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Was There a Civilization On Earth Before Humans? (theatlantic.com)

Adam Frank, writing for The Atlantic: We're used to imagining extinct civilizations in terms of the sunken statues and subterranean ruins. These kinds of artifacts of previous societies are fine if you're only interested in timescales of a few thousands of years. But once you roll the clock back to tens of millions or hundreds of millions of years, things get more complicated.

When it comes to direct evidence of an industrial civilization -- things like cities, factories, and roads -- the geologic record doesn't go back past what's called the Quaternary period 2.6 million years ago. For example, the oldest large-scale stretch of ancient surface lies in the Negev Desert. It's "just" 1.8 million years old -- older surfaces are mostly visible in cross section via something like a cliff face or rock cuts. Go back much farther than the Quaternary and everything has been turned over and crushed to dust.

And, if we're going back this far, we're not talking about human civilizations anymore. Homo sapiens didn't make their appearance on the planet until just 300,000 years or so ago. [...] Given that all direct evidence would be long gone after many millions of years, what kinds of evidence might then still exist? The best way to answer this question is to figure out what evidence we'd leave behind if human civilization collapsed at its current stage of development.
Mr. Frank, along with Gavin Schmidt, Director of the NASA Goddard Institute for Space Studies, have published their research on the subject [PDF].

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  1. Yeah, dinasaurs by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Funny

    and the Flintstones.

    1. Re:Yeah, dinasaurs by Joce640k · · Score: 4, Funny

      Layers and layers of compressed shoes.

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      No sig today...
  2. There are those who believe... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

    There are those who believe that life here began out there, far across the universe, with tribes of humans who may have been the forefathers of the Egyptians, or the Toltecs, or the Mayans, that they may have been the architects of the Great Pyramids, or the lost civilizations of Lemuria or Atlantis. Some believe that there may yet be brothers of man who even now fight to surviveâ"somewhere beyond the heavens!

    1. Re:There are those who believe... by the_skywise · · Score: 3, Funny

      And then came Galactica 1980...

  3. Re:Antarctica mountains by DoktorMidnight · · Score: 5, Funny

    There was one expedition to the area decades ago by Miskatonic University, but it was disastrous. There were no survivors of the original expedition; the only two men who returned were from the rescue team dispatched by the University. They came back ranting about shifting eyes in the darkness and kept repeating a nonsense sound: "tekeli-li." There have been no other attempts made to explore that place afterwards. Even if the rumors of a great and terrible city, ancient beyond all measure, are true, we only have the word of two men barely clinging to their sanity after being exposed to one of the most extreme environments on Earth.

    No, there is nothing to be gained by exploring the Transantarctic range. There is nothing but madness in those mountains.

  4. Re:No (evidence: coal is still there) by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Funny

    According to some research, certain types of plastic could last for as long as 50 million years..

    They should charge extra for that.

  5. Re:No (evidence: coal is still there) by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Funny

    If you would try to get funding for something like this people would declare you mad.

    If you want to put up a Kickstarter, I'll chip in $20.