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On This Day 25 Years Ago, the Web Became Public Domain (popularmechanics.com)

On April 30, 1993, CERN -- the European Organization for Nuclear Research -- announced that it was putting a piece of software developed by one of its researchers, Tim Berners-Lee, into the public domain. That software was a "global computer networked information system" called the World Wide Web, and CERN's decision meant that anyone, anywhere, could run a website and do anything with it. From a report: While the proto-internet dates back to the 1960s, the World Wide Web as we know it had been invented four year earlier in 1989 by CERN employee Tim Berners-Lee. The internet at that point was growing in popularity among academic circles but still had limited mainstream utility. Scientists Robert Kahn and Vinton Cerf had developed Transmission Control Protocol and Internet Protocol (TCP/IP), which allowed for easier transfer of information. But there was the fundamental problem of how to organize all that information.

In the late 80s, Berners-Lee suggested a web-like system of mangement, tied together by a series of what he called hyperlinks. In a proposal, Berners-Lee asked CERN management to "imagine, then, the references in this document all being associated with the network address of the thing to which they referred, so that while reading this document you could skip to them with a click of the mouse."

Four years later, the project was still growing. In January 1993, the first major web browser, known as MOSAIC, was released by the National Center for Supercomputing Applications at the University of Illinois Urbana-Champaign. While there was a free version of MOSAIC, for-profit software companies purchased nonexclusive licenses to sell and support it. Licensing MOSAIC at the time cost $100,000 plus $5 each for any number of copies.

87 comments

  1. I remember this day. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

    I remember spending hours trying to get Mosaic to comple under SLS linux. ahh the X driver issues, the horror of it all but after a week i managed to get it up and running.

    1. Re:I remember this day. by Train0987 · · Score: 1

      Mosaic installed and ran great under Win 3.11.

    2. Re:I remember this day. by TWX · · Score: 1

      Was gonna say, my first experience with the World Wide Web was when a social club that I was a junior member of met at a university student union for a change, and one of the members of the club that was a student in the honors college took us over to the honors college computer lab to show it to us.

      I think it was on a Windows for Workgroups 3.11 platform, but they were working on getting it going on a Sun machine that they had in the lab. CDE biatches!

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    3. Re:I remember this day. by Killall+-9+Bash · · Score: 0, Troll

      I'm old enough to remember the last few remaining Gopher sites. CERN did not invent the 'web'.

      I wish CERN would stop claiming credit for things they didn't do ('web'), and stick to claiming discovery of things that don't exist ('higgs').

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    4. Re: I remember this day. by bill_mcgonigle · · Score: 1

      Yeah, I'm old enough to remember the day when somebody could invent a superior solution, and put out a new client, and everybody would be like, "cool I'll go download that app and use that instead." Can you imagine trying to move people off of http/html today?

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    5. Re:I remember this day. by Train0987 · · Score: 1

      For all intents and purposes Mosaic DID invent the web as the world knows it today. Links, images and text on a single page = Mosaic.

    6. Re:I remember this day. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Mosaic installed and ran great under Win 3.11.

      Bullshit, nothing "ran great" under Win 3.11, because the OS was a turd.

      It didn't have real multi-tasking, and with the minimum system requirements of 4MB of RAM, the OS degraded to being useless and thrashing with just Word open.

      A girlfriend at the time had bought a new PC, and after looking at what my Linux box could do she said "OK, I need you to put that on for me". The exact same hardware, and suddenly you could do several things at once, the machine ran faster, and could do far more. Far far more.

      OS/2, Linux, a Mac, the Amiga ... pretty much everything out-performed Windows back in the day.

    7. Re:I remember this day. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      WINDOWS machines on the Internet in 1993? I didn't think Net BEUI was routable.

    8. Re:I remember this day. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      Gopher was about midway between http and ftp. The web could never have been built on top of gopher. Sure, it delivered data, and browsers could visit gopher sites by their URL, but it was too rigidly structured and too text-oriented to be successful in the long run.

      If the web is like a library, gopher was more like a book of the month club.

    9. Re:I remember this day. by Train0987 · · Score: 1

      Yes. The TCP/IP stack was added in the Windows for Workgroups multimedia extensions available as an additional install on the drivers disk for a CD drive (if I recall correctly). I vividly remember installing it on a Win 3.1 laptop and dialing-up with a 14.4 modem. Changed my life.

    10. Re:I remember this day. by Zak3056 · · Score: 2

      WINDOWS machines on the Internet in 1993? I didn't think Net BEUI was routable.

      IIRC, you needed Winsock and win32s in order to get Mosaic running on Win 3.1x, but it was certainly possible.

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    11. Re:I remember this day. by iggymanz · · Score: 1

      worked *much* better under SunOS at work and NextStep at home

    12. Re:I remember this day. by Zak3056 · · Score: 1

      I'm not going to stand up for Win 3.1x here, but suggesting that Linux was usable by J. Random User in 1993 for almost anything, much less their girlfriend insisting that they needed to install it for them has either got their dates wrong, had one heck of a girlfriend, or is making crap up. Getting Linux running in 1993 on arbitrary hardware was a royal pain in the ass if you wanted anything other than a shell.

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    13. Re:I remember this day. by k6mfw · · Score: 1

      And soon it was the Information Superhighway. Local engineering society had a speaker talking about this new thing, I have the handouts someplace (there was no PDF download). I remember many people asking how can a business make money using such a thing. I was thinking that would be cool to simply click a link instead of navigating groups on my Compuserve (I saved by Model 500 phone so I could still use the acoustic coupler).

      There was other talks about a coke machine was connected to the Information Superhighway, word got out along with its address so everyone was pinging the machine. I also found a MIT student had a camera aimed his Mr. Coffee, updated the still every few minutes.

      I have an old Mac that has Netscape 2.0 and MOSAIC! Can still run the programs but lately I haven't been able to get the dialup modem to operate correctly. I remember a few years ago I ran the Netscape, downloaded webpages really fast (except the pictures) because it doesn't recognize any of the scripting. However many webpages simply did not load at all because the scripts need to run first.

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    14. Re:I remember this day. by Train0987 · · Score: 1

      "you needed Winsock and win32s"

      Yep that was it and what I meant by TCP/IP stack in my posts.

    15. Re:I remember this day. by PPH · · Score: 1

      and dialing-up with a 14.4 modem. Changed my life.

      Correction: It will change your life. When that page finishes loading.

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    16. Re:I remember this day. by Train0987 · · Score: 1

      Without 100 tracking cookies and javascript bloat pages loaded about as fast as they do now.

      Fun story: the first image I ever downloaded from the "internet" was a 50kb b&w satellite weather image in a lynx browser on a 2600 baud internal modem. The serial mouse I had connected was on the same IRQ as the modem, however, so the modem would freeze when the mouse wasn't active but then resume when the mouse was moving. So I sat there for what seemed like an hour moving the mouse in circles until the pic downloaded completely. It was magic.

    17. Re:I remember this day. by PPH · · Score: 3, Interesting

      By 1994, Mosaic would build pretty easily on a Slackware distribution. I had that, NCSA httpd and a few other goodies installed on a Dell PC that Boeing was good enough to drop on my desk a few months before the Windows install crew could get around with their box-o-floppies. By the time they did stop by, I just told them "Never mind."

      Engineering was responsible for providing documents to the factory floor. Which was done with a convoluted combination of an index database (accessible via 3270 terminals), some notes scribbled on a piece of paper and then a manual search for a file on some server share. Along with all the possible fat-finger errors imaginable. So one day I was goofing around with httpd and managed to get a read-only link to the mainframe to select datasets applicable to a particular plane. And then format a link to the document server. Two clicks and you're done. I showed it to my boss who showed it to some factory managers. Boss came back from meeting and said, "The shop wants this web thingy in production in two weeks." So we got an actual server (Sun), built the pieces and made the schedule. Factory loved it. Boeing computer services* hated it. They figured that this kind of development could have earned them a few tens of millions of dollars and a fully staffed program for a year or two.

      *One of their IT guys asked me how I (the sole maintainer of the entire web system) managed to build the HTML index pages from a database dump to keep the web data up to date. They didn't understand dynamic pages back then.

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    18. Re:I remember this day. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      I'm not going to stand up for Win 3.1x here, but suggesting that Linux was usable by J. Random User in 1993 for almost anything, much less their girlfriend insisting that they needed to install it for them has either got their dates wrong, had one heck of a girlfriend, or is making crap up

      Or, she was a fellow CS major, wasn't your average user, and was far more interested in being able to do the things she needed to than using Windows. She bought the machine, I bit my tongue about Windows ... and she lasted about a week before she asked me to toss Windows and install Linux, to which I happily obliged.

      And, yes, the ensuing thanks-for-installing-Linux BJ was awesome.

      Getting Linux running in 1993 on arbitrary hardware was a royal pain in the ass if you wanted anything other than a shell.

      And, yet, in 1993 I set it up for no less than 5 people who asked me to do so -- all CS, math, or physics majors, plus one professor who wanted something better than what he had. Because compared to VT100 terminals connected to a VAX, or what a Windows machine could do, it offered far more.

      Every one of them said pretty much the same thing ... you run it and know how to install it, will you do it for me? Then they all kinda went "holy shit" when they had it, because it did so much more. They all had X-Windows running, SLIP to turn a single dialup connection into a useful multi-plexed connection. And even the odd crash they were happy to deal with because it was still way more robust and useful than Windows 3.11 was. Once you'd installed it a few times, you pretty much knew the drill and what to expect.

      This was in the 93-94 timeframe, because after that I graduated and moved away.

      Hell, it was only in the last 5 years my wife convinced me I could part with the huge stack of floppies I had as the install source for Slackware 0.99a, because that's what I was using.

    19. Re:I remember this day. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      But neither Mosaic nor the web was created by CERN, which is the OP's point.

    20. Re:I remember this day. by mikael · · Score: 2

      You were lucky to get PC's running at 60MHz back then. It wasn't until 1994 that there were 90MHz PC's running Doom.

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    21. Re:I remember this day. by mikael · · Score: 2

      When the first ISP's to home users became available they gave out Winsock Trumpet applications to use to read Email and Usenet, do FTP, gopher, traceroute, ping and whois

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    22. Re:I remember this day. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I remember saying "Fuck it, I'm sticking with Gopher, Usenet, FTP, IRC and Telnet."

      Who'd have known HTTP would become anything and everything?

    23. Re:I remember this day. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      In 1993, Linux wasn't even as good as MS-DOS. Desqview FTW.

    24. Re: I remember this day. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Without 100 tracking cookies and javascript bloat pages loaded about as fast as they do now.

      Fun story: the first image I ever downloaded from the "internet" was a 50kb b&w satellite weather image in a lynx browser on a 2600 baud internal modem. The serial mouse I had connected was on the same IRQ as the modem, however, so the modem would freeze when the mouse wasn't active but then resume when the mouse was moving. So I sat there for what seemed like an hour moving the mouse in circles until the pic downloaded completely. It was magic.

      There were never 2600 baud modems. Liar.

    25. Re:I remember this day. by Gojira+Shipi-Taro · · Score: 2

      Ah yes. And the code name for the WFWG TCP/IP stack was "Wolverine.

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    26. Re:I remember this day. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Well yes, but did you turbo the machine?

    27. Re:I remember this day. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Sidekick FTW, TSR hacks and all that.

    28. Re:I remember this day. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      'Web' is an abbreviation of WorldWideWeb. CERN did not invent the Web, Tim Berners-Lee and Robert Cailleau invented it by publishing the WorldWideWeb proposal. Note that it says "HyperText" right in the title. GOPHER was an Internet service, but it was not hypertext and not part of the Web.

    29. Re:I remember this day. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Lies

    30. Re:I remember this day. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      "Web" is HTTP. Gopher is not HTTP. QED.

    31. Re:I remember this day. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      For me, it was not untill 1996 that I tried the internet... and that was on a windows 95 computer.. I had a windows 95 computer at home also that I got online with a 56k modem...

      I wish I've had a computer and a modem in 1993 :-)

      My first computer was an Amiga 500 that I got in 1994!

      My parents were not exactly first movers when it came to technology... plus my mother talked on the phone all the time, so it was not much that I got to use the internet... I had a very long telephone extensioncord running from my room in the first floor down to the living room where the phone and the wallplug were...

    32. Re:I remember this day. by Tuidjy · · Score: 1

      In '93 I was at MIT, and knew people in the MIT X Consortium. This was before it left MIT to become the X Con, Inc. Motif and the Common Environment were still more than an year in the future.

      Getting X Windows to run on linux was an ordeal, even for the best X wizards in the world, even on hardware handpicked for that purpose. Installing it on off the shelf PCs, just because someone asked you? Bullshit. This was a time were an IBM PS/2 was still considered serviceable hardware, and anyone who wanted to do 'real work' was angling for a DEC 5000, SUN Spark, etc.

      And lets not forget that Windows NT came out in '93, and the people who groked linux had access to NT as well. Shit on 3.11 all you want, or laugh at the number of times you needed to restart your box while installing NT, but in '93 NT was quite serviceable. I am not quite sure when I started using gcc on NT, but in the Summer of '94 I had three separate projects for US manufacturers, and they all all wanted my programs to run on NT.

      NT was a real operating system, no ifs, no buts. As soon anyone got a taste of it, 3.11 was immediately forgotten. At the time, linux did not look that promising, at least to me and the people I knew. At the time, when asked to guess which of UNIX+RISK, linux, and Windows NT was going to rule the future, few people would have chosen linux.

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    33. Re: I remember this day. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      SPARK? RISK?

      Why do you hate the letter C?

    34. Re:I remember this day. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Shit son, I had a VIC 20 back in 1981. That 16K RAM expansion cart, cassette tape drive and 300 baud acoustic coupler modem was the shit. Now it's just shit.

    35. Re:I remember this day. by Killall+-9+Bash · · Score: 1

      You're officially retarded.

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    36. Re: I remember this day. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Maybe he just conflated 2400 baud and 9600 baud. Asshole.

  2. In other news... by TeknoHog · · Score: 1, Funny

    I've been using this wonderful technology called "computer" for a while. I recently came up with a neat application for it, and I'm going to call it "calculator" -- they might as well be synonyms, since most people will never use any other applications on it.

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    1. Re:In other news... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      yeah, pretty fucking hilarious.

  3. More's the Pity by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0, Insightful

    And the world has never been more divided.

    1. Re:More's the Pity by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Might want to read some history.

    2. Re:More's the Pity by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      You mean like TFA? No thanks, it's leaving out all sorts of details and gives tim "drm for the web is a good thing" berners-lee more credit than due.

  4. I had had no idea my company spent that much! by greenwow · · Score: 2, Interesting

    We licensed it to test our new web site that I don't think any customers even used until a couple of years later. The site was pretty crappy since I learned HTML from viewing the source on other sites, and it took me a lot of time so that was a huge waste of money.

    1. Re:I had had no idea my company spent that much! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Your company should have done what mine did. We hired an intern that was still in college. I developed using lynx, and then he would test it at school.

    2. Re:I had had no idea my company spent that much! by Train0987 · · Score: 1

      That's another thing they invented: users not giving a shit about licenses.

    3. Re:I had had no idea my company spent that much! by greenwow · · Score: 1

      LOL, that's what we did to get access to Mentor Graphics for a circuit board layout program before we switched to Tango Pro that would run on a PC. Apollo computers were very expensive at the time. They got a little cheaper after HP bought them, but by then it was basically a dead-end platform not worth investing in.

    4. Re:I had had no idea my company spent that much! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      HP has been making the same mistakes in the computer field forever.

  5. Misspelling by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Champaign instead of Champagne

    1. Re: Misspelling by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Seconded

    2. Re:Misspelling by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/University_of_Illinois_at_Urbana%E2%80%93Champaign

      Dummy.

  6. Remember when there were lots of web sites? by IGnatius+T+Foobar · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Those were the good old days, when there were lots of different web sites and if you didn't like one, you could go to another. Many of us remember "the Internet interprets censorship as damage and routes around it." Somehow we got to a point where Facebook and Google interpret the free Internet as damage and route around it.

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    1. Re:Remember when there were lots of web sites? by mikael · · Score: 1

      During 9/11 and major Internet outages across the world, we discovered that the long-distance carriers weren't using mesh networks but had consolidated their infrastructure into spanning tree networks to save money. Then customers realized that even having multiple providers wasn't enough as they had virtualized their capacity through subleasing of fibre optic conduits, bundles and even virtual networks. Facebook and Google had to deal with so much data sloshing around their pipes, they needed colocation facilities right next to the major internet switchpoints in order to handle the capacity. Blame the long distance providers.

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  7. Ah memories by al0ha · · Score: 1

    I was such a Pollyanna back then, with my Utopian vision of how people were going to use the Internet; to share and exchange new ideas and information and further human understanding; to have intellectual exchanges with people on the other side of the world I'd never met... :P

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    1. Re:Ah memories by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Me too... now, I cry.

    2. Re:Ah memories by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      The internet enables communications without a boundary of distance. Nothing more. Nothing less.

      It has ushered in a new age of science and reason - where scientists meet daily in small groups to discuss how best to fail forward. I am a better scientist because I don't have to live at the library.

      It has ushered in a new era of hobbies - where hobbyists meet and exchange ideas. I am a better gymnast that I could have ever imagined because of the reddit.com/r/bodyweightfitness community.

      It has ushered in a new era of isolationism - where I need not listen to dissent among the choir of agreement.

      It has ushered in a new era of propaganda - where the noise of vast communications makes everything subject to criticism and distrust.

      It has ushered in a new era of hate - where you can always find a group that hates in your flavor.

      It connects people. Nothing more. Nothing less.

    3. Re:Ah memories by TWX · · Score: 2

      I still remember Eternal September when Usenet as it had been basically died. It certainly wasn't perfect but it was a perfect beacon of light compared to the cesspool that it became.

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    4. Re:Ah memories by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      While all true, I don't think many of us were a realist back then. We thought it would be used to spread [truthful] knowledge, and bring education levels up first nationally, then globally. A beginning of an enlightened human race.

      I've talked to many who thought this, and not many who foresaw the dark-side. [Yes, I know the Internet is just a representation of happens in real life. But I foolishly thought higher education levels would bring about [good] changes to real life. Or maybe even more foolishly thought that everyone wanted to be more educated.]

    5. Re:Ah memories by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I still remember Eternal September when Usenet as it had been basically died

      And not just usenet. The entire original internet culture died.

      So much of the bullshit that is widely accepted now without consideration would not have been tolerated in the early days.

    6. Re:Ah memories by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      And just to clarify, I didn't think the Internet would do this, I thought humans would use the Internet to do this. I failed to see that many humans just want to follow, and don't want to be independent learners. I guess it's just easier?

    7. Re:Ah memories by N!k0N · · Score: 2

      [...] with my Utopian vision of how people were going to use the Internet; to share and exchange new ideas and information and further human understanding [...]P

      br/ And then you stumbled on your first goatse link.

    8. Re:Ah memories by PPH · · Score: 1

      Nope. Even then, it was pretty clear that it's primary application would be to replace teletype ASCII porn.

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  8. Fight for the internet/web’s future. by xack · · Score: 1

    Imagine a headline saying “The 25th anniversary of the end of net neutrality”?

  9. The Irony by Martin+S. · · Score: 2

    The irony is this is being reported by on a paywalled site that doesn't work when using a host file to block ads.

  10. It's fine giving credit for the technology, but by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    "Invented the internet" is nonsense. TCP/IP wasn't the only (or first) transport protocol, HTML wasn't the only document language, and MOSAIC wasn't even the first HTML browser, much less the first browser. Without these technologies the web would have been worse, for that they deserve credit, but it would still exist. Al Gore actually had a much better claim here - the DARPA funding was critical in the beginning.

    1. Re:It's fine giving credit for the technology, but by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Anyone who worked in networking had one of these posters on their cubicle walls:

      https://i.pinimg.com/originals...

  11. There was a lot of drinking, but... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    MOSAIC was written at the University of Illinois at Champaign-Urbana, not Champagne. Generally UIUC students had cheaper tastes and drank more Budweiser and Miller Lite...

  12. Impediment was the domain name by Solandri · · Score: 3, Insightful

    Back then domain names were $100 for 2 years. Hosting was an additional $10/mo or so, if you weren't fortunate enough to be at a school or work someplace which let you set up your own web server (I had one for myself, and another for my dog - IPv4 addresses were plentiful back then too).

    Those costs are what drove people to "free" web services like GeoCities, MySpace, and eventually Facebook. You can justify the cost to set up your own domain and website if it's going to be a business venture or a major part of your online profile. But for the vast majority of people, it wasn't worth it. Which is what allowed the personal-info-harvesting vultures to swoop in and take over the web as we know it today. In some ways I think it was actually better before the web, when simply having an account on an Internet service automatically gave you a finger profile you could fill out however you wanted at no additional cost.

    Nowadays most ISPs also give you some free web space (and an email address) with your account. But it's too little, too late.

    1. Re:Impediment was the domain name by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      My friend and I got a type C subnet for $75 a year in 1994. It got downgraded to a single IP address about 10 years ago.

    2. Re:Impediment was the domain name by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      My early 1990s memories are that my ISP provided free hosting, though on their domain (e.g. http://example.com/~username) and also email and even Usenet! Geocities is one of those things that never made sense to me, not even as a cheapskate. My 1994 ISP even let me do CGI on my web pages, though I didn't take advantage of it except as a toy.

      It's the modern ISP which doesn't offer that, except maybe email. No free hosting. Definitely no free Usenet!

      MySpace wasn't about cheaper hosting; it was a deliberate effort on the part of the users, to centralize and have all of "us" (whoever that is) connected not just by hyperlinks, but by semantics within the website itself.

      We probably should have tried harder to get by with hyperlinks.

    3. Re:Impediment was the domain name by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I was in college at Cornell at the time and ran an HTTP server with some dinky little web pages on the PC in my room. Every dorm room had a jack with its own discreet Internet-facing static IP address, and it was inconceivable that IPv4 addresses would ever run dry. A friend of mine who was running a rogue subnet on his floor in the dorm with Cat5 strung between various rooms for playing various networked games was the first person I knew who had set up his own NAT server.

    4. Re:Impediment was the domain name by mikael · · Score: 1

      Not even email - that gets outsourced to Microsoft Webmail.

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    5. Re:Impediment was the domain name by bheerssen · · Score: 1

      In many ways, things are even more accessible now. I know that idea goes against the zeitgeist, but hear me out. I purchased my domain name from gandi.net for a reasonable sum (in the tens of dollars), and I run my personal site from my home cable connection (Comcast). I do this by using afraid.org for dynamic DNS (free) so that I don't have to pay for a business class connection with a static IP. That's fine, because I'm running a personal site, not a business. Furthermore, all of the software I use is free and open source. I don't pay for any of it. The hardware I run it on is cheap and easily available. My server is an old desktop running a LAMP stack. Yeah, it's not enterprise quality by a long shot, but you know what? I have a real -- however minuscule -- presence on the internet for not a lot of scratch.

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  13. Go back 25 years and make it not happen by Rick+Schumann · · Score: 2

    What was a great idea has been perverted into something foul and cancerous. Get in your time machine and take it back. Dialup BBSs were bad enough, but at least they were local.

    1. Re:Go back 25 years and make it not happen by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      The web was something that could never work outside of the CERN labs.

      THis should be an official day of mourning.

    2. Re:Go back 25 years and make it not happen by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      What about Fidonet?

  14. Facebook / Twitter: Ego Strokes for Regular Folks by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

    Back in the late 90s people would take their interests or hobbies put them on a website and then promptly add feel-good widgets like web counters and guestbooks to boost their egos a bit, feel like they had an audience rather than just throwing information into the void.

    That was the seed of social media right there. Web counters evolved into web rings, communities, user scores and eventually huge public forums like Twitter and Facebook. A users own ego is actively played by these systems to encourage more usage, more content. The more activity on those sites the more people were interested, the whole "fear of missing out" deal.

    Now we have these behemoth sites that play the human ego like a fiddle, vast reams of junk generated every second, and people from all walks of life with either an overinflated sense of self worth or, low self esteem (or paradoxically both,) because of some arbitrary number.

    The internet has connected us in ways we couldn't have predicted 50 years ago, but the web has irreversibly changed our social structures. Whether it's for the better or worse I don't know...

  15. Quick trip back in time by Trailer+Trash · · Score: 4, Interesting

    I was working at Indiana University at the time. In the fall of 1993 I found the world wide web. I got xmosaic working on my unix desktop and also installed NCSA httpd. I downloaded the HTML specification and got to work implementing web pages. At the time, I had pages that took 30 seconds to generate.

    Our department (basically IT for the university) was smack dab in the middle of moving our information services from the VAX/VMS cluster to the newfangled gopher service.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/...

    Along with a few other folks I did a "stop the presses" and convinced them to abandon that project and go straight to the WWW. It took a lot of convincing since they were so invested in getting gopher up and running. Plus, the text-only information was a pretty easy direct-map to gopher.

    The browsers were really primitive at the time. No stylesheets, but we had inline images and could set background colors.
    Not only that, the development was mainly done on the X11 platform. The Windows and Mac browsers were always lagging in features.

    Fill-out forms were a new thing, and the sub ordering application was the standard demonstration for that. Before fill-out forms, there was the "isindex" tag which would show a search box, the contents of which would be added as the "query" part of the url when you hit enter.

    There were no cookies and thus no real way to keep state. When I quit the university, we were working on a way to store session information in files on the back end. The idea was basically what PHP was doing back around 1999 - give the user an MD5 hash or something that was used as the query portion of the url. Every url had to go through CGI, and the script would look up the file containing the session information and read it in, and possibly write it out. We wanted to move some of the administrative actions - such as students setting up accounts - to the web. Since fill-out forms weren't really available on the Mac and Windows platforms, we were looking at using "isindex" to get all information to the backend.

    It's amazing how far we've come in 25 years. I started doing heavy web development in 1999 and even then it was amazing how far it had advanced.

  16. Called a "hyperlink" by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I love these stories about old tech, that references something that at the time was new and exciting but of course today is old hat; it kind of emphasizes how much things have changed and entered into common parlance.

    "In the late 80s, Berners-Lee suggested a web-like system of mangement, tied together by a series of what he called hyperlinks."

    Dr. Evil "...which was in essence a sophisticated heat beam which we called a (uses air quotes) LASER."

  17. I hope that Berners-lee reads this trash by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

    Seriously, even back then, Berners-lee will tell you that WWW was NOT a 1 man project.
    Hypertext came from a number of people such as Bush, and Nelson, along with Apple.
    HTML was simply an implementation of IBM's GML.
    Cern httpd was a straight forward implementation of FTP (thank god for that).

    Probably the one thing that Berners-lee's group really did was put all of this together and then open-sourced it
    while companies were getting pieces/parts, but then trying to figure out how to control and profit from them.

  18. Who's this "Tim" person? It was Al Gore! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Some random fella named "Tim" didn't make the World Wide Web!!! Al Gore created the Internet and the World Wide Web. We all know that.

    Yup, Al Gore, the guy who pumps megatonnes of Carbon into the atmosphere and releases floods to water his lawn while telling all the rest of us to reduce our carbon footprint. You see, it's ok for HIM to "Do as I say" instead of "Do as I do" because he buys carbon offsets that go right back into his pocket. So it's all good.

    Wait, what were we talking about?

  19. "What he called" was coined long before. by Ungrounded+Lightning · · Score: 2

    In the late 80s, Berners-Lee suggested a web-like system of mangement, tied together by a series of what he called hyperlinks.

    Which term, along with "Hypertext", several others, and much of the vision of a web of interconnected online documents, had been coined and promoted by Ted Nelson, many years before. See the first edition of Computer Lib/Dream Machines" (1974), for an early treatment of the ideas, and _Literary Machines_ for a more developed one.

    His (ill-fated) Project Xanadu was, by that time, funded and working round-the-clock to try to put together a world electronic library - with substantially more functionality (including an attempt to provide an acceptable emulation of or substitute for everything you can do with paper publications), when Tim's work hit the net and created the World Wide Web.

    Xanadu deviated from the WWW design in a number of ways, including:
      - "fine-grained links" (where a link end points to a particular range of a target, rather than a whole page or a point within it {unless you want that to be the target}),
      - bi-directional links (you can inquire what links are inbound to where you are reading and follow them backward)
      - avoidance of the "Library of Alexandra" / broken link problem by distributed database techniques.
    and I could go on.

    But they had bitten off a BIG problem, and the WWW, with its non-proprietary servers filled an immediate need with an immediately usable solution.

    --
    Bantam Dominique roosters crow a four-note song. Once you've heard it as "Happy BIRTHday" you can't NOT hear it that way
  20. Re:Facebook / Twitter: Ego Strokes for Regular Fol by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    It's worse. I'm now disconnecting from the Internet. I'm sick to death of having headhunters trying to me down and jam my application into companies that just want to move their brightest graduates into management or some other field that I absolutely want to stay away from.

  21. Corrected link. by Ungrounded+Lightning · · Score: 1

    Oops. Pointed the link to the search, not the document.

    See the first edition of _Computer Lib/Dream Machines"_ (1974), for an early treatment of the ideas, and _Literary Machines_ for a more developed one.

    (Note that the printed version of the book was two half-books, like an Ace Double, which you flipped over to read one vs. the other. In the above PDF link you read the _Dream Machines_ half - which is where you find the Hypertext stuff - by starting at the first page and flipping pages forward, the _Computer Lib_ half - which is mostly about what-it-is-a-computer - by starting at the last page and flipping pages backward.)

    --
    Bantam Dominique roosters crow a four-note song. Once you've heard it as "Happy BIRTHday" you can't NOT hear it that way
  22. Yup I remember the good ol days by notbob · · Score: 1

    It was so much better back then, so much less absolute crap.

    The internet was filled with just information and mostly intelligent people, the masses had no fucking clue.

    It's been a wild ride seeing the internet develop, if only we could take modern hardware / network speed back then to the better content / contributors

  23. My memories by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I used Trumpet.

    BLINK tag sucked.