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Chinese Tech Companies Post Men-Only Job Listings, Report Finds (theverge.com)
Major Chinese tech companies like Huawei, Alibaba, and Tencent discriminate against women in their online job listings, a new report from Human Rights Watch found today. Some job postings directly state they are for men only, while others specify that women must have attractive appearances and even be a certain height. The Verge reports: The Human Rights Watch report reveals gender discrimination amongst major tech companies, as in the rest of Chinese society, is common and widespread. Search engine Baidu listed a job for content reviewers in March 2017 stating that applicants had to be men with the "strong ability to work under pressure, able to work on weekends, holidays and night shifts." The conglomerate Tencent, which owns WeChat, the massive game Honor of Kings, and a majority stake in League of Legends, was found to have posted an ad for a sports content editor in March 2017, stating it was looking for "strong men who are able to work nightshifts."
And Alibaba, despite Jack Ma touting the company's inclusiveness, merited an entire case study from the Human Rights Watch report. The report noted the e-commerce giant came under fire in 2015 for posting a job ad on its site for a "computer programmer's motivator" seeking women applicants with physical characteristics like Japanese adult film star Sola Aoi. Alibaba removed the reference to Sola Aoi after media reported on it, but kept the ad on the site. As recently as January this year, Alibaba still mentioned "men preferred" in job listings for "restaurant operations support specialist" positions. Tech companies also often tout the attractive women they've hired as incentives for more men to come on board, according to the HRW report. Both Tencent and Baidu were noted to have posted to their social media accounts interviews with male employees who cited having beautiful women around them as an incentive for working there.
And Alibaba, despite Jack Ma touting the company's inclusiveness, merited an entire case study from the Human Rights Watch report. The report noted the e-commerce giant came under fire in 2015 for posting a job ad on its site for a "computer programmer's motivator" seeking women applicants with physical characteristics like Japanese adult film star Sola Aoi. Alibaba removed the reference to Sola Aoi after media reported on it, but kept the ad on the site. As recently as January this year, Alibaba still mentioned "men preferred" in job listings for "restaurant operations support specialist" positions. Tech companies also often tout the attractive women they've hired as incentives for more men to come on board, according to the HRW report. Both Tencent and Baidu were noted to have posted to their social media accounts interviews with male employees who cited having beautiful women around them as an incentive for working there.
Other cultures are actually different, Euro and Euro derived cultures are shocked to discover!
"This isn't the diversity we had in mind", activists quoted as saying ...
What this point demonstrates that it is Liberalism, Freedom of Speech, and strong protections of Personal Rights that allow SJWs to exist.
You seem to imply that this is a bad thing. Those vary same things allow for all manner of other ideologies, advocacy groups, or people with other points of view to exist as well, many of which have little or no overlap with SJWs in terms of belifs. It's those same protections that allow you to post about it on the internet without anyone from the government kicking down your door and dragging you off to one of those reeducation camps. I would think that having to listen to some idiots whinge on the internet (where you're just as free to dispute them) is a tiny price to pay for those freedoms.
You're the one who seems to be missing the point, the poster was talking about how so many SJWs are ironically ignorant in how they rage against some of the very rights and protections that allow them to exist in the first place.
What this point demonstrates that it is Liberalism, Freedom of Speech, and strong protections of Personal Rights that allow SJWs to exist.
You seem to imply that this is a bad thing.
You misunderstood my point. What I said is that SJW couldn't exist without certain set of values in the society, and SJWs are against some of these values.
That is, SJW when taken to a logical conclusion would change society in a way that would make SJW impossible.
I don't think that's necessarily true. An authoritarian state can have just about any kind of party line it wants to and I don't believe there is anything that prevents an authoritarian state from enshrining social justice values as the law of the land and persecuting anyone who goes against them. You can look at North Korea, Nazi Germany, Soviet Russia, and Chile under Pinochet as examples of highly authoritarian states that had some very different value sets.
What you probably meant is that those authoritarian states tend to prohibit counter cultures from emerging and taking hold because they're so good at crushing them before they gain any momentum.
Women are not aggressive and competitive? Are you kidding? They may be more subtle, but if you want to see backstabbing that could teach George R. R. Martin a few things even he didn't imagine possible, watch a few women try to outdo each other for a high level position.
The ideal team size for women seems to be two.
Wherever there are three women, two of them often gang up on and eventually backstab the third.
If more than three, the fights to establish the pecking order can become fierce. It's behavior evolved to increase the chances that they capture hearts of the best providers and the sperm of the men other women are most attracted to.
Men have their own natures that don't align well with workplaces, of course, including a natural desire to copulate with any fertile female they can get away with. But their drive to become the stable and successful top dog that women want to have a fling with is aligned with business interests at least some of the time.
How to design workplaces so they both align with our ideals, including equality and full respect for each other no matter what gender, and also takes into account that we humans have inclinations that will affect behavior on a larger scale than individuals... I have no idea. But I don't think denying the underlying problems are going to make them go away.
Women are not aggressive and competitive? Are you kidding? They may be more subtle, but if you want to see backstabbing that could teach George R. R. Martin a few things even he didn't imagine possible, watch a few women try to outdo each other for a high level position.
While the fickle finger of blame has always been pointed at men and the patriarchy, my experience and my wife's experience have been very different. The rumor mills, the jealousy, and the general hatred of women toward other people has been breathtaking. Since I'd be accused of mansplaining for my own experiences, I'll talk for my wife.
She rose to the number two position in her company, and was the highest paid employee there. She had teams of mostly men working for her. There were of course women in her workplace. While there are always personnel issues, the only people that had a problem with her were the women. "Oh, she must be fucking the owner to have got her position. "I wonder if Doggy style is the position she used to get her position?" And on and on. Pleasant to her face, but active undermining the second they walked away. and an unhealthy obsession with sex. Outside of the sexual innuendo, she is tall and slender. So if people think fat shaming is bad, you ought to see the shit women sling at other women if they think a woman is not fat enough.
The men overwhelmingly just loved her.
Meanwhile, here was a place trying to get things done in the construction and home design industry, and had some troublesome employees that were not hard to identify. In a bit of irony, my wife became very reluctant to hire women because of all of the workplace drama.
Her view is that as long as every problem is considered to be the fault of men, the problem will never be fixed. Women need to take some responsibility. Because what they are doing now is a crab bucket. pulling each other down.
I saw this in my own workplace as well, but since I'm a guy, no one would listen to my description.
The shepherds did so well protecting the flock that the sheep no longer believed that wolves existed.
The news over the last few days has reported on a women-only co-working space in the Bay Area called "The Coven." Women-only and themed after witchcraft.
If men created a men-only workspace and called it "The Monastery," it would be hated on 24-7 by the self-appointed intelligentsia. Hypocrisy abounds.
This article is about Samantha Brick, so it's more likely that it was just her personality that ruined it. She wrote an article titled "There are Downsides to Looking This Pretty': Why Women Hate Me for Being Beautiful" so you shouldn't be surprised that she was clueless.
The fact that the story is in the Daily Mail should ring alarm bells too. Sure enough, they failed to mention any of this and decided to depict the whole thing as "bitches, right?"
const int one = 65536; (Silvermoon, Texture.cs)
SJW, n: "Someone I don't like, and by the way I'm a fuckwit" - AC
The ideal team size for women seems to be two.
Wherever there are three women, two of them often gang up on and eventually backstab the third.
Wow. I've seem some misogynist trolling on Slashdot, but it's far worse when you try to come over all reasonable and matter of fact about it.
People keep telling me we are all equal now and we don't need feminism any more, but then comments like this get modded as "insightful". Lewis' Law still stands.
const int one = 65536; (Silvermoon, Texture.cs)
SJW, n: "Someone I don't like, and by the way I'm a fuckwit" - AC
Let capitalism determine if it's a good idea.
When has that ever been a good idea?
Capitalism thinks dumping toxic waste in the river is a good idea. Capitalism thinks working people to death, discarding their corpse and replacing them with another commodity labourer is a good idea
That's why every capitalist country has rules to protect people from capitalism. Why should we protect the environment, and employees, and animals, and property from harm but when it comes to women and the disable just leave them to suffer at the invisible hand of the market?
const int one = 65536; (Silvermoon, Texture.cs)
SJW, n: "Someone I don't like, and by the way I'm a fuckwit" - AC
> When has that ever been a good idea?
Most of the time.
Leave regulated non discrimination to governments and monopolies. Let normal people have freedom of association.