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Your Next Job Interview Could Be With a Racist Bot (thedailybeast.com)
An anonymous reader quotes a report from The Daily Beast: Companies across the nation are now using some rudimentary artificial intelligence, or AI, systems to screen out applicants before interviews commence and for the interviews themselves. As a Guardian article from March explained, many of these companies are having people interview in front of a camera that is connected to AI that analyzes their facial expressions, their voice and more. One of the top recruiting companies doing this, Hirevue, has large customers like Hilton and Unilever. Their AI scores people using thousands of data points and compares it to the scores of the best current employees. But that can be unintentionally problematic. As Recode pointed out, because most programmers are white men, these AI are actually often trained using white male faces and male voices. That can lead to misperceptions of black faces or female voices, which can lead to the AI making negative judgments about those people. The results could trend sexist or racist, but the employer who is using this AI would be able to shift the blame to a supposedly neutral technology. Companies are also having people do their first interview with an AI chatbot. "One popular AI that does this is called Mya, which promises a 70 percent decrease in hiring time," reports The Daily Beast. "Any number of questions these chatbots could ask could be proxies for race, gender or other factors."
Silly American. Your country has no left, you only have right, more right and alt right.
"because most programmers are white men, these AI are actually often trained using white male faces and male voices"
White men program it, so it can't be fair ... god fucking damn hypocritical sexist, racist twat.
"because most programmers are white men, these AI are actually often trained using white male faces and male voices"
They identified an issue with the data and it's likely cause... and you somehow took that to mean that the author was blaming the developer's race and gender, rather than the poor quality of their work.
Anyone who understands AI will tell you that your training data needs to be representative of the data the AI will operate on and the decision making criteria. The people building these things are incompetent and made ridiculous assumptions, and the author is calling that out by explaining their mistakes.
It seems like criticising a white male these days will instantly bring out people screaming sexism and racism and hypocrisy, which is rather ironic.
const int one = 65536; (Silvermoon, Texture.cs)
SJW, n: "Someone I don't like, and by the way I'm a fuckwit" - AC
Actually, we do. Studies have found that even having a female dominated HR division still tends to favour men in most instances. Counter-intuitive if you are the kind of person who assumes genders will "stick together" and are inherently biased in favour of their own, but anyone familiar with the past century of academic work on the subject will be unsurprised.
const int one = 65536; (Silvermoon, Texture.cs)
SJW, n: "Someone I don't like, and by the way I'm a fuckwit" - AC
Unemployment was lower during the Clinton administration, which I'm pretty sure was less than 67 years ago.
See September of 2000, for example:
http://www.macrotrends.net/137...
And that the three main measurements of unemployment, the official overall, the U5 and the U6.
You are welcome on my lawn.
I think you just described how bias works in human minds as well. That's why statistical correlation can be racist, it's often a statistical fact that applies generally. However if the algorithm can't evaluate an individual in a nuanced way based on thier specific abilities and attributes it's no better than just using racism, sexism, and general stereotypes.
Although your comment is quite valid in that the markets for various low-skilled labor do have an effect on each other, very few low-skilled immigrants work retail where English/Spanish language skills are fairly important. They may stock the shelves, though. Most low-skill immigrants work physically demanding jobs that natives won't take like meat processing and agriculture.
Regulations that make it illegal to ask questions about children, marital status, gender, ethnic origin, etc. Legal practice that gets companies sued simply for not hiring enough minorities.
Thanks for the offer, but I prefer my men a little smarter than you are.
Free college would be embarassing. A shocking majority of the public would refuse because they are too stupid and/or lazy to attempt it. I moved to a more-rust-belt area of the country about 17 years ago. There are really beligerant stupid people here, and a weird sort of calvinism where the work ethic is strong, but ambition is viewed with suspicion. Most of my in-laws have only a high school education. One nephew who got a full athletic scolarship dropped out when it became clear he'd not become a sports pro after college.
Free college would be great for some, but it would mean nothing to a depressingly large group of people.
Indeed. I'm lucky that I can be picky about what job I accept, and using bots, silly tests or other daft interviewing techniques is a sure sign that I don't want to work there.
Unfortunately, for some people that's a luxury they don't have, and they are the ones who need protection the most.
const int one = 65536; (Silvermoon, Texture.cs)
SJW, n: "Someone I don't like, and by the way I'm a fuckwit" - AC
To weigh them in the manner you suggest they would have to have built in associations between places and these racial groups.
For your concept to work they would have to do that. Do you have any evidence what so ever that they do this or are you just making things up?
Answer... but we both already know you're full of crap.
Cite proof. The source code can be audited. Surely court cases could demand it. Where is the evidence?
What we both know is that that isn't what is happening. There have been a million studies on this issue. There have been endless fishing expeditions. They have all come up bust. You can show a hiring pattern but the hiring pattern every time is supported by the actual presence of the people with the skills they want to hire.
That means the correlating element is not race... its ability.
Provide a link to one of these programs being set up in the manner you suggest they're all being set up.
You are creating a presumption of guilt environment where the accused must prove their innocence simply on your accusation.
If this is the direction you want to go with law, then you're going to suffer literal witch trials before long. And you'll deserve them.
I've decided to stop wasting my time responding to AC trolls/sockpuppets... so if you want a response from me... login.
the trick, I think, is that you can do that with places that aren't chains, which are unfortunately getting rarer.
Here is an example from today. 97 workers arrested by ICE from a meat packing plant, jobs no American wants because of how brutal they are, yet we all depend on their labor for cheap meat.