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Doctors Tried To Lower $148K Cancer Drug Cost; Makers Tripled Its Price (arstechnica.com)

Slashdot reader Applehu Akbar writes: Imbruvica, a compound that treats white blood cell cancers, has until now been a bargain at $148,000 per year. Until now, doctors have been able to optimize dosage for each patient by prescribing up to four small-dose pills of it per day.

But after results from a recent small pilot trial indicated that smaller doses would for most patients work as well as the large ones, its manufacturer, Janssen and Pharmacyclics, has decided on the basis of the doctors' interest in smaller dosages to reprice all sizes of the drug to the price of the largest size. This has the effect of tripling the price for patients, and doctors have now put off any plans for further testing of lower dosages.

The researchers are retaliating by urging clinical investigators to test whether the expensive pill could be safely given every other day -- and by calling on America's public health regulators to investigate the drug's pricing.

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  1. Crimes against humanity by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Hang them

    1. Re:Crimes against humanity by www.goatse.ru · · Score: 3, Insightful

      Martin Shkreli got off scot-free in my book. These people should be hanged for all the deaths they cause to people who can't afford their drugs.

      Big Pharma is JUST LIKE big insurance, folks. They write the laws in their own favor.

    2. Re:Crimes against humanity by Type44Q · · Score: 3, Insightful

      Our Minuteman and nuclear sub force is enough to deter invasion.

      Right, keep the nuclear deterrents but get rid of any and all defensive weapons. Boats? Bullets? Rifles, tanks, attack aircraft? "We don't need 'em anymore; we've got nukes."

    3. Re:Crimes against humanity by PopeRatzo · · Score: 3, Insightful

      Without profits, there is no incentive to do any R&D.

      That's utter horseshit. You've been so brainwashed by the ubiquitous marketing of a late-stage capitalist system that you can't even fathom someone doing research without corporate sponsorship. It's robbed you of imagination.

      https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/...

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    4. Re:Crimes against humanity by PopeRatzo · · Score: 3, Insightful

      What I cannot fathom is someone paying tens or hundreds of millions for a clinical trial.

      The numbers that get thrown about regarding the cost of conducting clinical trials are inflated by thousands of percent. Profits are disguised as costs. It's a huge scam. Plus, much of the cost of clinical trials in the US is subsidized by the taxpayers.

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  2. Just because you can doesn't mean you should. by Known+Nutter · · Score: 3, Insightful

    Much of what is wrong in the world is represented in this story. I get it.. recovery of R&D costs, profit, all of that. This seems to go far beyond the pale, though.

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  3. Public interest by RyanFenton · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Lots of folks here are allergic to the idea of the public interest having any role in public policy. I understand where you're coming from - "if it isn't helping me now..."

    But here's the thing - properly funding public research is WAY cheaper than these ruthless extortion tactics we've turned healthcare into for the past few decades.

    I mean, it's crazy cheaper to prioritize a working public healthcare, and yes, research programs.

    As in, most of the rest of the world would consider how we run things a complete joke.

    But somehow, because it involves some sort of public interest at play... it's somehow seen as a threat(?)

    But somehow, these stories after stories of business people deciding to extort folks, with such calculated corporate smiles on their faces are seen as not a threat.

    Which is rather odd - those same folks would see Andy Griffith as a misty memory ideal don't see how basically that's exactly the kind of cruel selfishness personified that he ranted at in half of the episodes of his show.

    It's just so bizarre to see what passes for debate and morality in discussions on Slashdot these days.

    Ryan Fenton

  4. This is the economic system... by VeryFluffyBunny · · Score: 5, Insightful

    ...that so many Americans identify with and defend patriotically and decry anything else as Socialism/Communism/government overreach. This is the free market and minimal regulation at work, doing what it's supposed to do, regardless of anything except profits and share prices, and you vote for it like true patriots every few years.

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    1. Re:This is the economic system... by fahrbot-bot · · Score: 3, Insightful

      ...that so many Americans identify with and defend patriotically and decry anything else as Socialism/Communism/government overreach. This is the free market and minimal regulation at work, doing what it's supposed to do, regardless of anything except profits and share prices, and you vote for it like true patriots every few years.

      "'Money before people', Ted, it's the company motto, written right on the lobby floor. It just looks more heroic in Latin."
      -- Veronica Palmer, Better Off Ted, Season 1, Episode 4.

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  5. In Europe drugs are 1/10-1/20th of USA price by lamer01 · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Everytime I go there and go to a pharmacy to get a prescription refill while abroad, the price charged is usually even lower than my copay in the USA. It is an obscenity against US consumers. We should really be in the streets with pitch forks about this but we are not. The fact that most drugs are covered and only copay is needed obfuscates the real retail prices that would cripple anyone without insurance. I was shocked about the prices in europe. Most americans would not even need prescription coverage for most of those drugs as their street price is ridiculously low compared to what we pay in the USA

  6. et tu by harvey+the+nerd · · Score: 3, Insightful

    His candor doesn't make the foulness of his predatory actions ok.

    His abuses of abusive laws are not ok. An "et tu" defense that others do it doesn't make it ok.

  7. It's the prices, stupid! by mspohr · · Score: 4, Insightful

    The entire US health care system is a scam run by doctors, hospitals, pharma, insurance companies. Prices for health care in the US are four to ten times that of the rest of the world. Other developed countries have universal care and better health indicators than the US and they spend less than half what the US spends to cover just part of the population.
    We have the most expensive, least effective health care in the world.
    No other civilized country would let pharma get away with these obscene prices for drugs. Other countries control prices. However, the US is run by a crony capitalist system where corporations, etc. buy congress to protect their profits.

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