.

    2. Re:"Only a true conspiracy theorist" by fazig · · Score: 5, Interesting

      It's not only that there are 'theories' out there that are just nuts. It's that most of them rely on non sequitur like circular logic or arguments from ignorance while riding a thin line of plausibility. For example when there's no evidence for something that doesn't make the absence of evidence evidence of a suppression of evidence.
      Yeah, yeah, I know that someone is probably going to throw that Carl Sagan quote my way that states "absence of evidence is not evidence of absence". I do agree with his statement, but you have to keep in mind that this does not override the principle of burden of proof. You make a claim that something exists and it's your job to prove that it exists, not the job of others to disprove that it exists.

      The thing to take away from here is that both state and private institutions will investigate any kind of shit that may give them an advantage if it works, whether it is rooted in hard science of science fiction/fantasy. However, whether or not they are successful proving the concept or furthermore are successful in developing an actual application is an entirely different story.
      For example NASA is also investigating warp drive technology. They don't make a big secret out of it since it's nothing as scary as possible mind control. That does not mean that you should to plan your next holiday trip to Barnard's Loop quite yet.

      That strategy Snowden detailed there has been used for a long time. Take the Cold War for example where you had both the US and the Soviet Union (mostly Russia) using that kind of tactics to control their own people and sow distrust among the enemy. And as far as I can see, this kind of information warfare has never stopped.


      So if you want to hear my conspiracy hypothesis here. We don't need something like acoustic or electromagnetic mind control technology. The human need for approval and the way this can be exploited through social media has already proven to be a very effective tool in modifying human behaviour to at least some degree. And the really scary part here is that most people seem do it not only voluntarily but are actually happy to do it (ignoring a correlation between social media use and mental health problems here for the moment). And here you probably also have heard that the Chinese are taking it a even a step further by introducing a social credit system, where the state rates the actions of their citizens.

    3. Re:"Only a true conspiracy theorist" by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      it's deliberate - merkins are engineered to be ignorant.

    4. Re:"Only a true conspiracy theorist" by rtb61 · · Score: 4, Insightful

      If the could, they would and that is just reality. Plenty of straight up psychopaths in the US government, getting the sexual jollies by torturing people, so if could do any of that stuff, they would not be waterboarding people, threatening to murder their children, beat them to death, shoved hoses up their anuses (although there is a likelihood they would do those things anyhow even when they have better methods for interrogation, just because they are sick bastards).

      Of course not being able to, is not the same as trying and they probably still are. They have no qualms about lying to the voters even legislating to allow it and that insane. Idiots even accept 'they had to lie to us for our own good'. They had not qualms about experimenting on citizens with chemical and biological weapons either, so you know if they could they would and they are still trying.

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    5. Re:"Only a true conspiracy theorist" by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      You're donwplaying the problems of conspiracy theorist, and by doing so, you're not really doing them a favour.

      You can be well-informed without being a conspiracy theorist. Conspiracy theorists are unable to suspend judgement and form beliefs on the basis of insufficient evidence They are also too selective and 'selective' sceptics - they are highly sceptic about competing explanations but not sceptic about their own conspiracy theories.

      It is very rare for a mentally sane person to become a real, opinionated conspiracy theorist. Most genuine conspiracy theorists suffer from serious schizophrenia, which unfortunately wrecks their lives in the long run. What's even worse, their conspiracy theories often prevent them from seeking treatment. Many also have more harmless problems such as financial ones and many of them are also in it for the money. Alex Jones is the best example, he's both mentally ill and in it for the money, and once you're in it for money, it's essentially impossible to quit. Not just conspiracy theorists have this problem, many 'esoterics'/New Age people have it, too. They don't really believe in the rubbish they're preaching but also don't know how return to a normal life and a normal job. They're living in their own subculture until at some point in their life they literally become unable to distinguish fantasy from reality.

      It's also easy to explain why there are so many conspiracy theorists in the US as opposed to Europe. The English book market is the biggest book market in the world, so even books about niche topics may allow you to make a living if you combine this income with giving talks and holding 'seminars'. In comparison, some prominent exceptions aside, a German, Swedish or Dutch conspiracy theorist will still need a daytime job. Moreover, mental healthcare is better in Europe.

    6. Re:"Only a true conspiracy theorist" by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Keeping bad apples to a minimum? Yeah, that won't work.

      Do you even know the idiom where "bad apples" came from? The whole, unredacted idiom? You obviously don't, so let me quote it for you:

      "A few bad apples spoils the whole bunch."

      You know what, try it yourself. Get a bunch of great looking apples and stuff a shitty, rotting one among them. Give it a few days, all of them will be inedible.

      If I had an apple for every time someone doesn't understand how bad apples work, I'd own a computer company.

    7. Re:"Only a true conspiracy theorist" by Type44Q · · Score: 2

      If you believe that the NSA are good guys and don't do all the psychopathic evil shit

      They're probably "just" Sigint; the really creepy shit is done by privately-controlled groups (such as QinetiQ) using redirected public funds and profits from large-scale illicit activities such as the drug trade and slave labor.

    8. Re:"Only a true conspiracy theorist" by Scott+Tracy · · Score: 2

      Sagan said "extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence." No one knows who first said the "absence of evidence" line, but it's sure not something Sagan would have said.

    9. Re:"Only a true conspiracy theorist" by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Doesn't matter. Extraordinary evidence might be required to PROVE them, but to get people interested in asking questions and searching for that evidence, you dont need consensus you just need a plausible claim. You don't need everyone to help, you need only as many of the right people helping as it takes to uncover that extraordinary evidence. Everyone else is just a bystander, whether they are singing for or against your endeavor they don't matter unless... they are trying to obstruct you. They might say it's a waste of government funds to investigate/research the matter but by this point there have been such colossal wastes of government money that I think we could indulge an investigation into every conspiracy theory and still be a rounding error compared to other waste. Unfortunately where foul intentions are suspected, anyone who is investigating must publish all their procedures, notes, and evidence for inspection, and there will probably be people who will don't believe the conclusion. No true conspiracy theorist would trust a government investigation anyway.

    10. Re:"Only a true conspiracy theorist" by rahvin112 · · Score: 1

      What your talking about is propaganda. You must be young to not realize how effective good propaganda actually is. Our society is filled with good propaganda right now and social media is simply one of those tools.

    11. Re:"Only a true conspiracy theorist" by fazig · · Score: 1

      Having spent my childhood in the former Soviet Union (deported) I understand how effective propaganda is. My parents and grand parents still bear a latent distrust against the West, which makes them quick to assume that the USA is to blame for something that's wrong in the world. Even though they know about most of the lies and selective truths that we've been told by now. They know how corrupt state officials or even the occasional neighbour paid to spy on you (yeah they were really great at maintaining their cover that way) lived like kings while the rest of the workers lived in relative poverty, yet they still romanticize with the situation on some level.
      Then we moved to Germany where I had to learn about Nazi propaganda techniques and how effective those were in riling up the people for their total war.
      Sure, propaganda can be extremely effective, that was never the question. The problem lies with being told what to think, and not how you can think for yourself by rational thinking and weighing pros and cons. With the former you must trust in those who have the power to create and spread propaganda, hope that they only have your best interests in mind.
      But well, history taught us that this is often not the case. It tells us that power tends to corrupt, that those who have power don't want to give it up easily and do a lot of things in order to stay in power.

    12. Re:"Only a true conspiracy theorist" by Tablizer · · Score: 1

      Perfection is unobtainable. Life is compromise.

    13. Re:"Only a true conspiracy theorist" by Agent0013 · · Score: 1

      Right, but the compromise for apples is to remove the bad ones before they ruin all of them. Not leave them there because a few of them are acceptable.

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      -- ssoorrrryy,, dduupplleexx sswwiittcchh oonn.. -Quote found on actual fortune cookie.
    14. Re:"Only a true conspiracy theorist" by BreakingBad · · Score: 1

      It was Donald Rumsfeld who said "absence of evidence is not evidence of absence"... In regard to supposed weapons of mass destruction in Iraq.

  4. ... continued (part 2) by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Informative

    [Because /. mobile does not support previewing and the end of my comment is missing.] ... until everyone who does, including only posting the original good criticism, gets ridiculed instantly, so that the good criticism is effectively poisoned with the insane bullshit.

    It was documented, that it was used on Occupy (successfully destroyed), Anonymous (by the time it became a "group", despite the whe point being that is is not a group), Wikilieaks (nearly destroyed, they got to Assange's second man), and even the Tea Party (to my surprise). 43 groups in total were mentioned.

    So if you ever wonder why nobody tries to change anything, or overthrow the rulers ... *they are* ... there are a lot of groups trying to change things in a big way. But they all get destroyed, until you and me laugh at them too. And many of them were definitely and provably not nuts before the TLAs fucked with them.

    1. Re: ... continued (part 2) by c6gunner · · Score: 1, Troll

      And many of them were definitely and provably not nuts before the TLAs fucked with them.

      So does the fact that you sound like a nutbag mean that the TLAs have fucked with you too?

    2. Re: ... continued (part 2) by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      #metoo, the IRS just rape torture fucked me so hard on my taxes.

    3. Re:... continued (part 2) by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      What was documented as being "used" against those groups exactly? Documented by whom? Where are your sources?

      You rail against insane bullshit and yet you seem determined, if anything, to contribute to the problem rather than solve it. Let's see some evidence to support your claims, extraordinary as they are.

      Oh wait, let me guess, your sources are too important and secret to reveal or some other asinine explanation for why your internal fantasy world doesn't match up with what the rest of us call reality.

    4. Re: ... continued (part 2) by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      You sound like a naive asshole.

    5. Re: ... continued (part 2) by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      they are quoting from the snowden leaks and even gave the operation name. learn to read, troll

  5. This is the Information that goes with the Picture by Bioblaze · · Score: 1

    Actual information Associated too the Post: http://www.constitution.org/ab... Its weird in a FOIA Request sent that in it.

  6. Complete crap by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

    Complete crap, but nice to remember a well done conspiracy site.

    "information in the human brain by digitally decoding the evoked potentials in the 30-50 Hz, 5 milliwatt electromagnetic emissions from the brain"

    Well, the EU electricity system runs at 50Hz, and there is a hell of a lot EM interference caused by car electricals at this wavelength. WiFi at 2.4 gigs could not decode a brain. 5ghz gigs would still be too slow, but would anyway be stopped by the skin. Busted.

    The closest tech is Cochlear, who with implants still cannot replicate hearing, and although expensive, certainly could be used for enhanced interrogation after invasive surgery.
    .
    Pain, since the 1600's will always get any confession, even if not true. yet that methodology is still employed as enhanced interrogation.

    However Facebook, CNN, twitter false news, and pervasive internet recording is likely to give somebody power to blackmail elected senators and the executive. Even Donald, if he read it might say, see these $%^&&* do need to be sacked.

    1. Re:Complete crap by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      These US TLAs are going to keep pushing until they have people detonating tractor-trailers full of explosives right over the agency/dept. logos in their HQ lobbies.

    2. Re:Complete crap by Humbubba · · Score: 2
      Psycho-electric weapons are about as possible as a 9 volt thinking cap.

      Sally Adee, a reporter for 'New Scientist', writes about how the US military strapped electrodes to her head during sniper training that put her in a mental state of effortless concentration known as "flow", and was a short cut to becoming an expert sniper*.

      If they can do the one, I won't be surprised if they can do the other. Won't be surprised if I'm wrong either.

      *http://www.lastwordonnothing.com/2012/02/09/better-living-through-electrochemistry/

      (paywalled) https://www.newscientist.com/article/mg21328501-600-zap-your-brain-into-the-zone-fast-track-to-pure-focus/

    3. Re:Complete crap by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      Transcranial stimulation of certain brain rhythms in selective regions of the brain might be possible and might even have some positive effects in some contexts, but it's like SSRIs ... throwing shit at a wall and seeing what sticks, coarse manipulation at best (with the side effect of the occasional manic episode where you murder your family in the case of SSRIs). We don't have a theory of the brain to do much more and even if we did without invasive surgery there is no way to do any fine grained targeting.

    4. Re: Complete crap by TJHook3r · · Score: 2

      How about 'binaural beats'? No electricity involved, just sound.

    5. Re: Complete crap by Humbubba · · Score: 1
      TJHook3r says

      How about 'binaural beats'? No electricity involved, just sound.

      Got a point...

      Binaural Beats Bleat Bicameral Brains

      Entrain with rhythms dicotomous

      Penetrates even the sane

      and in the end, in the main

      Reins transcendent consciousness

    6. Re: Complete crap by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Yeah, crap. People using the freedom of information act, might occationally uncover something embarassing.

      So leak some sensational mumbo-jumbo to keep them busy & derail the press. When psycho-electric craze eventually fizzles, nobody remembers those other papers or why they were requested.

    7. Re:Complete crap by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Actually, the frequency is not very important. The only thing that matters is the inter-relationship of entangled quantum energy. Read about entangled photons: the tech's been around since the 80's (SDI and star wars plus a lot of commercial and academic development). Most people think of entangled quantum as the stuff of photons and light. However; by using liquid nitrogen coolers, cell phone radiation can contain entangled quantum states.

      A molecule known as the POSNER molecule, which exists in the human brain (well, any mammal's brain) - can store entangled quantum properties. These likely can be manipulated by anything holding the complimentary photon, like a person or maybe even a computer with quantum memory. Some people say the brain is a quantum computer. Hold on to your seat belts. Your thoughts may not be your own ... do not change the channel ... the limits (outer) are here, so resist than seemingly insane urge that you never had to eat that marinated cow tongue.

         

  7. What other evils the government hides from us? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    We always suspect that the government has been doing a lot of not-that-good-things to the People, only to be called 'tin-hats'

    Snowden (and others) provide us with evidences of the rotten things the government is doing to us

    And now this ...

    What other evil things the government is doing to us?

    That Nexus magazine article was from 1996, over 20 years ago, and in the 20+ years who knows how many other despicable things the government has acquired, and has been applying those things on us

    1. Re: What other evils the government hides from us? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      No, he provided us with evidences of the rotten things the government is doing to us.

      You, however, provided us with evidence of the rotten (and transparent) argument techniques you use to try and change something that someone said.

    2. Re: What other evils the government hides from us? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      So dumb.

      Mind control is the type of tech that nuclear is. No way to actually keep it a secret if it exists.

      Some academic somewhere would have figured something out first and published a paper and got their Nobel. If that doesn't exist yet, then the science needed doesn't exist.

  8. Ok? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    If these capabilities exist, where are the hobby kits for the home use? Last time I checked, there aren't decent infrasound generators and I haven't seen any decent mind control rays. Where are these nifty toys?

    1. Re:Ok? by strstr · · Score: 0

      I am not going to provide you the document but mainstream media reported on DOD and Russia cover up of this ability in the 1990s. back then mind reading mind altering hardware and software was already publically available off the shelf, and they engaged in conspiracies to get it off the shelf so only they could have it. they reported on the cost of such hardware and software back then: a mere $60,000.

      https://www.trumpsweapon.com/
      https://www.drrobertduncan.com...

    2. Re:Ok? by burtosis · · Score: 1

      Today we call it Facebook and its free.

    3. Re: Ok? by strstr · · Score: 0

      No Facebook is incapable to read and decrypt neuron activity. Facebook has falsified information on it, known as information warfare, marketing, etc. Going by what people post on Facebook is not the same as being able to read their thoughts/mind because people can post anything they want including falsified narrative.

      NSA does not use Facebook at all to determine facts. They use what is known as NSA ESP, Facebook messages are just the parallel construction guinea pig as they call it. They get to hide their use of NSA ESP by claiming in made up reports and statements that the Intel came from another source.

      The reality is all the reports hide how and when investigations actually began and what tools such as NSA ESP a global satellite/radar grid were used.

      https://www.trumpsweapon.com/
      https://www.drrobertduncan.com...

  9. Last time I checked... by cstacy · · Score: 2

    Last time I checked, there aren't decent infrasound generators and I haven't seen any decent mind control rays.

    They were utilized in between the time you thought you ought to look for them, and (as far as you can remember) "the last time I checked"?

    1. Re:Last time I checked... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      "They were utilized in between the time you thought you ought to look for them, and (as far as you can remember) "the last time I checked"?" Brilliant!

  10. Re:This is the Information that goes with the Pict by msauve · · Score: 1
    From the document:

    Thru wall radar used to monitor starting and stopping of your urination - water below turned on and off in sync with your urine stream

    I wonder if they've ever really done this?

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    "National Security is the chief cause of national insecurity." - Celine's First Law
  11. Working with high power radios by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I often hear stories from tuners (people, not the electronic circuit) and they say they can tell which radio is being tested by the physical sensations.

    Stuffy head? 200 watt C band. Dry eyes? Ku band.

    There's a lot of leakage in our products... :(

  12. Disinformation op by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

    The real psychological control is the insertion of bullshit "psychological control" document in the FOIA response, baiting the news organization, and discrediting efforts to hold the government answerable.

    1. Re:Disinformation op by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Nail, meet head.

      Head, nail.

  13. Re:This is the Information that goes with the Pict by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I think you can already buy a Japanese toilet that will do that.

  14. Belief vs. data and skepticism. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    That's where we all need to be skeptics about everything.

    For years people talked about the NSA spying on people and most were (rightfully) skeptical. Then the Snowden leaks.

    This pscyho-eletrical weapons story sounds like complete horseshit because the science really doesn't back it up. There have been experiments with magnets and other things for changing moods but nothing really concrete - let alone anything that had offensive potential. (Maybe make the adversary really happy so that they don't want to attack?!)

    Experimentation and actual weapon building is light years apart. It is possible that some black money was set aside for experiments but that doesn't necessarily mean that anything came of it.

    Of course some folks hear about the experiments and extrapolate to the ridiculous and then there is the conspiracy theory.

  15. Re:guys I am an expert on this by strstr · · Score: 0

    I decided to give you fucking low IQ pieces of shit the classified side. you always discredit the existence of a weapon so old it started development in 1930. the space weapon has so many capabilities from scanning homes, papers, brains, blood and genitals for remote sensing mass surveillance population control to assassinating dissidents by mass shootings and natural looking/ accidental deaths. there's a group in control of the whole planet and they don't want the mass public slave to know this is real. they invest a lot of resources into keeping the typical monkey slave living in a fantasy world. This includes making us watch fantasy bullshit movies and TV, and read bullshit fantasy books, and all education and news is void of the truth. This splits our minds into an alternative reality unable to emotionally react to things we have been told don’t exist. All humanity is imprisoned and the wealthy elite own our bitch asses..they are all psychic power wielders who refuse to give up their control over the world.

    I am one of their core targets for knowing all their secrets willing to disclose.
    they want me dead badly for. fuck me I went through hell to get this out. so many torture episodes and murder attempts. I have been sexually raped electronically 1000s of times in retaliation.
    https://docs.google.com/docume...
    https://www.trumpsweapon.com/ https://www.drrobertduncan.com...

  16. Just use Occams Razor by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    They don't believe it themselves, they tell it so that idiots will believe it. They're not buying into the lie, they're buying into the fairytale. Fairytales are lies told to amuse, or to warn, or for effect. You tell your kids about Santa Clause, but Occams says he could not deliver those Christmas presents in time.

    Occams Razor: If the NSA can do mind control, why can't they defend email servers? Meh.

    Just use Occam on everything:

    Cohen is a fixer/money launderer well known to a lot of the Republicans, Trump, Hannity, Elliott Broidy (RNC deputy fund raiser). Occams: When they have a problem, they know who to go to, because they know who their friends went to previous times.

    Hannity didn't just fail to report his ties to Cohen when reporting about Cohen on Fox News, he also didn't tell Fox News about the other payoffs he knows.

    The mismatch of stories means Hannity is telling a lie, and there will be hush money that needs to be protected from the FBI's gaze. Occams: Hannity did a bad bad thing.

    RNC's Elliot doesn't just launder the payment to his ex mistress to get her to have an obortion through Cohen, he launders *other* money for the RNC, that's why he's their deputy fundraiser. That's why he knows Cohen. That will be foreign money, like the Novatek $26 million lobbying offer he made to the Russian oil firm to get the sanction lifted (reported today on Intercept).

    Scott Pruitt, received *free* lodging in Washington from lobbyists as a bribe. The paperwork saying he had a lease was just cover. Nobody expected him to pay it, and it was not renewed because it was not real and was forgotten about. Only when the free accomodation was noticed, did the lobbyist landlords pretend he was a 'deadbeat' tenant and they'd changed the locks on him for not paying his rent (yet the agreement had expired months earlier and they'd taken no action during the non payment, Pruit on the other hand had travelled to Moroco and lobbied on behalf of their client). Occams: its more likely to be a gentlemens freebie in kind than a true contract that was breached, and only enforced long after it expired.

    Trumps bodyguard from Moscow in 2013, Keith Schiller told the Russia inquiry that he turned away the hookers from Trump's room in Moscow. The bodyguard's lawyer received a payment from Trump Campaign Funds of $66k in 2018. Why? Certainly he didn't do election work, so this payment is for something else related to his actual work. Occam's Razor: the bodyguard is indirectly confirming the hookers entered the hotel past hotel security, i.e. they were arranged. He is lying about turning them away off his own back, he would have asked Trump first. Ergo this is part of a payoff for lying about the Moscow hookers.
    $66k soungs like $60k + 10% lawyer fee. Lawyers don't work for $6k, so this is one payment of many. Each with 10% on the top.

    1. Re:Just use Occams Razor by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Occams Razor: If the NSA can do mind control, why can't they defend email servers? Meh.

      That's not Occam's Razor. Not even close. Nor is anything in the rest of your post.

      Which is a pity, since lex parsimoniae, as well as Hanlon's Razor, are good tools to weed out whacked-out quackthink. And indeed, conspiracy theories usually fail one or both of these.

  17. Did any of you read the source? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Bad grammar, nonsensical sciencey sounding speak. All credited to someplace called raven1.net.

  18. Re:This is the Information that goes with the Pict by burtosis · · Score: 1

    I think you can already buy a Japanese toilet that will do that.

    Those toilet engineers have the worst job I think I've heard of yet. Unless they are the sort that really shouldn't be working there, in which case the best job ever.

  19. denial by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    why do people with no technical or biological education always deny these possibilities outright ?

    They don't wanna know , because they're psyche can't handle the truth about the human species and what filth they use for personal gains over others.

    No you are not living in that fantasy wonder world that gets painted for you, peel off that paint and become very depressed with actual reality.

    1. Re:denial by mikael · · Score: 1

      In the 1980's, they said that spy satellites could take a photograph of a newspaper and read all the printed text on that paper. That would be an extremely useful capability. If you are able to see people standing around an outdoor table, then you would want to know what they were reading. What if the optics of the satellite were used to project light or microwaves instead of receive it?

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  20. There is an even crazier narrative. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    This was planted by a Republican clerk at said Fusion Center, and is intended to help fuel the 'Deep State' narrative they've been pushing since the last presidential campaign (or Trump's inauguration, I didn't really pay attention to when all that kookiness started.) While it sounds insane on the face of it, if you were trying to polarize the citizens, especially towards privatization of government services and dissolution of a rival party, this would provide fuel for the fire. And who among them doesn't want to watch Rome burn, so long as they can claim it is the Democrats/Liberals fault?

    1. Re: There is an even crazier narrative. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      "Deep State" isn't a conspiracy theory. Hell, look in the FBI documents for references to a "shadow government", a term that, while not entirely as ominous as it sounds, does reflect hard-to-remove unelected officials engaging in governance and policy.

  21. Re:Zontar, no denying this by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Welp, that's the Swedish population decline solved. Right?

  22. Last Part explains it all. by amiga3D · · Score: 2

    This line buried at the tail end of the article says it all. "The federal government has absolutely experimented with mind control in a variety of methods, but the documents here do not appear to be official." They in fact came from a magazine that specializes in conspiracy theories. I love it when an article is full of all this crazy stuff then at the end they tell you "Oh, yes, it's all bullshit." What a waste of time.

  23. Re:This is the Information that goes with the Pict by ColdWetDog · · Score: 1

    Those toilet engineers have the worst job I think I've heard of yet. Unless they are the sort that really shouldn't be working there, in which case the best job ever.

    Why is that? If they're like most engineers, they never get anywhere near where the device is installed.

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  24. Not a problem by PPH · · Score: 1

    Would you all please just look this way for a sec?

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  25. and they said I was crazy by drewsup · · Score: 1

    Suddenly my tinfoil hat doesn't look so silly anymore, does it!?

  26. In other news by Jayfar · · Score: 1

    Aluminum foil stocks rose sharply today.

  27. Gaslighting journalists it seems. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Only other reason I think this would be in the file is they have an antifa member under surveillance who buys into this.

  28. Obvious Explanation by quantaman · · Score: 2

    As the summary points out the images were made up as part of a lawsuit filed by conspiracy theorists against the NSA in 1996.

    Do you really think a modern 'Psycho-Electric Weapons' project is going to be using crappy drawings made by conspiracy theorists who sued the government 22 years ago?

    The source of the images isn't someone working on Psycho-Electric Weapons, it's a government employee who happens to believe in conspiracy theories (or at least downloads their stuff).

    That person downloaded the zip file onto their computer from some conspiracy theory site. And then during the FOIA request that doc got included either by accident or as a joke.

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  29. Re:This is the Information that goes with the Pict by burtosis · · Score: 2

    Maybe they don't have to watch (maybe... shudder) but they do for example have to find the optimal distance, angle, nozzle geometry, and water pressure to clean both sexes genital and anal areas for the bidet feature. My oh my does that sound fun.

  30. Bullshit. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Those "documents" were reused from a conspiracy-theory magazine and are not US gov documents.

    The most likely explanation, given the data provided by the article, is that the "accidental" release was a form of causing distress and paranoia to the people requesting FOIA documents by trying to make them believe in a conspiracy theory about the US gov.

    And the reason why Slashdot is reposting this crap with a clickbait article...

  31. Slashdot == pro-Putler by benjfowler · · Score: 1

    Clearly, Slashdot's editors haven't yet had enough of gargling Putin's balls and spreading enemy propaganda yet.

    Shame on you, you anti-Western traitors.

    1. Re:Slashdot == pro-Putler by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Clearly, Slashdot's editors haven't yet had enough of gargling Putin's balls and spreading enemy propaganda yet.

      Shame on you, you anti-Western traitors.

      You know, Putin already means "whore" in just about every language except English. So the considerable amount of time that you undoubtedly spent coming up with the "Putler" thing could probably have been better spent.

  32. Re:This is the Information that goes with the Pict by greylion3 · · Score: 1

    Part of being a good scientist or engineer (in some fields), is being able to 'turn off' your normal responses to otherwise nauseating experiences, and look at things from a very clinical or 'machine-like' perspective.

    Then, there are also people that even enjoy those experiences. That's a bit more disturbing.

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