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Chinese Journalist Banned From Flying, Buying Property Due To 'Social Credit Score' (cbslocal.com)

schwit1 shares a report from CBS Local: China is rolling out a high-tech plan to give all of its 1.4 billion citizens a personal score, based on how they behave. But there are consequences if a score gets too low, and for some that's cause for concern. When Liu Hu recently tried to book a flight, he was told he was banned from flying because he was on the list of untrustworthy people. Liu is a journalist who was ordered by a court to apologize for a series of tweets he wrote and was then told his apology was insincere. "I can't buy property. My child can't go to a private school," he said. "You feel you're being controlled by the list all the time." And the list is now getting longer as every Chinese citizen is being assigned a social credit score -- a fluctuating rating based on a range of behaviors. It's believed that community service and buying Chinese-made products can raise your score. Fraud, tax evasion and smoking in non-smoking areas can drop it.

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  1. Someone's been watching Black Mirror... by wiretrip · · Score: 5, Informative

    ..and thought 'That's a good idea!'.... Scary..

    1. Re:Someone's been watching Black Mirror... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Informative

      (...)

      Remember that everybody starts with a full score. You don't have to work to earn any privileges. They're only taken away after you're an asshole towards the rest of us.

      No. They're "only" taken away once some unaccountable bureaucrat on politician's payroll decides without due process that in his opinion you have been an asshole. Very VERY different thing from actually being an asshole.

    2. Re:Someone's been watching Black Mirror... by merlinokos · · Score: 4, Informative

      And when you kill a man, you're a murderer
      Kill many, and you're a conqueror
      Kill them all, oh you're a god

      -Megadeth, Captive Honour

    3. Re: Someone's been watching Black Mirror... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Informative

      You get roads to travel on, cops to deter people who could hurt you, ambulances to carry your unconscoius body to an ER if you almost die, a working market and currency to exchange goods and services with, a global communications network on which to reach other people, etc.

  2. Re:Welcome to the world predicted in Black Mirror! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Informative

    That is also something The Orville explored in the "Majority Rule" episode.

  3. Obligatory by little1973 · · Score: 4, Informative

    The Orville: Majority Rule
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/...

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  4. Re: Some Merit by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Informative

    OK, you donâ(TM)t like the high profile ones?

    What about the NJ Port Authority âoeEthicsâ Commissioner who spent 20 minutes yelling at a pair of NJ cops, trying to name and title drop, in an attempt to get her daughters friend off the hook for driving an unregistered vehicle?

    Most governments, and the US for sure included, are rife with little corruptions and âoecourtesiesâ for the various members.

    I do not want any of these people to be able to manipulate a âoesocial pointsâ system which is inevitably going to be gamed not only by them but by various parts of society.

    We already ruin lives with prison, a social point system would just push the lowest members to the bottom and raise the highest members. Much like money does today. If you have it you tend to get more of it, and if you do not have it you tend to find it harder to get.

  5. Re:Welcome to the world predicted in Black Mirror! by houghi · · Score: 3, Informative

    Considering this and things like it have been talked about way before that show was made

    One book I know of was written in 1948.
    And another one 6000 years ago where an all seeing being would punish you if you did something naughty. That was also the first reference to "Get of my lawn'"

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  6. Trump Hater Derangement Warning by SuperKendall · · Score: 1, Informative

    China is *all about* stability. Chaos is what they fear, and rightly so. They had quite enough chaos in the last 150 years and Trump's tariffs are threatening even more.

    Wow, you are lumping together the deaths of hundreds of millions with a tariff, that didn't even get implemented.

    Truly Trump haters are bat-shit insane crazy, like the kind of crazy that literally set fire to themselves because they are so crazy. And people wonder why Trump is on such a winning streak, with people as crazily and slavishly devoted to introducing Trump in any topic on conversation, sane people shy away from you lot in droves.

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